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Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
July 24 2010 21:50 GMT
#1981
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 24 2010 21:52 GMT
#1982
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)

@Bolded section. How would that work? Day 2 there were 3 hits.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:52 GMT
#1983
On July 25 2010 06:50 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



lol wut?

How on earth do you figure that? The past three days must have been hilarious for them to watch. We have more chickens with their heads cut off and we're trying to lynch them all.

I'm trying to figure out the best possible way to go about this. Lynching citizen vs. SR seems to be a double-edged sword. One of them is the hatter, the other is a mafia. If we hit a mafia then we have gotten that much closer to winning, but what do we gain? A guaranteed hatter that we will need to baby for the rest of the game...

I'm trying to think of the future here. If Citizen is the hatter then he is probably going to be a (juicy) suicide target. That means that his two bombs (He threw two right?) will go off. He hasn't said who he has them on, so we as a town can't tell him where they should move.

If SR is the hatter then we only have to worry about moving one bomb to a "mafia." This actually (sorta) secures SR and the mafia players safety as it would require them to use a night kill or suicide bomb, which there is less incentive imo.

Assuming SR is legit I'll support him. There's less risk in keeping him alive, assuming citi.zen laid two bombs, and assuming he's the hatter.

And if the person we lynch is the hatter the next person is on the stands tomorrow anyway.

vote: citi.zen
vote: double lynch


It won't matter if the next person is on the stands if one of them is suicide bomber, they'd just blow up tonight and laugh at us.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:53 GMT
#1984
On July 25 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)

@Bolded section. How would that work? Day 2 there were 3 hits.


If they are both red, they made up the hit
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 24 2010 21:53 GMT
#1985
On July 25 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)

@Bolded section. How would that work? Day 2 there were 3 hits.


We don't know there were three; BC said he took the 3rd hit and we have to take his word for it.

I dont think the 2 hatter thing is too likely i just wanted to bring it up since it's important to approach the problem from all angles
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:53 GMT
#1986
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 24 2010 21:54 GMT
#1987
On July 25 2010 06:52 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:50 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



lol wut?

How on earth do you figure that? The past three days must have been hilarious for them to watch. We have more chickens with their heads cut off and we're trying to lynch them all.

I'm trying to figure out the best possible way to go about this. Lynching citizen vs. SR seems to be a double-edged sword. One of them is the hatter, the other is a mafia. If we hit a mafia then we have gotten that much closer to winning, but what do we gain? A guaranteed hatter that we will need to baby for the rest of the game...

I'm trying to think of the future here. If Citizen is the hatter then he is probably going to be a (juicy) suicide target. That means that his two bombs (He threw two right?) will go off. He hasn't said who he has them on, so we as a town can't tell him where they should move.

If SR is the hatter then we only have to worry about moving one bomb to a "mafia." This actually (sorta) secures SR and the mafia players safety as it would require them to use a night kill or suicide bomb, which there is less incentive imo.

Assuming SR is legit I'll support him. There's less risk in keeping him alive, assuming citi.zen laid two bombs, and assuming he's the hatter.

And if the person we lynch is the hatter the next person is on the stands tomorrow anyway.

vote: citi.zen
vote: double lynch


It won't matter if the next person is on the stands if one of them is suicide bomber, they'd just blow up tonight and laugh at us.


And people ask my why I vote for double lynch.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 24 2010 21:56 GMT
#1988
Ok, so its been close to two hours since citizens last post. Its nearing (if i've counted properly) 3 hours till end of day and the guy has literally vanished. He has ignored relevant posts by mulitple players that demand his attention.
He has pushed that people vote then vanished off the face of the earth.
In the face of what he has proposed, why would he be inactive? He has to prove his plan is completely sound here, and what do I see, an inactive person trying to slide under the radar and stay "trusted" to garnish DT information be it their roles, or just who they have confirmed.

He also has people who have been mostly inactive the majority of the game coming forth to defend him, where were they? they are all players who have played in multiple games and should see the same issues with his plan that Myself and others have. Instead they are blind trusting? That isn't something someone with experience would just do this early in the game.

Until he really comes out to defend himself (not pointing fingers at others) but seriously address' the issues so far posted the last few pages, he is looking very scum

## vote citizen
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
July 24 2010 21:57 GMT
#1989
On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 24 2010 22:00 GMT
#1990
everyone please take notice of this lynch vote

a huge testament of who's scum and who's not. With multiple inner circles formed the mafia are not going to have much room to spread out votes
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 24 2010 22:02 GMT
#1991
On July 25 2010 06:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok, so its been close to two hours since citizens last post. Its nearing (if i've counted properly) 3 hours till end of day and the guy has literally vanished. He has ignored relevant posts by mulitple players that demand his attention.
He has pushed that people vote then vanished off the face of the earth.
In the face of what he has proposed, why would he be inactive? He has to prove his plan is completely sound here, and what do I see, an inactive person trying to slide under the radar and stay "trusted" to garnish DT information be it their roles, or just who they have confirmed.

He also has people who have been mostly inactive the majority of the game coming forth to defend him, where were they? they are all players who have played in multiple games and should see the same issues with his plan that Myself and others have. Instead they are blind trusting? That isn't something someone with experience would just do this early in the game.

Until he really comes out to defend himself (not pointing fingers at others) but seriously address' the issues so far posted the last few pages, he is looking very scum

## vote citizen


This sums up my feelings pretty well. Add to this that he has barely responded during a period when day's about to end, his plan is up to debate, and a counter claim.

There have been decent arguments against his plan, yet many times he only focuses on the weak one, thus "negating all of them." Sometimes he doesn't respond at all.

To those people who voted south originally so then he could "post more" it's time to change that. Time to make a decision. Thus I
##Unvote
##Vote Cit.zen


Zeks, I still got my eye on you >.<
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:06 GMT
#1992
On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.


What I was implying was a mafia partnership going on and honestly if there really is only one Mad Hatter. It's either me or him. FOS is on both of us. I was merely FOSing Zeks as well. Now I could ask why doesn't Citizen give reasons to trust him but I'll humour you here. There are no real reasons why you should trust anybody as that is an unreasonable question. All you can do in mafia is show why the other person is guilty. It's like court without any evidence for the defense to use. I'm trustworthy because everything I've said so far is consistent though. I think it's best really to wait for citizen to come on to say something because so far he's been much too quiet. I know how that is though.. might be busy at the moment.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:08 GMT
#1993
Let's wait t'ill he gets on and let the accusations come on to me? I've deflected Zek's to a point where it seems possible that he's in cahoots with citizen. No one has really raised a case against me yet except for inactivity. which I've explained already.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 24 2010 22:15 GMT
#1994
You know on the other hand, if citizen is red this play doesn't make a lot of sense either, I mean mafia are at an advantage and a gambit like this is really risky and i'm not sure why he would do that instead of just playing it safe.

Ugh, this is confusing.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 24 2010 22:16 GMT
#1995
On July 25 2010 07:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
You know on the other hand, if citizen is red this play doesn't make a lot of sense either, I mean mafia are at an advantage and a gambit like this is really risky and i'm not sure why he would do that instead of just playing it safe.

Ugh, this is confusing.


disorganize the town, potentially bag two dts, and cause a mess much like is happening. I am pretty sure he has a history of this sort of play from previous games. I could be wrong on the last bit, but I don't think I am.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 24 2010 22:18 GMT
#1996
On July 25 2010 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Thanks for appearing after I went to sleep, its nice to know I get to wake up to stuff like this.
Now, if you read the bolded text you can easily see a mistake in your reasoning. In the case of multiple DT mouths talking to citizen, rather than him clear his legimacy, your having him instant 100% cleared and his dt clears the others....If he is red, you just handed him the entire dt list, good job. Best plan so far. IF he is legit, we have no way of proving this. Regardless, your plan requires 100% trust pretty well in him.

As for why I haven't analyzed misder? So what? I opted to snag people I saw obviously coasting/acting scummy. You know, rather than fingering me for who I didn't analyze, maybe you should spend time analyzing said person. Hell if you think you believe they are scum, maybe you should give a reason why other than "I think"

Trying to put suspicion on me for who I didn't analyze is like saying "You contributed, but because your scum list and mine don't overlap 100% you must be red" instead of contributing yourself.



¨
Citi.zen was cleared if no other claimed mad hatter. If he is clear then his DT should be clear if it is as he says? Now the situation is different.

Misder was more of an observation. Im not so sure you are mafia now. Since I get to choose between citi.zen and Southrawrea south is far more likely and that would prove you right,

Will you believe in citi.zen if South turns out red?


On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote:
Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially.


Sure play the newbie card. What you really is trying to do here is make citi tell where he has his bombs right?


On July 25 2010 05:48 SouthRawrea wrote:


Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing.

Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead.


WTF!! This is so mafia why should he tell where he placed his bombs. Only mafia has the need to know if the bombs are placed on them or not. You practicly told us you are mafia.

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##vote southrawrea
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 24 2010 22:19 GMT
#1997
First, no one role claim to anybody until we get this figured out.

Seems like some blues have been claiming to people that aren't confirmed. Don't do this next game, please. 1. You can get killed. 2. You can get used. 3. You can tell someone innocent but they leak to a red. And then you get killed and we lynch the innocent.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 24 2010 22:22 GMT
#1998
Keeping vote on south because of the sketchy nature of his claim, and if the choice is between him and citi.zen, I definitely choose him.

Amber and tree.hugger bear watching - people have been kinda suspecting them all game, and now they're trying to prevent an overwhelming bandwagon on South...

If south flips MH, citi.zen dies. If South flips red, we can trust citi. If South flips anything else... he's an idiot.
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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:22 GMT
#1999
Just as extra confirmation that he is the Hatter. If he says something stupid that would make no sense like placing a bomb on someone that is most likely a blue carelessly then I get him for the scumslip obviously.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 24 2010 22:24 GMT
#2000
On July 25 2010 07:18 lakrismamma wrote:
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On July 25 2010 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Thanks for appearing after I went to sleep, its nice to know I get to wake up to stuff like this.
Now, if you read the bolded text you can easily see a mistake in your reasoning. In the case of multiple DT mouths talking to citizen, rather than him clear his legimacy, your having him instant 100% cleared and his dt clears the others....If he is red, you just handed him the entire dt list, good job. Best plan so far. IF he is legit, we have no way of proving this. Regardless, your plan requires 100% trust pretty well in him.

As for why I haven't analyzed misder? So what? I opted to snag people I saw obviously coasting/acting scummy. You know, rather than fingering me for who I didn't analyze, maybe you should spend time analyzing said person. Hell if you think you believe they are scum, maybe you should give a reason why other than "I think"

Trying to put suspicion on me for who I didn't analyze is like saying "You contributed, but because your scum list and mine don't overlap 100% you must be red" instead of contributing yourself.



¨
Citi.zen was cleared if no other claimed mad hatter. If he is clear then his DT should be clear if it is as he says? Now the situation is different.

Misder was more of an observation. Im not so sure you are mafia now. Since I get to choose between citi.zen and Southrawrea south is far more likely and that would prove you right,

Will you believe in citi.zen if South turns out red?


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On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote:
Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially.


Sure play the newbie card. What you really is trying to do here is make citi tell where he has his bombs right?


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On July 25 2010 05:48 SouthRawrea wrote:


Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing.

Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead.


WTF!! This is so mafia why should he tell where he placed his bombs. Only mafia has the need to know if the bombs are placed on them or not. You practicly told us you are mafia.

##unvote
##vote southrawrea


see bolded part. He wasn't actually cleared with no counterclaim for a reason I listed earlier which was this

IF you were the mad hatter and you saw someone claim your role, You know instantly he's most likely red. You then wait a day, move your bomb to him get lynched following day (confirms both of you). Instead, he said "if no one claims im legit." He did however get a claim, regardless, his point was moot regardless.

I most likely wont trust citizen until he proves to be trustworthy. He is far too inactive at this point for the plan he proposed. He has legimate concerns raised against him, a counter claim, etc....
Where is he? Nowhere to be found, instead people who have been semi inactive all game have decided to vouch for him. It comes of as extremely suspicious.

Also, it has no matter where he placed his bombs. If he has them on reds or not. A dt circle is still confirmed, and as much as dead townies suck to have, they do lower the dt pool of checked targets finding reds faster. Anyone who flips red dies, then its a hunt for the gf. If you find three of one blue role, boom you found him, etc...

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