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ok, I was thinking (dangerous I know), and I think I found a big problem with the 3 pick plan.
We are forecasting our move. If I was mafia I would love that, because the only way it would work is if one of the three was the day 1 pick. Worse yet, we wouldn't know which it was till day 3. so we are trading 3 nights of RB for at most 1 mafia. As the GF, I know that I can recruit anyone besides those 3 players for the next 3 nights and they definitely won't be role blocked. We are kind of saying, hey GF these three players you can't recruit, but feel free to grab anyone else.
I might be missing something, but it just seems to useful for the mafia to know that far in advance who we are after.
With the first plan we are telegraphing our move, but only 1 day in advance and we know the result the next day. They won't know who our day 2 pick is going to be so they can't be certain it isn't one of the 2 mafia members they chose.
sorry, thought of this as I went for my day[9] snack and decided to post it to see if I was off track on this.
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On July 03 2010 11:17 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 11:07 L wrote:On July 03 2010 11:04 youngminii wrote:
Mafia doesn't necessarily control day 3's lynch. The plan isn't to put absolute faith in those that are roleblocked, the plan is to check to see if they're scum. If they're not, they're put back in with the rest of us where they may or may not be scum. If they are, it gives us a kill. This is an interesting post. Please elaborate. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, you're suggesting that if we go on with the plan, mafia will control day 3's lynch. The main purpose of the plan is to find people aligned with mafia. The plan is not meant to prove the innocence of anyone. So if we use the plan and we fail to find anyone aligned with mafia, then in the worst case scenario.. On day 3, there will be 11 pro-town and 5 anti-town. 9 to lynch. They wouldn't necessarily 'control' the vote as they would need 4 pro-town to vote with scum. To make things worse for scum, the traitor wouldn't know who's who and the mafia themselves don't know who the GF is. It doesn't seem that hopeless for town.
They don't necessarily 'control' the vote until they hit their win condition of outnumbering the plan. They do, however, have the option of faking being RB'd to push the town into a very easy lynch on someone who isn't mafia on day 3, which is the same as controlling the lynch.
No one has ever said that we need to trust the person who's been roleblocked if mafia hits go through, so I have no idea why you're even mentioning that. Without a jailer to protect from recruitment, the roleblocked player is a fantastic recruit target.
As for the potential 'flaw' in the plan, I don't see why you assume we're sitting on the same group of 3 for 3 days? As stated above, we aren't proving innocence with our roleblocks, so unless mafia miss a hit, there's really no reason to not draw up a new 3 man list each day.
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Lol, Lufia 2, I approve.
So I got stuck at immigration lines for over an hour today because I was missing one sheet of paper that ended up not even being necessary. Go figure.
I'm in Vancouver now :D
Also, ElyAs dead, claimed townie - d'oh. Shit. At the same time, especially in this setup, day 1 lynch is such a crapshoot, better to lynch a nonactive than someone who will contribute later.
Also, whats the details on Browney?
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Speaking of BrowneY, I'm looking for replacements (2). If a replacement gets back to me within 24 hours, I'll switch him in for BrowneY. If not, I'll remove BrowneY from the game (no modkill) and give his role to a random vanilla townie. Need a replacement for someone else as well, so anyone interested, let me know!
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You just told us he has a power role during the phase where mafia kill and recruit people.
What the fuck.
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On July 03 2010 11:57 L wrote:
You just told us he has a power role during the phase where mafia kill and recruit people.
What the fuck.
His "role" could easily be townie. You read it as "blue" ^_^.
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On July 03 2010 11:59 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 11:57 L wrote:
You just told us he has a power role during the phase where mafia kill and recruit people.
What the fuck. His "role" could easily be townie. You read it as "blue" ^_^.
nah the way you worded it definitely made it look like more than townie
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I think an interesting aspect of this will be trying to tell the difference between the red people who can share information and the town people that can share information outside the thread.
Because it'd be just swell for them if we mislynch and hit 1 of the lovers and kill 2 for the mob for free.
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lets hope that both lovers are mafia when they go down 
Headed to be night all, catch up 2morrow.
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Oh snap lynch isnt up yet? can i change my vote, id like to give elyas another shot
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Nah, Darth is just procrastinating
why do you want to save him? I thought he wanted out of the game
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On July 03 2010 11:54 DarthThienAn wrote:
Speaking of BrowneY, I'm looking for replacements (2). If a replacement gets back to me within 24 hours, I'll switch him in for BrowneY. If not, I'll remove BrowneY from the game (no modkill) and give his role to a random vanilla townie. Need a replacement for someone else as well, so anyone interested, let me know!
ROFL, so the GF could now recruit browny in all confidence, knowing he is blue. Does replacing him would just force us to burn through a lynch? Good stuff...
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On July 03 2010 11:36 L wrote:s for the potential 'flaw' in the plan, I don't see why you assume we're sitting on the same group of 3 for 3 days? As stated above, we aren't proving innocence with our roleblocks, so unless mafia miss a hit, there's really no reason to not draw up a new 3 man list each day.
That doesn't change the fact that we'll be forced into that do or die position in D3 as you stated. Even if we draw up a new 3 man list it won't change anything. We won't be able to lynch any of the 3 unless the RB steps up, which will be on D3 if we use your plan.
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On July 03 2010 11:36 L wrote:
They don't necessarily 'control' the vote until they hit their win condition of outnumbering the plan. They do, however, have the option of faking being RB'd to push the town into a very easy lynch on someone who isn't mafia on day 3, which is the same as controlling the lynch.
Oh and yeah I must've misunderstood this part. This was one of my arguments against Korynne earlier when she was suggesting the plan.
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oh if you really can't find a replacement and are in dire need I'll help out. Haven't read too much into the rule set to know what I'm getting myself into since I generally hate cult games ^_^
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Alright so time for some intoxicted posting I guess.
Chez list is solid for GF suspicion IMO. Even though im on it the only thing id do different is not make theat one list I mad earlier. Too much work rofl, id actually have to think as GF. Maybe I should claim blue to force a hit on myself. Eat those mindgames you fukin scummers. Put my vote on gilaboy since i havent reallly ever seen him play too well in the past games, but who knows.
I dont like makin plans in front of scum unless its solid enough to disregard what theyll do, or rely on blues so much that they cant really prepare for it. But I guess thats what makes it a plan, so im down for it as long as it follows those basics. Ugh im too tired to post more and i dont even think id have more in my head if i was sober...
So fuck it happy birthday town here is some useless content. Glad DarthfaggitEn isnt gonna bash my post about being useless FAGGOT. Bet he made up GF role to fuck with us and he'll just pop mafias left and right.
Dick move. And to those reading this who are traitor, go modkill yourself please we hate oy already bitch. gtfo.
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I seriously hope Browney wasn't our DT though.
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Forget everything I said, ace is mafia
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