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Ace
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lakrismamma
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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bumatlarge
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L
Canada4732 Posts
I'll suggest that if you want to take a shit on my plan, develop one that doesn't let mafia completely control how we proceed. I'd rather not give them a huge chunk of exploitable material to work with, but lakris would disagree. On the plus side, he's succinct. Sleep time. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On July 03 2010 14:00 bumatlarge wrote: Flamewheel smurf browney i mafia also. Nah my smurfs are not in this game. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On July 03 2010 15:07 BrownBear wrote: Guys flamewheel is totally mafia we should lynch him mmkay lynch him and bum for starting all this spam in the thread | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 03 2010 12:46 DCLXVI wrote: Nah, Darth is just procrastinating why do you want to save him? I thought he wanted out of the game BrowneY? He never got access to the forum, I don't think. And then he hasn't been responding to my since the first (real) day so... Why is everyone assuming he's blue? I said nothing to suggest that. 'Townie' is a role too, you know. You guys will have to lynch flamewheel. My lightning is only level 1 =X. Confirming AFJ's post as well. | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
On July 03 2010 14:00 L wrote: On the plus side, he's succinct. Please don't use words that I have to google. Its condescending On a serious note maybe I will concider your plan again tomorrow. Its 10 am here and I have worked all night. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.megoville.com/images/hulk/cochisecountygallows011704.jpg) Night 1: Music: + Show Spoiler + I promise to stop with the Death Note after this ^_^. The day began normally. Just an ordinary day, like any other. The sun was out; the weather wasn’t bad – could have been a little warmer, but there’s no use complaining about something you can’t change. ElyAs decided it was nice enough to walk to work that day. He grabbed his hat, slung his suit jacket over his shoulder, and greeted the morning with a smile. Take care… He put in his earphones, threw his iPod on shuffle, and started walking toward work. God is watching you… For the first few minutes, he didn’t notice anything. Well, to be precise, he didn’t really pay attention to anything. He was a daydreamer. He didn’t usually find time to pay attention to the rest of the world. In the dark streets of the night, Please hold his hand. Besides, America was odd to him – he was from Europe – but alas, America was where the industry was. And he needed the experience if he was going to be able to feed his family, back in France. Even if I’m on my own far away, He will always find me. But as he drew near his workplace, he noticed the eyes around him. It seemed like everyone was looking at him. Was there something on his face? He hadn’t checked carefully in the mirror that morning. But no… there were a lot more people than usual, too. How odd. Even if I’m on my own far away, He will always find me. As ElyAs turned the corner to his workplace, he couldn’t help but notice that the building was completely surrounded by people. People he… knew? “Hmm…” He thought to himself, “What’s everyone doing here? BrownBear, AcrossFiveJulys, Korynne, bumatlarge, Divinek, Abenson, and youngminii.. was there a party that no one told me about?” Little did he know. He tells me all I know, As he walked forward happily to greet his old friends, he noticed that their expressions weren’t so happy. “Hey guys, what’s wrong?” They all continued staring at him. One of them spoke up, “I can’t believe you, ElyAs. How could you do this to us?” “What did I do?” And even if I forget, He tells me time and time again. But the town showed no mercy. They had made their decision. There was no going back. They grabbed ElyAs by the arms, by the legs, by the head, by his shirt – whatever they could reach, they grabbed, and nearly killed him in the process. As he screamed for his life, begging them to let him down, screaming at the top of his lungs, “I’M INNOCENT, I’M INNOCENT I TELL YOU!” The town fell deaf to his pleas for mercy. Moments later, it was done. No use in complaining about something you can't change. But what will I do once I’ve learned everything? The town looked to the sky, for some sign of God’s favor, or perhaps his anger. But alas, there was nothing but the clouds that had been there before, and a slightly colder chill than ElyAs had felt earlier. ElyAs is now dead It is now Night 1. Get your actions in to me before 10PM EDT tomorrow (11 KST I believe), etc. etc. Disclaimer: It’s just a story. Took the names from the voters. ElyAs could have been mafia for all I care. I think everyone I write about will either be written about as a townsperson, or written about along the lines of what I think the thread thinks. ElyAs, feel free to make an “official” Death Post if you want. Pre-death Death Posts are completely legal, though they don’t actually count for Death Posts =]. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
May the gracious God look past your inactive sins and welcome you into his kingdom. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
It's night now... Can we speak? | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On July 03 2010 15:29 Divinek wrote: lynch him and bum for starting all this spam in the thread no u | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
Spam? I'm good at that | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Yeah you are. Lawl I have no clue what's going on right now. I should attempt to read this thread. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
L's plan + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2010 13:56 L wrote: Okay, so there's a few things I noted going through this that I figured some people kinda didn't realize while doing their analysis. First off is this little tidbit from the rules post: Starting means that number isn't going to stay at 1. If we fuck up our first few lynches and vig hits, we're going to hit a wall where mafia KP is just going to be too high to recover from. Between the recruitment, mafia kills and daily lynch, mafia have the ability to drop 3+ town votes per day. Assuming they play perfectly, mafia kill 2 people per day via lynch and night hit and gain 1 voting power per day. More dangerously, i'd assume that mafia gain a kp, either at 3 or 4 members. If 3 is kp=2, which we'll find out tomorrow, its possible that they move to kp=3 if they have a full 5 members. 5 members, however, would be a situation in which town has missed 4 subsequent lynches. 3 missed lynches is generally a loss condition in F11, so this isn't really that far off. This means that by day 3, there are going to be 16 players alive, 4 of them mafia, 12 town. The day 4, we hit 5/8-9. At this point, unless we have hatters, vig and double lynches available and used properly, we lose unless we kill the godfather. This is assuming that the town kp isn't improperly placed, and that we don't double lynch inaccurately. This means we need to figure out who the GF is by day 4 or we're boned, put simply, or hit goons one after another. Given this, if we have shitty leads on day 3, we might want to consider claims given the information we have, but not before then. Why not before then? Well, its pretty simple: We can't let our DT(s) get recruited or killed early because they're the only non destructive way we have of identifying the GF. Given the shitshow of a last game, I'd like to be able to have our day 1 lynch proceed smoothly. Because of that, I want to know what people think about the following idea; We have one of the two masons claim. Given that we have verrrrry likely have medic(s), they can prot him and keep him alive during the game. If the player is lying, one (not both!) of the real masons can call him out. Given the fact that there are only 2 total mafia members today, it would cost the mafia essentially half their team to contest the mason claim. This is also a reason why claiming immediately would be more helpful than claiming at a later date. The downsides of this? Godfather now has a person he knows not to recruit, and the mason might die once mafia kp gets over 1. If we do that, we have a confirmed townie who can essentially drive our vote; if he's wrong, cool beans, it happens. If he's right; awesome. Either way, it'll prevent exploitable intra-town conflicts. And zeks roleclaim to mason (no contention as of yet, so assuming hes legitimate sounds very reasonable to me) + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2010 11:58 zeks wrote: wow the reception was awesome! Sorry for mindfucking you all for 10 mins rofl Yes I'm one of the Masons. For better or for worse god picked me to be the Mason and the other mason and I agreed that I'd come out and roleclaim. Now I'm going out for real now, no more posting for the night, play on, speculate if you will. I'll read through all this in the morning. And then Korynne's plan. People seem to have been questioning it, and we have already lynched someone, but there is some useful strategies in here, so use your intuition. We won't hate you for trying  + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2010 12:49 Korynne wrote: Also DCLXVI, it's KoryNNE not KoryNEE. rastaban I like the idea, except GF can still recruit when mafia is roleblocked right? So then best case scenerio we find 2 mafia, we end up with this situation of 5 mafia (GF recruits while we sit around roleblocking mafia), hopefully none of which are roleblocker or we're screwed on that plan unless the dream catcher gets roleblocker from another blue. And then us lynching people can potentially out the roleblocker. Or we sit around and not lynch people? That seems like a rather stalemate. So I don't think that idea works very well... but if we go ahead and pretend there's at least one roleblocker, we can roleblock instead of lynching someone. If mafia doesn't kill that night, we lynch the guy, if mafia does kill that night then we don't lynch the guy. So if mafia wants to get the guy killed they have to sacrifice their night kill to get the guy killed, so basically it would be like us not lynching and mafia nightkilling that guy. I think that's a valid plan. But that requires a roleblocker... so... I don't know how confident we are on that matter. =\ So if we go ahead with this, it means we should pseudovote in this thread, and only vote to kill someone in the other thread when a night kill doesn't happen. And some shameless self-promotion if you really dont know where to start. Assume the more games they've played and how active a player is ups how experienced they are and merge it with the gut feelings you get from this thread. You should be able to generate a solid guess as to what you should do. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2010 13:55 bumatlarge wrote: Fun play makes me a very happy person. I love you darth. On that note, there seem to be very few new players who I have not seen play, but could have been in other games, but I have played with a good amount of the roster. That being said, I put together a list of people who have played together. I know I would like to pick someone I was familiar with. I think if you're mafia with someone, you get in contact a little more with them, and if they are cohesive, it should lead somewhere in this game. Havent gone to fr into it. If you see something I missed, got wrong, or want to go deeper, be my guest. (R) = red role + Show Spoiler + Game 2: L(R), Chezinu, AFJ, bum Game 3: chezinu, bum Ace MWorld: bum, Qatol Resurrection: zeks, qatol Game 4: bum, lakrismama(R), Qatol Game 5: Qatol, bum, zeks Game 7: Qatol(R), L Game XII: L, Chezinu Red Army: L, Chez(R) Mini Mafia #1: Chez, Qatol Smurf: lol not going to bother Mafia XV: Chez(R), L(R) Mini Mafia 2: L, Chezinu Game XVIII: L, Chez, Abenson Red army 2: L, Chez, BM, Abenson, citizen Game XX: BM, L, Abenson, citizen Game XIV: BM, Abenson, citizen Micro: Abenson, citizen Micro 2: L, BM WaW: BM, L, Abenson, citizen Steve Zizou: Korynne(R), brownbear, Abenson Game 22: AFJ, BM(R), Abenson, Bear PYPM: BM, citizen, L, Korynne, Qatol (what the hell happened) 3King: L, BM, Abenson, bear (I didnt understand this much...) bang bang: L, Korynne, bear, chez, citizen(R) game 26: bum(R), elyas, AFJ, DCL, zeks game 27: L(R), chez(R), citizen, afj Team Mini: BM+Chez, L, bum, korynne, yellow(R), DCL+divine, bear # of times played with (again i probably missed things) + Show Spoiler + L + Chez = 10(2R) BM + Abenson = 6 L + BM = 6 Abenson + citizen = 5 BM + citizen = 5 L + citizen = 5 L + Aben = 5 Korynne + L = 3 Korynne + bear = 3 aben + bear= 3 chez + bum = 3 bum + Qatol = 3 chez + citizen = 3 Pretty interesting, but nothing to nail anything something down. Its just to find chains of things for blue roles to use if they hit gold, and for us to put soe method to our lynching if we have nothing. I don't know the state of any of the 'connections' besides my own. From what I gather, L is completely apathetic towards chezinu. Who knows, use this as you will. | ||
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