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That plan seems great and everything but it forces us into the position of do or die on D3. The original plan would let us potentially find scum and lynch them as we go, and if we don't we'll be on the do or die situation. With your suggestion, there's almost no way of avoiding that scenario. I'd prefer to go with the original plan. | ||
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Unless I'm misunderstanding something, you're suggesting that if we go on with the plan, mafia will control day 3's lynch. The main purpose of the plan is to find people aligned with mafia. The plan is not meant to prove the innocence of anyone. So if we use the plan and we fail to find anyone aligned with mafia, then in the worst case scenario.. On day 3, there will be 11 pro-town and 5 anti-town. 9 to lynch. They wouldn't necessarily 'control' the vote as they would need 4 pro-town to vote with scum. To make things worse for scum, the traitor wouldn't know who's who and the mafia themselves don't know who the GF is. It doesn't seem that hopeless for town. | ||
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On July 03 2010 11:36 L wrote:s for the potential 'flaw' in the plan, I don't see why you assume we're sitting on the same group of 3 for 3 days? As stated above, we aren't proving innocence with our roleblocks, so unless mafia miss a hit, there's really no reason to not draw up a new 3 man list each day. That doesn't change the fact that we'll be forced into that do or die position in D3 as you stated. Even if we draw up a new 3 man list it won't change anything. We won't be able to lynch any of the 3 unless the RB steps up, which will be on D3 if we use your plan. | ||
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On July 03 2010 11:36 L wrote: They don't necessarily 'control' the vote until they hit their win condition of outnumbering the plan. They do, however, have the option of faking being RB'd to push the town into a very easy lynch on someone who isn't mafia on day 3, which is the same as controlling the lynch. Oh and yeah I must've misunderstood this part. This was one of my arguments against Korynne earlier when she was suggesting the plan. | ||
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May the gracious God look past your inactive sins and welcome you into his kingdom. | ||
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Since we're nearing D2 and we're not concrete on any plan yet, I think we should default to Korynne's original plan for N1 'cause that was discussed the most. The last thing we need is the roleblocker to not read half of this stuff and be confused as to which plan to follow. So it'll be good if you roleblock YellowInk. If everyone wants to follow L's modified plan I don't think we should do it N1, because it'll cause too much confusion as we're nearing the deadline. And confusion is the greatest tool of scum. | ||
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Besides there's only 30 minutes of night left. We should discuss any new changes to the plan for N2. | ||
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On July 04 2010 12:36 Bill Murray wrote: it's day? any detectives find the godfather? if someone rolechecked a townie what is their best option? they cannot pm them, so i'm assuming there is nothing for them to do but look for the godfather on the next night. i am pretty sure that we will have a few detectives. it would suck if the kid who just got modkilled was one of them. DT can't check first night. Also, this post DOES seem a bit scummy. I don't really have any reasoning behind it so I'm just going to ignore this scummy vibe I'm getting. So... What now? | ||
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On July 04 2010 13:36 Divinek wrote: + Show Spoiler + you know the more i think about it the more it seems like L's plan benefits red more than town. Because if our claimed mason is lying we don't know it, only the mob would know. Just seems giving the mob 100% real info while town is only getting info as far as we can reasonably trust doesnt seem as good for us. So we go on his word that he's a confirmed townie when he could easily be red and why would anyone ever question it, because as soon as a real mason steps out to say something about it they're either going to die, or they're just going to actually give the gf a person not to waste a recruit attempt on. And even if we figure all this out and lynch the fake claimed mason that's just 1 of infinitely many mafia down while a real mason is actually outed and we wouldnt know it to protect for sure until it was too late. Cause none of this stuff can be confirmed without a DT check or coroner after death and why waste a check on a claimed mason as a GF would never be dumb enough to do something like that. At least i see it as nearly beneficial for both of the masons to stay silent and keep the GF's odds lower on success while maybe pushing for the lynch of the fake claimer? That's if it's actually fake, while thus far it could be reasonable to assume it's real. Or maybe that doesnt quite play out like i think it does but hurrah for generating discussion And if our mason really is a mason why waste any actions on him, since red thinks we're going to protect him they wouldnt waste time trying to take him out since they figure he's going to be safe anyways. Though i guess there's not much else to use a jailkeeper for unless you're going to be randomly trying to stop recruitment and that has a pretty slim chance of working sooo yeah. Not that im at this point claiming L to be scummy for the plan, but maybe he could go into more depth how it'd be more useful for town than mob. This is the most wifomy post I've seen in this entire game. Please, for the love of God, please stop saying that Zeks is a fake mason. | ||
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So unless anyone objects (as I see no reason to): Zeks can you post some sort of encrypted message that requires a key? | ||
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Hence, WIFOM is a horrible argument and any argument containing too much WIFOM should be scrapped. ie. start posting some real content please, divinek. | ||
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FoS Divinek | ||
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2 confirmed townies is a big deal later when there's maybe 13 people left and 5 of them are scum. | ||
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