EPTTL Mafia XXVI - Page 7
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LunarDestiny
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Searching for the "FUCK YEAH" and the "FACEPALM" pics. | ||
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LunarDestiny
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Hugoboss21, 3 Lions, and Tyranos_NiveK are to be given warnings. Yeah, screw inactive. | ||
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Will probably take a more passive role from now on as my decision making is crap right now. | ||
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On June 08 2010 13:46 Zyrre wrote: Shouldn't all mafias have tried to vote for and convince the town to lynch MooCow? If deuce is a mafia, they obviously would rather have MooCow lynched. If deuce is townie, they would still rather have MooCow since he was more active. Less activity makes it easier for them to lurk and hide. Now they most likely wouldn't risk to start the bandwagon, but rather jump on it later. Those who voted for MooCow were: AcrossFiveJulys DCLXVI Misder BrownBear zeks sputnik.theory onihunter DarthThienAn (x3) LunarDestiny That's a fairly short list considering there are 6 mafias. Can't be completely certain they are all in there obviously, but starting with these guys should be the best option. Yeah, I knew it when I recast my vote if MooCow is not mafia. Those who unvote then vote would be highly suspicious. At that time, I was convinced (well, I am not so sure that deuce is mafia and time is running out so I couldn't do some look up on MooCow) that MooCow was is a better choice. I am also pretty sure that even if people want to change their votes to MooCow that they won't do it to avoid suspicion. So I took that risk and it ended up as a failure. | ||
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The mafia also might consider to stack 2 hits on someone that is analyzing in the correct direction. | ||
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In this game, I played with the intention that I want town to win even if I have to make myself suspicious. Darth got most of his analysis on me correct but I want to add more, not to protect myself, but in a third person point of view. The asking for medic protection is very mafia like. I played very active and have significant influence in the entire game. It is to the mafia's benefit that a medic waste his night protect on a mafia to decrease the chance that mafia's target be killed. If I am really a townie as I claimed, it is to the town's benefit that I take the mafia hit for our blue role (damn Icysoul and your wasted day kill ability). Everyone can make chart Darth missed a critical reason for this. In the last mafia game I played (Bang Bang Mafia) where I was the godfather, I also made some kind of charts for town and the mafia as well. In the mafia thread, I stated that if I make the chart about who can be who, the mafia's version of the chart would be better than town's chart. Less content posts and high post counts are always the characteristic of my post If you check the past mafia game I played (3 kingdoms and bang bang), you will see that my posts are very similar to posts to this game. I think I gotten better after each game I played so my content in this game might be even better than my previous two games. My playing style is somewhat different Even though this game has clues pointing to mafia, I don't emphasis too heavily on them because the clues are vague and can be very misleading. I only relate to them if I want to make a counter claim. I prefer to use behavior analysis and other kind of analysis (like voting timing, activity in game, reaction to post) that are somewhat unique. End of third person point of view. After the result of night 1 that I might have wasted a medic protection, I decided that I want the town to win even if it costs my life. I have regularly pointed out my actions in this game are very suspicious because I had too much influence on the game. I started both bandwagon for Darth and YellowInk (who both I still believe are pro town because of pming to inactives (who the confrimed barth is dead as a townie) and posting history respectively). I prevented a possible bang wagon of lynching TheGilaBoys because the lack of concrete reasons for the lynch. Looking back, I never really state very good reason for lynching Deuce except for his inactivity and almost zero contribution to town. But I kind of rallied the bandwagon for lynching him because I think he is a better target than TheGilaBoys. I changed my vote to MooCow not because I have my reason doing so but my feeling that Deuce is mafia is not strong and others have strong belief that MooCow is mafia. Now what to do for me: 1)I can be more passive and not start any band wagon in the future. And deal with my case in a later time. 2)A detective could probably clear me of doubt being mafia. I don't recommend this before the Miller is still not to be found. As the number of people alive in game decreases, my chance of being a miller increases. Again, a dt check still doesn't clear me 100% because there is still the suspicion of me being the godfather. Either way, I think detectives should use their checks on others. 3)Lynching is the third choice. My influence on the game is debatably the highest in the game. I still feel good about my influence on the election. But my influence and decision on day 2 lynch turned out to be bad. Maybe if we lynched TheGilaBoys or Deuce, a mafia will be killed. To clear confusion in town, the best possible decision is the lynching of myself but it will waste a lynch. The alternative is to do a double lynch of me and another person so that the is will be quicker to lower the kill power of the mafia and to avoid mafia having more influence to the lynch voting. | ||
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Now what to do with me: | ||
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When examining my case, you have to ask yourself why he did this? The best prove of my innocence is probably the mayor election. I won't take much credit for Darth being elected as mayor (although I was his second vote), he was trusted by the town to begin with. For YellowInk, can I take some credit for him being the runner up? My choice of supporting him is correct, because he turned out to be one of the most helpful poster. Now, for the explanation of asking for medic protection. I thought I was attracting a lot of attention. If the mafia wants to find a target, I might be a likely target so I asked for medic protection. From day 2 onward, I never asked another medic protection because I realize that the death as a townie, rather than a blue role, benefits the town. I argued against lynching TheGilaBoys, because the reasons for lynching him is very flawed. My choice for lynching Deuce is because he was a better target in comparison. Lastly, my switch to MooCow. I will say that choice is 50/50 since we don't have solid evidence that either is mafia. Weighting inactivity against possible suspicion, I finalized the lynch because I don't think anyone else is willing to be that final person. I never thought I will hide anything for town and tried to play as explicit as possible. If you guys thinks that is some kind of mind game, I won't argue with that. Again, I strongly against having a dt check on me since it might not prove anything (miller/godfather). Better solutions are to trust me or lynch me and get it done with. | ||
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1)called for medic protection on day 1. 2)changed my vote on both day. Can you explain why this is mafia like? I was on the winning side both times and yet I switch. If I want to not attract attention, I could stayed with my votes. 3)don't give good analysis. When I do analysis, it is probably to validate my decisions. If this is mafia-like to you, then I can't argue with that. That is just how I have been playing even for the last 2 games. Now keeping me alive without doing anything is like adding a dead weight to town. If I am town, I can't do anything productive since I had lost the town's trust. If I am mafia, I might pose a lot of problems in the future. | ||
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LunarDestiny
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Before MooCow gets first vote: TheGilaboy: LaXerCannon (12:48) pyr0ma5ta (07:35) CompX (09:43) Deucegladlier: Deucegladlier (04:52) YellowInk (07:11) crate (09:39) LunarDestiny (10:35) Misder (12:07) littlechava (12:21) Zyrre (18:08) DarthThienAn (18:47) + Show Spoiler [MooCow was voted once before bandwagon] + After MooCow was voted once before getting the 2nd vote: TheGilaboy: LaXerCannon (12:48) pyr0ma5ta (07:35) CompX (09:43) bumatlarge (05:49) new vote Deucegladlier: Deucegladlier (04:52) YellowInk (07:11) crate (09:39) LunarDestiny (10:35) Misder (12:07) littlechava (12:21) Zyrre (18:08) DarthThienAn (18:47) BrownBear (01:46) new vote Thegilaboy (02:52) new vote onihunter (03:04) new vote deconduo (04:06) new vote Hugoboss21 (04:23) new vote DCLXVI (04:34) new vote MTF (04:39) new vote MooCow: AcrossFiveJulys (00:16) new vote + Show Spoiler [The rest of the votes] + The rest of the votes: TheGilaboy: LaXerCannon (12:48) pyr0ma5ta (07:35) CompX (09:43) bumatlarge (05:49) Deucegladlier: Deucegladlier (04:52) YellowInk (07:11) crate (09:39) LunarDestiny (10:35AM) unvote (10:56PM) Misder (12:07) unvote (06:28) littlechava (12:21) Zyrre (18:08) DarthThienAn (18:47) unvote (10:42) BrownBear (01:46) unvote (08:09) Thegilaboy (02:52) onihunter (03:04) unvote (10:33) deconduo (04:06) Hugoboss21 (04:23) DCLXVI (04:34) unvote (06:01) MTF (04:39) MooCow: AcrossFiveJulys (00:16) DCLXVI (06:01) revote Misder (06:28) revote BrownBear (08:09) revote zeks (09:15) sputnik.theory (09:34) onihunter (10:33) revote DarthThienAn (10:42) revote LunarDestiny (10:56) revote IF situation 1 (TheGilaBoy town and Deuce town) Before the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia has no incentive over who to lynch (although they would prefer lynching the more active TheGilaBoy. During the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia who didn't vote yet has two choices of either deuce or MooCow. MooCow is a better target since he is the more active poster. Mafia who voted would not recast their votes to avoid attention. IF situation 2 (TheGilaBoy town and Deuce mafia) Before the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia would choose to lynch TheGilaBoy. During the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia who didn't vote yet would choose to vote MooCow. Mafia who voted also would choose to recast their votes to MooCow. IF situation 3 (TheGilaBoy mafia and Deuce town) Before the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia would choose to lynch Deuce. During the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia who didn't vote yet would have no incentive choosing to lynch Deuce or MooCow (although they would prefer lynch the more active MooCow). Mafia who voted would have no incentive to choosing to lynch Deuce or MooCow (although they would prefer lynch the more active MooCow). IF situation 4 (TheGilaBoy mafia and Deuce mafia) Before the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia would have no incentive choosing to lynch TheGilaBoy or MooCow (although they would prefer to lynch the less active Deuce). During the bandwagon of MooCow, mafia who didn't vote yet would choose to vote MooCow. Mafia who voted would choose to recast their votes to MooCow. As of now, this information is pretty useless. This is an useful reference when we know the alignment of either TheGilaBoy, Deuce, or both. Corrections are welcome. | ||
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