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YellowInk
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 06 2010 12:21 LunarDestiny wrote: What we really need is the person who was protected to step out. Please don't tell who protected you even if you know. For the detectives who role checked and the result is pro town, you have the option to use that person as your spoke person (it is very unlikely you got the godfather) Careful, it's not the first time you've said that. People might think you're the godfather.  Regardless, there is one godfather in this game. We're going to encounter him sooner or later so it's worth always being on guard. Personally, if I were a DT and I found a townie on my first rolecheck, if I weren't confiding in the mayor or pardoner, I probably wouldn't tell anyone. When I found a second townie I'd tell them both I was the DT and leave a broken code between multiple people for if I got knocked off. This makes it harder for the mafia to just immediately kill the DT if one of them were the godfather - or if they do, the godfather gets revealed and lynched. | ||
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YellowInk
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YellowInk
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On June 06 2010 22:06 Zyrre wrote: I'll try to post more so the town doesn't have to waste time investigating me simply because of inactivity, but it's harder to post a lot when the majority of the discussion is taking place during my sleeping hours. This goes for everyone of course. You don't need to post when other people are posting. Just put your thoughts out there. Point fingers, defend people, analyze clues, tell us what is on your mind. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
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YellowInk
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Unfortunately, many of the people who were mostly inactive before are still mostly or completely inactive now. So lets work with my night 1 list minus people who have picked up a bit: CompX Deucegladlier TyranoS_NiveK &LaXerCannon &Misder *Icysoul *supernovamaniac Among these, LaXerCannon and Misder have posted a few times since (though all things considered, we need a lot more from them to make up for near total inactivity day 1), so lets eliminate them for now. The * are under warning for inaction and may be modkilled tonight. If they speak up, they better speak LOUDLY and talk about what they think of this game. That leaves us with three serious inactives - people who have posted/voted to avoid modkill but havn't provided any substance. From what little we DO know of these three, what do you all think? | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 07 2010 04:57 Thegilaboy wrote: And Deucegladier, you just voted for yourself in the lynching thread, any particular reason for that? I had earlier suggested that if you wish to abstain, just vote for yourself. Perhaps he is going to put up another no substance post and call it a day. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 07 2010 05:16 YellowInk wrote: I had earlier suggested that if you wish to abstain, just vote for yourself. Perhaps he is going to put up another no substance post and call it a day. Sorry, missed that he already did just post a no substance post. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
So assuming none of these people decide to step up and play, who do we like to target? CompX Deucegladlier TyranoS_NiveK | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
My vote is on Deucegladlier unless he convinces me he wants to play or someone shows up as a scum target. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 07 2010 07:39 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I know there have been a few accusations thrown out at me lately; I'll address those in my next post. But I want to emphasize the shit out of this post by yellowink. Do not put 100% trust in MTF. This could easily be a ploy by the mafia to draw blues by PM and get MTF into the mayor/pardoner circle (if there is one). I think we should trust MTF to be town, but not trust him enough to have the blues PM him. I specifically asked the medic who covered MTF to come forward and tell MTF (and/or me). If no medic covered MTF, well, there's no one to come forward. I did not ask anyone and everyone to roleclaim to MTF, no worries.  | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 07 2010 07:55 littlechava wrote: I guess voting for deucegladlier is a good idea then, since he clearly doesn't care about the game? Shame if he's a townie, but he's useless either way :\ I've already said it, but I think Hugoboss21 falls into the inactive category and should be added to YellowInk's list of Tyranos/deucegladlier/CompX for possible lynch targets. I would agree with this, and should Deucegladlier decide to speak up and provide insight and substance, I could be convinced Hugoboss21 is as good of a target as the other two for inactivity. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 07 2010 07:27 zeks wrote: I'm not for the double lynch used right now - judging from YI/DTA's posts I kind of doubt the DTs have roleclaimed to them yet (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) and their posts haven't convinced me that they've really discovered too much outside of what the majority town doesn't know already. Are the PMs different for a vet being hit or a medic save? The reason I suggested the double lynch is not because I have some special information. It's because the faster we can get to a state where there are no inactives, the faster we can be hammering folk about the inconsistancies in their stories without any shadows for them to just hide in. I suspect we will have plenty of 'good' lynch targets tomorrow even if there are no obvious scum. Then we can get on with the game. It is my hope that we would have info for at least one scum (maybe two if a DT happened to hit two scum in their rolechecks and came forward?) while still maintaining pressure on inactives to get in the game. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
The reason I am voting for Deuce is not because I specifically want him dead. As crate so succinctly put it, the way he is playing is a way that is only beneficial if he is mafia. The vote is to put heat on him so that if he is town, he will turn from his mafia-like ways and play like a townie should. Furthermore, if he is a good mafia, he will post just to stay alive to get the bandwagon off of him - but I expect some seriously good content out of him to shift once the weight is on him. His teammates may have to help him out with that. If he chooses to continue without posting, he will hang, since this strategy is only effective if you are mafia. If he posts substance, we can shift the wagon to another inactive - we seem to have plenty. And as a warning to the other inactives (especially those I've already listed), if you don't want it shifting to you after Deuce posts, you better post now, because there probably won't be time to shift it to a third target. So to all the townsfolk, go ahead and vote. You can always shift it later. This will help hammer the point home that you will not tolerate people playing with Deuce's current style - hopefully (though this is very optimistic) without spilling any more innocent blood. | ||
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YellowInk
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On June 07 2010 12:35 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Does anyone else find this exchange very strange? So... MTF states this scenario as a possibility, then claims to be hit the next night. sputnik comes up with a very interesting and plausible scenario, then MTF states that it's a "ridiculously convoluted scheme" even though he mentioned it as a possibility earlier. I would hardly call that a "ridiculously convoluted" scheme, since all that happened is he hinted at the possibility of such a scheme existing and then may have gone through with it (it's actually a smart scheme). I find sputnik's theory very interesting, as it matches perfectly with clues in a subtle way and explains a very improbable occurrence (successful medic protect on first night). Note that MTF has not claimed to have been contacted by a medic but did say that it was a medic who saved him. The best thing MTF could have done is keep his mouth shut about whether a medic was protecting him or not. Then, the mafia would not know whether their hit was blocked because he is a veteran or medic protected. MTF should know this as a seasoned mafia player. Does this seem strange to anyone else? The problem with this is the risk vs reward. Suppose a DT checks out MTF and finds him to be mafia. If that is an accurate connection, it could be a very swift triple lynching. All of this at risk just to get MTF some evidence of looking like town. Of course keep the idea in mind for later in the game when we find out such things, but I'm inclined to believe MTF. | ||
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YellowInk
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While all of us continue to vote for Deucegladlier, by all means, lets discuss the other targets' merits and faults. People like CompX, Hugoboss21, and TyranoS_NiveK are on the block for inactivity - but there's also a number of people who have gotten a lot quieter on day 2 after an ok day 1... | ||
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YellowInk
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On June 07 2010 23:29 zeks wrote: Are we going to keep lynching inactives until there are no more? If deuce flips green we should really rethink that...we only have so many lynches and so much time On June 07 2010 23:37 pyr0ma5ta wrote: My point exactly. Incidentally, can someone enlighten me as to why we all gave our elected blues free passes? I'm still not convinced. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127781¤tpage=28#551 | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:07 pyr0ma5ta wrote: I recognize this point. I've already stated that I don't have a major problem with lynching Deuce this round. And yeah, don't bother using a pardon on him if it gets to that. But my point about why our blues get free passes, I'd like to ask the town at large. Why does everyone seem to trust YellowInk and Darth implicitly? I assure you, not everyone trusts either Darth or myself implicitly. People either agree with our logic or they don't. If they do, they follow our plans. If not, they voice their dissent and perhaps the plan is revised. No one has provided a better argument than I have against Deuce, so that is where the town is leaning. I don't expect you to vote for him because 'you don't have a major problem with it'. You should make your vote count. Keep in mind that mafia will attempt to instill a sort of 'groupthink' attitude so that they can sway a large number of people with their small numbers. The difference between my or DTA calling on the town vs mafia covertly trying to sway the town is that a number of people have placed their faith in us. If you disagree with anything I say, by all means, counter the argument. Even if you believe I'm town 100%, that doesn't mean you believe I'm perfect. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
Thus, Deuce remains the best target until we have a scum target that is more than merely moderately suspicious. | ||
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