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On March 26 2010 07:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
L I think the town shouldn't save Caller of their own will because the act of agreeing to do that could save a mafia, or a townie.
However if we agree to NOT anti-nuke the mafia would have to make a decision. Do we let our player die? or do we use OUR anti-nukes and try to convince the town the next day that some ingenious townie decided to save caller AGAINST the towns will. Which since we agree this play is mafia you can see who is trying to save caller.
Not saving anti-nuking caller is the smartest thing to do in this situation.
and Haster7, I am not a very emotional player. I get irritated sometimes, that's about it. I will not be launching retaliation nukes every 5 minutes, considering I don't have any left.
yes you are lol stop lying.
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On March 26 2010 21:13 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 16:39 Bill Murray wrote:
WHAT I PROPOSE:
Lynch Abenson solely to give the town someone to build a circle around with ~OpZ~. I find it highly unlikely that masons would be on different sides given the format that we are using. I would like to disagree with this. Since this game has no PMs allowed, confirming OpZ does not allow us to "build a circle" because no one else can talk with OpZ privately, detectives cannot use OpZ as a mouthpiece, and none of the regular benefits of a "town circle" can be realized.
Well for all we know Ace could have informed that the detective role was aloud to PM other players....
ie check the rules:
No talking about the game outside the thread. This includes Private Messages unless your role gives you permission to do so. You will be mod-killed if this rule is broken.
I mean Ace is really putting us in the dark here since we don't really know what the role PM's specifically stated, if anything was said at all.
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so I guess we're not being conservative about nuking anymore? lol
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On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:
If he said Yes, then he didn't change rules at all if you phrased it as you said in your post at the bottom of page 54.
I'm glad the missile towards me was shot down, but what the fuck at these other missiles. Admittedly, both of these are rather expected given the L was saved situation.
I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.
Keep this in mind: NK may shoot another nuke tomorrow; he has anonymous nuking powers and has been shown to be clearly antitown since nobody has come up to state "hey, I'm NK, this is why I shot at Elemenope".
As for the Amber-d3 inactivity: there's a lot of people who I haven't seen actually post real content about these last missiles, namely:
d3 - posted just a few lines
xelin - posted explaining his reasoning behind his day one pre-lynch actions
Amber - hasn't posted nearly anything about these nukes
Caller - hasn't posted anything at all I believe since RoL's missile was shot down
Zona - This is a big surprise in my opinion. He hasn't posted at all since March 27 2010 05:57. 3 missiles has been shot since then, where are you Zona?
Fishball - Posted somewhat early on, but recent posts have been lacking in terms of content other than showing how L is hypocritical/a douche/whatever
Nikon - Last main post was during the 'should Japan come out and claim'
nemY - Hasn't posted anything worth of content since his vote to lynch RoL.
We have had what, 6 missiles shot by now? It shouldn't be that difficult to have something to talk about. Even if it's a "hey, I don't agree with this missile getting shot down" or whatever or "OMG THERE'S AN NK WITH ANONYMOUS NUKES".
On March 27 2010 23:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
so I guess we're not being conservative about nuking anymore? lol
Page 53 for reference.
If you read the first few pages of this thread you should know of my stance on nuking. I'm not going to re-iterate what I said, but JeeJee and I have been on the same wavelength for the past 50 or so pages. I voted for L originally and then moved to Abenson, didn't remove since the mob went for RoL, who I figured was just being a complete faggot (check page 33 or so where I called him out for being a retard).
I didn't believe RoL was mafia, but he went against the policy I assumed the town agreed on, which was "NO NUKING!" The lynch was justifiable so I can't sit and point fingers.
I have nothing to say about the recent nuke-happy players. As I quoted from the bottom of Page 53 I asked a sarcastic question. What more can I ask since the town as completely abandoned playing this game with any structure.
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And Versatile don't act like I haven't been active this game. Just because I'm not posting during the shit-flinging contest doesn't mean I should be "looked at."
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also *town has completely
terrible spell check 
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No one should nuke Tree.Hugger... but he should be on the next lynch list for sure.
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So we're going to just ignore L's death and let Tree.Hugger sit around for a little longer?
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On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote:
We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future?
L was so confident that tree.hugger was targeting him and out of all of the people who have been targeted his posts prior to death seem to be the best leads we have. If we are going to prioritize lynching I think he should be first. I'm still not advocating nuking anyone anymore. We have already moved from Very Low to Low ToD. We need to conserve nuke usage. Here's where we need to make sure that we conserve our resources for the late-game (re-hashing 50 pages prior)
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I switched to Abenson. I finally bought into the idea that he would be an asset to the town. Abenson was band-wagon voting L and it was obvious who should have been lynched. Then RoL casted his nuke and the town went with the anti-nuking policy we (I thought) established.
I never had any aggression towards any L post after that and never disagreed with anything he had to say. He wasn't a threat to the town when he was unbanned, and if I could have stopped his death I would have.
If you think I'm before tree.hugger we need to sort this out asap.
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On March 29 2010 01:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
And also note Amber, you were part of my massive post of quotes, just to show the stance on L in the beginning of the game. I could of quoted almost every post of yours and then you just fell off the radar. And now you pop up to point at tree.hugger using L's logic? The same logic you and him both have been discrediting? I think you should take precedent over tree.hugger. You started the bus.
my last post.
I knew the L bandwagon would be a good way to attract the masses. Suspect me if you want, but I never actually believed he would be lynched. My last post switching from L to Abenson:
On March 25 2010 01:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
ok ok i see whats going on here. There's way too much nonsensical reasoning for lynching L and I'm not going to be part of this bandwagon.
##Vote Abenson
He's the most inactive, has refused to post his reasoning for lynching L, and I'd be willing to give L the benefit of the doubt that he will be helpful in the future.
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ignore the first 'my last post' did it in another order :/
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Opz don't cancel the nuke. Let it fall For the love of
god
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On March 29 2010 23:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2010 10:19 Zona wrote:
Thirdly, I DETEST the argument that getting towards the ToD strictly removes nukes as an option from the other side. Sure, you make it harder for the other side to win with nukes. But you also GRANT them the option of forcing a draw using nukes if they're close to losing. Why is everyone just looking at one side of things and not the other side with the consequences or alternatives?
Oh, and Zona? That problem with the mafia trying to get a draw? Don't you support saving anti-nukes? Well guess what...Town launches almost all their nukes, increase ToD, no one needs to anti-nuke, so all other anti-nukes are saved. Then when mafia tries to force a draw, you antinuke it. They would have to reveal themselves by nuking to begin with, and at the ToD's high point, a townie will not fire a nuke. AGAIN, you've argued to save anti-nukes for late game. So your argument makes no sense why wouldn't we want to increase the ToD. If it's the town launching the nukes at ONE player, then the MAFIA can't nuke anyway. Town wont want to nuke Mafia will possibly want to cause draw, and will be forced to out themselves by nuking. The rest of the anti-nukes would be saved to prevent the draw, as town would have no need for nukes. The mafia couldn't use them as day kills because the ToD, and it would out themselves. Find the problem there. Because I don't see it. We wouldn't stop the 3 to 6 nukes flying at our target, so we'd have the anti-nukes to stop mafia from causing the draw that you had a problem with.
This plan, though I agree with, seems extremely risky. We're threatening a number of townies' lives. The mafia could outnumber us if we're sending nukes around like they're going out of style and killing our own. That and we'll begin accusing ourselves for killing our town foolishly.
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On March 30 2010 00:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:
That plan...Amber...Involves NUKING ONE PERSON, and leaving it at that. Everyone launches their nukes at a single person.
I posted it last page, a development off of L's original plan.
whoops back to work for me
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On March 30 2010 01:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
My only request is the world stops ignoring Amber, and blaming versatile for the bandwagon on L. It was Amber who made the most posts saying Kill L, he'll be inactive and we can't do nothing with inactive townies.
I didn't create a bandwagon intending on actually killing L.
I spotted when the mindless drones started voting L and I switched my vote to one of those mindless drones, someone who should still be a big suspect in this game...
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On March 30 2010 02:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2010 02:21 Amber[LighT] wrote:On March 30 2010 01:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
My only request is the world stops ignoring Amber, and blaming versatile for the bandwagon on L. It was Amber who made the most posts saying Kill L, he'll be inactive and we can't do nothing with inactive townies. I didn't create a bandwagon intending on actually killing L. I spotted when the mindless drones started voting L and I switched my vote to one of those mindless drones, someone who should still be a big suspect in this game... Who did you switch your vote to? Abenson?
yes someone who should still be a suspect
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On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2010 02:31 Versatile wrote:
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw. What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow. Seriously, you guys just amaze me.
wow nice copy and paste mafia scum
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On March 30 2010 02:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2010 02:31 Amber[LighT] wrote:On March 30 2010 02:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:On March 30 2010 02:21 Amber[LighT] wrote:On March 30 2010 01:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
My only request is the world stops ignoring Amber, and blaming versatile for the bandwagon on L. It was Amber who made the most posts saying Kill L, he'll be inactive and we can't do nothing with inactive townies. I didn't create a bandwagon intending on actually killing L. I spotted when the mindless drones started voting L and I switched my vote to one of those mindless drones, someone who should still be a big suspect in this game... Who did you switch your vote to? Abenson? yes someone who should still be a suspect Oh? Do you feel I am a suspect?
No.
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On March 30 2010 02:36 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2010 02:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote:On March 30 2010 02:31 Versatile wrote:
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw. What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow. Seriously, you guys just amaze me. wow nice copy and paste mafia scum Provide a reason for why I'm mafia.
prove your innocence
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