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On April 10 2010 09:17 haster27 wrote:
Warning: Citizen, I know you are frustrated, but seeing as now you can launch retaliation nuke against JeeJee, I will have to warn you as precaution. If you launch another nuke toward JeeJee I will be forced to abandon my defense of you completely. Also please confirm that the nuke you just robbed was fake because possibility of you lying about your ability still somewhat exists.
JeeJee no has bold. Can not be real nuke. Do not, I repeat do NOT hit him Citizen.
GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU GUYS.
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On April 10 2010 09:28 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 09:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 10 2010 01:20 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 23:55 JeeJee wrote:
to be fair i haven't gotten your clear stance on citizen's roleclaim lie. what do you make of it? at least answer this; i have done my best to explain my position as clearnly as possible. this still stands unanswered by opz, which irks me the most because this is what i base my whole argument on citizen's lynch about. it has been standing unanswered this entire time, even after i started ignoring all of my other points/queries in an effort to get your official stance on this one so there is no confusion with other points, yet somehow this still remains unanswered. please please PLEASE answer this. give me your official statement here. I have done my best to answer every single thing about my position and i believe i have done so. please return the favor by answering this one thing IF we LYNCH LMNOP AND HE IS MAFIA, like I've proved, THEN THERE WE GO. We know Citizens color. Lynching LMNOP PROVIDES JUST AS MUCH INFORMATION as Caller, Citizen. do you understand why i've finally snapped some minutes ago? i am convinced, convinced you're a fucking townie, i have asked you this one question among many others, it wasn't answered. i have eliminated all the "many others" and focused on this one question, you haven't answered. i brought it up again, saying "please please PLEASE answer this" you reply. AND DON'T ANSWER IT!!! dude what the fuck?
As I've said before JeeJee. I DON'T CARE if Citizen is lying. Holy fuck. I've done explained it before too. Citizen has explained the same thing (although after my posts) that Ace could have just used it as FLAVOR. If he is telling the truth, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ACE.
But....I've done explained LMNOP is lying. His death, opens up the world to us. Do you not understand that. I'm literally crying right now because you can't see that. I don't care about confirmed/unconfirmed role claims. You haven't even claimed. I just want LMNOP to die. LMNOP who has seemed like town most of the game, THROUGH HIS SUPPORT BEHIND CALLER. If LMNOP is mafia, CALLER is MOST LIKELY mafia.
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On April 10 2010 09:53 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 09:48 haster27 wrote:On April 10 2010 09:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 10 2010 09:17 haster27 wrote:
Warning: Citizen, I know you are frustrated, but seeing as now you can launch retaliation nuke against JeeJee, I will have to warn you as precaution. If you launch another nuke toward JeeJee I will be forced to abandon my defense of you completely. Also please confirm that the nuke you just robbed was fake because possibility of you lying about your ability still somewhat exists. JeeJee no has bold. Can not be real nuke. Do not, I repeat do NOT hit him Citizen. GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU GUYS. The fact that he has launched fake nukes before, and toward ~OpZ~ today is another proof that nuke JeeJee launched is obviously fake. pop quiz: when did i ever launch a fake nuke?
no...you haven't launched one. I mean, truth, all mafia has to do is launch nukes at one townie...I guess I'll have to find a way to force a draw. I will launch another nuke right before I get hit. If I die and pop mason, haster, launch a nuke at citizen, and I Implore all other townies, if I die, nuke citizen, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE NUKES. Citizen, retaliate one EVERYTHING, again, if I die.
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On April 10 2010 09:54 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 09:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 10 2010 09:28 JeeJee wrote:On April 10 2010 09:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 10 2010 01:20 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 23:55 JeeJee wrote:
to be fair i haven't gotten your clear stance on citizen's roleclaim lie. what do you make of it? at least answer this; i have done my best to explain my position as clearnly as possible. this still stands unanswered by opz, which irks me the most because this is what i base my whole argument on citizen's lynch about. it has been standing unanswered this entire time, even after i started ignoring all of my other points/queries in an effort to get your official stance on this one so there is no confusion with other points, yet somehow this still remains unanswered. please please PLEASE answer this. give me your official statement here. I have done my best to answer every single thing about my position and i believe i have done so. please return the favor by answering this one thing IF we LYNCH LMNOP AND HE IS MAFIA, like I've proved, THEN THERE WE GO. We know Citizens color. Lynching LMNOP PROVIDES JUST AS MUCH INFORMATION as Caller, Citizen. do you understand why i've finally snapped some minutes ago? i am convinced, convinced you're a fucking townie, i have asked you this one question among many others, it wasn't answered. i have eliminated all the "many others" and focused on this one question, you haven't answered. i brought it up again, saying "please please PLEASE answer this" you reply. AND DON'T ANSWER IT!!! dude what the fuck? As I've said before JeeJee. I DON'T CARE if Citizen is lying. Holy fuck. I've done explained it before too. Citizen has explained the same thing (although after my posts) that Ace could have just used it as FLAVOR. If he is telling the truth, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ACE. But....I've done explained LMNOP is lying. His death, opens up the world to us. Do you not understand that. I'm literally crying right now because you can't see that. I don't care about confirmed/unconfirmed role claims. You haven't even claimed. I just want LMNOP to die. LMNOP who has seemed like town most of the game, THROUGH HIS SUPPORT BEHIND CALLER. If LMNOP is mafia, CALLER is MOST LIKELY mafia. -_- you don't care that we have a confirmed roleclaimer of a liar? i'm done with logic.
Are you ignoring my statements about Flavor? or are you the blind one? I've addressed it previously by saying they could be flavor of the name. Flavor is just making something sound....better "DA BOOGEY MAN" for instance.
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....Right......I give up....Good Game.
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Again, Watch JeeJee be red. -_-...Ace shoulda left the day continue....
I knew I shoulda nuked before I went to work....
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This shouldn't be a long night....
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At the end of the night....I don't know where I'll be standing. Who's camp I'll be in. If there is another day, much winfom will occur.
Also, if Abenson = Mafia/Mason....
I will hate life.
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I bet you do....Lol...Well I'm the masonic sword actually, obv. reasons, you're the masonic shield....obv. reasons. So I'd assume we're both town aligned. Lol...Our roles are a little too intertwined. So I'm fairly certain you aren't mafia...
Sadly...I'm pretty sure if tonight doesn't end it, we will lylo tomorrow...and be fucked
That is all.
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On April 10 2010 20:18 Abenson wrote:
Lol I was wondering if you were mafia mason for some time
Also if you start listening to LMNOP I'll be furious...Thanks D3 for not voting, I'll be your mafia. Citizen, I'm tired of you voting for yourself. Haster, Appreciated it. JeeJee, Basically, if I'm right your LVP, if your right....I'm LVP....
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...Citizen...read haster's assessment
I did exactly what I told Abenson and random other people in PM's that aren't playing I was going to do....-_-...Isn't my fault town couldn't come together....had one more vote for caller to kill him. Had LMNOP about to be lynched...
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Oh well....Mafia will probably kill me or abenson tonight...
Dunno how the game goes....Dunno if they'll have numbers at the end of the night. Can hit d3 I suppose, try and have caller claim to have known he was townie...ect. ect.
I dunno...Games ova....
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On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 "
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Seriously...Don't remind me. You seen my pm's....
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JeeJee was the only one I wasn't sure about, but at the end....When he put his vote....I couldn't stand it. Seriously me jumping on citizen....Just handed it....and fucking no body would vote.
Props to Abenson. Thanks Ace...God life blows. and flamewheel
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On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there.
No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me
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On April 09 2010 12:05 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:35 JeeJee wrote:
This is what I'm trying oh so desperately to convey to you, and you seem to be missing it.
and yeah i'm ready to nuke whenever, although i believe we still have a fair amount of time
I don't believe my judgment is wrong here. We have two people, quite likely but not necessarily on different teams, one of which is a lying roleclaimer, the other one is just confusing as fuck. In a lylo situation (unless it is 6-3 but i doubt it) i can't believe we are not lynching the confirmed lying roleclaimer. It does not get more scummy than this. Nikon demonstrated this much too accurately.
Very true. We need people to argue. That's how we prevail. Through our discussion. I'm still not convinced of Caller's innocence. It pretty much becomes moot if Ace was just making flavor for the name as he did with me and Abenson.
Yo...JeeJee...I had answered the point you had said I been dodging, a bit before...
I thought you just kept saying I ignored it to make me mad.
Couldn't think of a good answer other than that....
So can I get anyones thoughts when I railed against citizen so hard? Please tell me you all saw that...I noticed JeeJee and Caller were the only to outright vote for citizen. Elemenope just tossed his support against citizen. I just refused to believe JeeJee was mafia...Had I turned there....
geh....Haster you bastard >_< You let JeeJee skate by, AND THEN said he didn't have to role claim...And you were the reason I had confirmed him...Omg....You coulda just claimed Town Aligned Arms Dealer (I think I posted the links to the games ace based this off of) especially considering you couldn't get hit at night.
Haster called for mafia by me, actually SK
Assumed Zona was dt, was actually vig
All the mafia defended L.... -______-
Last day I prove all mafia, and it all hinged on lynching LMNOP or Caller (assuming iaaan was mafia, but Haster would kill JeeJee, which would of put Iaaan back in the mix, I woulda said D3, but there was no way to get him lynched at that point.)
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Lol...
Well...I hope my trap is suscessful. I played it as good as I could, and for being so "purposely/seemingly" inactive, Caller sure missed a good bit of the thread. I also don't like Haster's arguments.
But two camps exist, with only d3 not being a part of either. If Citizen is town, and he voted for himself, it fucked my plan over completely. It forced LMNOP to sit on the sideline and not have to cast a vote.
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lol.
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Just some insight...my full intention was for mafia to bus citizen and help caller create the bandwagon, see who jumps on it, then jump on Caller's lynch train...If Caller is being truthful, after messing up in this post
"Neither of whom looks at nukes but at people. We also have a veteran (iaaan) who can take night hits. Not nukes. So clearly, there are plenty of roles that don't involve nukes."
Then I will be highly upset....
God...So many nukes...I thought it was more balanced with nukes/anti and less nukes than that...
It was still a fun ass game...
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