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On April 04 2010 01:08 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: well actually Abenson is just extending the day if his nukes were truthfully stolen No....That bitch is trying to kill me....
Nah...actually I told him to nuke me....He replied "....Wtf?"
Then nuked me....Little fucker...Lol..
<3
Anyway....About the Nikon/Iaaan situation....Unless it's possible Versatile was hit by both, mafia and SK, unless we have a medic left Nikon is being truthful. He claimed he took a hit last night. We need more information on that situation to make a good judgment call. Highly suspect, but Nikon, Iaaan's request about asking if you have Nuke protection, makes perfect sense, because he would know what Veterans roles contain.
He came out and posted his role, posting a true claim. Infund have you claimed? I'm curious as to all of these people coming out and voting now, without claiming. I believe the town has spoken and demanded role claims. Well, hop to it, or it will be another endless day that will show everyone that refuses to post their roles being killed. Also, all you last minute voters. Hi. How are you guys. Nice to see you come out and vote now...
## Vote No Lynch
I'm going to check for the rest of the claims right now.
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On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote: Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes. This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision. Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill... You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this. We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you? You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles: One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims. Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold. What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things: A) You are a veteran B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote: I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.
With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit? It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica? in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right? On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit. Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things: A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection Both of which do not help the town at all. So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile. What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?
Did also notice how both haster and infund popped up to throw votes on Caller?
I say we wait to see if Nikon's nuke is real. Should assume it the nuke post will let us know if his nuke protection is burned up, right LMNOP?
=D
And...I'll retaliate on Abenson if necessary, which will allow him to retaliate on me....I love life sometimes.
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EBWOP: Should assume the nuke post will let us know if his nuke protection is burned up, right LMNOP?
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On April 04 2010 00:32 haster27 wrote:
Also, Abenson. What the hell? Are you serious? Contingency planning. It serves a nice little purpose. I'll hold the nukes for now, he'll hold them in a minute, ect. ect. ect.
Ya dig?
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Going to work now. Be back later to swap my nukes back to Abenson, and then Nuke him.
WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION TODAY WHETHER YOU GUYS LIKE IT OR NOT MAFIA.
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Ace, I have one nuke to launch, and a retaliatory strike still, yes yes?
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On April 04 2010 03:29 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2010 21:13 Abenson wrote: Alright I have an announcement: Someone stole nuke(s) from me They left behind coffee beens and used cocaine needles Show nested quote +On April 04 2010 03:05 Abenson wrote: Alright, my nuke was used to extend the day and nothing else. Before nuking I gave all my nukes to ~OpZ~, so therefore the missile will do no harm. What If Caller were to check opz/abenson, I don't see what the point would be, if your town you would be red, if hes paranoid you would be red. The only way too see if he is insane is if he checks a mafia, right? I think we should give him another day or two and see what happens, and lynch someone else today. And the way my role PM was worded makes me believe that a fake nuke will not use up my nuke protection.
I already had all the nukes because I'm more active. He was just bitching about getting "robbed." I think the coffee beans and cocaine needles is a pretty clear indicator it happened.
Pretty simple to ascertain as to why I had the nukes in the first place. My activity is pretty much a shit ton more than Abensons...
Ya dig? He can only give them to me if he's on, so I usually hold them over (actual) night and during the (actual) morning. Atleast since the nuke thief popped up. I was wondering why we had this ability to begin with Lol.
I also don't think the nuke is fake Iaaan. And I want more discussion, so me and Abenson will extend the day as indefinitely as I feel necessary.
Japan. Step forward now. That is another thing I have against Caller. He was saved by Japan, and Japan has yet to step forward. Damn you Tree.Hugger for saying those with anti-nukes not step forward. Japan is mafia if Caller is mafia. Someone who Role Claimed is lying. JeeJee, Abenson, and I will all extend the day. I'm going to swap my nukes, Nuke JeeJee, JeeJee will nuke Abenson, and Abenson will swap, then nuke me again, and I will swap and nuke him.
Fun fun. Another 23:59X4.
Plenty of days for you all that haven't of claimed to be dead.
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Also, JeeJee, nuke fell. You claim now. Yes yes?
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oh wait, x5, JeeJee will have a retaliatory strike once I nuke him....Very nice.
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On April 04 2010 16:47 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2010 13:41 JeeJee wrote: fair enough what's your take on his roleclaim? if you believe it why are you lynching a cop? if you don't, why not? I don't believe he is a cop, because frankly anybody can say whatever they want here and not be verified, correct? Caller only shows up in times of dire situation for himself (ie: he's about to be lynched) and then he goes back to... whatever it is he's doing when are you going to r/c jeejee? Caller isn't even here when he's about to get lynched. I don't believe Caller's claim. But every inactive person comes and jumps on the Caller bandwagon.
##Vote Nemy
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How does everyone feel about having Nemy nuke Nikon?
He has many nukes....Yes?
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One suspect nuking another suspect is nice in my eyes....
Also, china only being able to retaliate....hmmm....Seems like kinda a mafia ability...hahaha
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All's quiet on the western front. How's the eastern Abenson? Edit:
one-->on (Devoid of overall content....But I was stating a book, and asking Abenson to post his thoughts.)  =( Sry Ace, don't modkill me. + Show Spoiler +On April 04 2010 21:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: All's quiet one the western front. How's the eastern Abenson? Someone else please post!
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Aye....I see...It's getting awful close to nuking time too...
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Ace if your on and typing the nuke strike post, don't bother...I'm waiting exactly....
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*yawn* Busy building a rather large post incriminating d3, infund, and haster.
Thanks
Also...##Nuke JeeJee
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Think you have to wait for Ace to tell you, for you to send them back to me? Lol...Well I work in an hour, maybe you should hang on to them....At any rate, almost done with the post, compiling a list of vote lists ect. ect. now.
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On April 04 2010 09:59 haster27 wrote: Wow, Ace is being uncharacteristically lazy. The day ends at April 04 23:27 KST.
This is a roleclaim situation -> blue/green colour means confirmed.
d3_crescentia ??? ??? JeeJee ??? ??? ~OpZ~ Canada Mason Caller Egypt Alignment Cop haster27 Portugal Townie Elemenope Vietnam Townie iNfuNdiBuLuM China Townie (only allowed to counter-nuke) Fishball France Tracker laaan Antarctica Veteran Nikon ??? Veteran Abenson United Kingdom Mason nemY ??? Townie
Unclaimed country Japan Sweden Colombia
Unclaimed Roles Roleblocker Nuke-stealer (Colombia) Bus driver Serial Killer
Major Suspects Caller - epic inactivity laaan/Nikon - conflicting testimonies about Veteran ability.
JeeJee might as well be confirmed, Haster. He was the first to mention his nukes being stolen. Ignoring that crucial fact again makes me a little more suspicious of you.
Ya dig.
My thoughts. They are simple. Let me post your list myself real quick, and make some changes.
d3_crescentia ??? ??? + Show Spoiler +On April 03 2010 03:23 d3_crescentia wrote: Dear friends,
I will be off to Italy this afternoon and will arrive there sometime IN THE FUTURE. I'll post my thoughts on this situation then, because there's a lot that strikes me as fishy (no offense, Fishballs). Right...you are taking a while. Stop over at an airport? Do you own a lap top? Come now, come now...where hath thou gone?! Caller said he checked you and you were red...And Nikon's suspected too...Hmmmmm!! Maybe Caller isn't mafia and is selling out mafia?!? Seriously...what if Caller is just that lucky? Still need a claim on that bus driver to validate his story. Also, d3 pops in to ask what vengeful townie is, 33 minutes after the Japan's antinuke is told to us. Hasn't claimed...Maybe Japan? JeeJee + Show Spoiler + I believe JeeJee to be town aligned for several reasons. His posting...Finding few reasons to doubt him at least. Claimed roleblocked and nuke stolen. Nuke stolen confirmed, roleblock
semi ~OpZ~ Canada Mason Caller Egypt Alignment Cop
+ Show Spoiler +He checked two suspects and they came up mafia...Alignment cop is a role ace was talking about in Zona's thread. Just giving the alignment, not the role. Who knows...I suspect d3 and Nikon, why the fuck not. But god dayum caller, come fuckin' post. And all the inactive votes on caller? I smell a nuclear winter coming on... haster27 Portugal Townie (alleged)+ Show Spoiler + Haster was out of me and L that was consistently posting up until the anti-nuke hit Japan. The problem Ace has with anti-nukes...They can be strategic, and if he doesn't post right when he gets one, then there lies a problem...But I dunno...Adds too it....Haster has been extremely helpful in a sense, and active...Defended keeping L early
Elemenope Vietnam Townie + Show Spoiler + Same thing as haster pretty much. He had a long ass post being made when the anti-nuke struck, and the post was made 13 minutes after Ace's post. And that was one long fucking post.
iNfuNdiBuLuM China Townie (only allowed to counter-nuke)
On March 25 2010 11:52 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Oh, looks like Fishball has successfully parried that theory.
On March 25 2010 11:51 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Great Britain has nukes as well, if they're present in the game (probably are)
On March 25 2010 11:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Christ, LOL. ##vote RoL Some gems of wisdom right there. I left out his 2 posts arguing with RoL to justify voting for him. "You nuked Caller and its the towns policy." Let me note, he was active about 1:30 to 2 hours before the caller nuke was scheduled to hit....Japan? Well hell, he might be china, that might be his ability, but I still would suspect that ability on a mafia. Although, clearly what I would expect for abilities doesn't mean much. (Xelin, "would ace really give anon nuke to mafia?" -er- only people it would make sense to give to?)
Oh, I'm hunting Japan...Also, Infund hasn't been much help for anything, and his random pop up to vote, back fishball up, then gone. For a whole day. Which was JUST BEFORE the anti-nuke was launched.
Fishball France Tracker + Show Spoiler +Only things I got on Fishball, I find pretty considerable, Inactive, and voted for L laaan Antarctica Veteran + Show Spoiler +Most believable claim beyond my own. Nikon ??? Veteran I had this wonderful section built against you, you posted just before the antinuke, ect. ect. Nuking Zona, ect. ect, Shit claim...I'm suggesting launching a nuke at you, not lynching you. Just to see if...Well...You are a veteran, yes yes? Abenson United Kingdom Mason nemY Italy Vanilla Townie (Claim)?? We don't believe you, you need more people! Vote lists...with notes 1. + Show Spoiler + "L(7) tree.hugger Versatile Abenson Fishball RebirthofLegend ~Opz~ d3_crescentia
~Opz~(4) Xelin Nikon Elemenope iNfuNdiBuLuM
Abenson(7) Iaaan Zona haster27 johnnyspazz JeeJee meeple Amber[LighT]
Bill Murray(2) Caller nemY - Wtf?"
1)End + Show Spoiler + L(2)
tree.hugger RebirthofLegend
Abenson(1) Amber[LighT]
Rebirthoflegend(15) Zona haster27 Elemenope Nikon Bill Murray ~OpZ~ Iaaan JeeJee Abenson Fishball johnnyspazz d3_crescentia iNfuNdiBuLuM Versatile nemy
Bill Murray(1) Caller
tree.hugger(2) meeple L
Day2 X+ Show Spoiler +elin(8) Versatile Elemenope Infundibulum haster27 Iaaan Nikon Abenson ~Opz~
IIaaan(1) Xelin
Caller(1) d3_crescentia
Worth noting Caller didn't vote, Nemy didn't vote, fishball didn't vote
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Uneditted...Sorry again...But I fucked up the spoiler tags or some shit.
On April 05 2010 00:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 04 2010 09:59 haster27 wrote: Wow, Ace is being uncharacteristically lazy. The day ends at April 04 23:27 KST.
This is a roleclaim situation -> blue/green colour means confirmed.
d3_crescentia ??? ??? JeeJee ??? ??? ~OpZ~ Canada Mason Caller Egypt Alignment Cop haster27 Portugal Townie Elemenope Vietnam Townie iNfuNdiBuLuM China Townie (only allowed to counter-nuke) Fishball France Tracker laaan Antarctica Veteran Nikon ??? Veteran Abenson United Kingdom Mason nemY ??? Townie
Unclaimed country Japan Sweden Colombia
Unclaimed Roles Roleblocker Nuke-stealer (Colombia) Bus driver Serial Killer
Major Suspects Caller - epic inactivity laaan/Nikon - conflicting testimonies about Veteran ability. JeeJee might as well be confirmed, Haster. He was the first to mention his nukes being stolen. Ignoring that crucial fact again makes me a little more suspicious of you. Ya dig. My thoughts. They are simple. Let me post your list myself real quick, and make some changes. d3_crescentia ??? ???+ Show Spoiler +On April 03 2010 03:23 d3_crescentia wrote: Dear friends,
I will be off to Italy this afternoon and will arrive there sometime IN THE FUTURE. I'll post my thoughts on this situation then, because there's a lot that strikes me as fishy (no offense, Fishballs). Right...you are taking a while. Stop over at an airport? Do you own a lap top? Come now, come now...where hath thou gone?! Caller said he checked you and you were red...And Nikon's suspected too...Hmmmmm!! Maybe Caller isn't mafia and is selling out mafia?!? Seriously...what if Caller is just that lucky? Still need a claim on that bus driver to validate his story. Also, d3 pops in to ask what vengeful townie is, 33 minutes after the Japan's antinuke is told to us. Hasn't claimed...Maybe Japan? JeeJee + Show Spoiler + I believe JeeJee to be town aligned for several reasons. His posting...Finding few reasons to doubt him at least. Claimed roleblocked and nuke stolen. Nuke stolen confirmed, roleblock semi
~OpZ~ Canada MasonCaller Egypt [b]Alignment Cop [spoiler] He checked two suspects and they came up mafia...Alignment cop is a role ace was talking about in Zona's thread. Just giving the alignment, not the role. Who knows...I suspect d3 and Nikon, why the fuck not. But god dayum caller, come fuckin' post. And all the inactive votes on caller? I smell a nuclear winter coming on...[/spoiler] haster27 Portugal Townie (alleged)[spoiler]Haster was out of me and L that was consistently posting up until the anti-nuke hit Japan. The problem Ace has with anti-nukes...They can be strategic, and if he doesn't post right when he gets one, then there lies a problem...But I dunno...Adds too it....Haster has been extremely helpful in a sense, and active...Defended keeping L early[/spoiler] Elemenope Vietnam Townie[spoiler] Same thing as haster pretty much. He had a long ass post being made when the anti-nuke struck, and the post was made 13 minutes after Ace's post. And that was one long fucking post.[/spoiler] iNfuNdiBuLuM China Townie (only allowed to counter-nuke)[spoiler] On March 25 2010 11:52 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Oh, looks like Fishball has successfully parried that theory. On March 25 2010 11:51 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Great Britain has nukes as well, if they're present in the game (probably are) On March 25 2010 11:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Christ, LOL. ##vote RoL Some gems of wisdom right there. I left out his 2 posts arguing with RoL to justify voting for him. "You nuked Caller and its the towns policy." Let me note, he was active about 1:30 to 2 hours before the caller nuke was scheduled to hit....Japan? Well hell, he might be china, that might be his ability, but I still would suspect that ability on a mafia. Although, clearly what I would expect for abilities doesn't mean much. (Xelin, "would ace really give anon nuke to mafia?" -er- only people it would make sense to give to?)Oh, I'm hunting Japan...Also, Infund hasn't been much help for anything, and his random pop up to vote, back fishball up, then gone. For a whole day. Which was JUST BEFORE the anti-nuke was launched. Fishball France Tracker[spoiler]Only things I got on Fishball, I find pretty considerable, Inactive, and voted for L[/spoiler] laaan Antarctica Veteran[spoiler]Most believable claim beyond my own.[/spoiler] Nikon ??? VeteranI had this wonderful section built against you, you posted just before the antinuke, ect. ect. Nuking Zona, ect. ect, Shit claim...I'm suggesting launching a nuke at you, not lynching you. Just to see if...Well...You are a veteran, yes yes? Abenson United Kingdom MasonnemY Italy Vanilla Townie (Claim)?? We don't believe you, you need more people! Vote lists...with notes 1. [Spoiler] "L(7) tree.hugger Versatile Abenson Fishball RebirthofLegend ~Opz~ d3_crescentia ~Opz~(4) Xelin Nikon Elemenope iNfuNdiBuLuM Abenson(7) Iaaan Zona haster27 johnnyspazz JeeJee meeple Amber[LighT] Bill Murray(2) Caller nemY - Wtf?"[/spoiler] 1)End [spoiler] L(2) tree.hugger RebirthofLegend Abenson(1) Amber[LighT] Rebirthoflegend(15) Zona haster27 Elemenope Nikon Bill Murray ~OpZ~ Iaaan JeeJee Abenson Fishball johnnyspazz d3_crescentia iNfuNdiBuLuM Versatile nemy Bill Murray(1) Caller tree.hugger(2) meeple L [/spoiler] Day2 [spoiler]Xelin(8) Versatile Elemenope Infundibulum haster27 Iaaan Nikon Abenson ~Opz~ IIaaan(1) Xelin Caller(1) d3_crescentia Worth noting Caller didn't vote, Nemy didn't vote, fishball didn't vote
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On March 21 2010 13:23 Ace wrote: 2.) Alignment Check for sure. No more RCs for now. This is my opinion on how Caller's role is set up. Maybe he actually did hit two mafia? I'm all for nuking Nikon, seeing what he pops, then hanging d3....Maybe Caller just gets lucky as fuck?
No excuse for inactivity, but seriously....are you all ignoring the possibility that he could be legit? Almost everyone has discreditted him, myself included, but going back and thinking about it, what pro-town moves has Nikon done? D3?
I need opinions on whether or not nuking Nikon is the correct way to go, so I say we turn him into a plain of glass...
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