EPTand elected roles again? seriously? :/
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
and elected roles again? seriously? :/ | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:31 flamewheel91 wrote: Two more people needed! The faster we get signups done the faster this game gets on the road. rapido rapido muchachos! | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:32 Ace wrote: just as an aside, Detectives normally don't get results of their checks back until the daytime. I thought all mods knew that? o.0 and elected roles again? seriously? :/ I've seen games where DTs get their checks back quickly, such as Caller's last game when he returned the results of the check promptly. I'd assume as such that it should be that everybody gets actions responded to simultaneously, since that brings fairness to this time cycle-based game. I recall when browsing the TL mafia guidelines and tips topic, I think I saw mention of the BG/elected official thing. I've not read a game on TL (haven't read them all) besides BC's XVI where both the elected officials survive not getting lynched. Because in past games elected officials were immune to role checks, inherently the town is suspicious of them. Furthermore, I've read about the problem that is tedium: needing to kill bodyguards before being able to strike at the elected roles. With the bodyguards being chosen anonymously and randomly (and there is never any incentive for a BG to give up his role) it would be very hard to hit bodyguards and would be a 'waste' of mafia firepower. With this setup, I'm attempting to alleviate these problems some. Having elected officials open to role check is just something new I'd like to try, and it forces the DTs to make another choice when choosing who to role check, and how to announce it. With Bodyguards instead being the ones who are immune, the town will be more suspicious of them, and it raises a cat-and-mouse game between the mafia and medics. It's not a perfect solution, mind you, but I just want to give the non-immune elected roles and pedestal bodyguards a whirl. So sorry if you're disappointed :/ | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
more people o.o When is it gonna start O.O | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:31 flamewheel91 wrote: Thank you, Abenson. And you're finally not a drone. And I still am. I like this. Actually... after checking your profile, I realized you registered precisely 26 days after I did Therefore you're about to evolve as well O.O | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:48 Abenson wrote: Actually... after checking your profile, I realized you registered precisely 26 days after I did Therefore you're about to evolve as well O.O In about a month, I think. I don't mind being a drone. Watch me end up like Konadora with his 22+k posts and still a ghost. | ||
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Abenson
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:53 Abenson wrote: Is it ok to crown myself the "happy spammer/1-line poster of TL Mafia" ? It might eventually get you fried. Edit: Plus, you already did. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Having any role that takes a lot of effort to kill is going to be hard to balance imo unless they are a third faction role that has to have it to survive. If lets say...a Detective gets Mayor or Pardoner they should instantly roleclaim. Kill the bodyguards if you want but now we've got Medics too! Medics prot bodyguards. Bodyguards cant be killed. So now its back to find the doc syndrome. Except when you kill the doc, now you can kill the bodyguards. And if both of them don't die you've just tattled on your Mafia buddy. So how does the Mafia stop that? | ||
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Zona
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Zona
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:53 Ace wrote: The problem with elected officials is that after a while it gets stale and adds to more behind the scenes playing. Mayors that know their BGs in old games technically gave the town a group of Masons (pure ownage). Having any role that takes a lot of effort to kill is going to be hard to balance imo unless they are a third faction role that has to have it to survive. If lets say...a Detective gets Mayor or Pardoner they should instantly roleclaim. Kill the bodyguards if you want but now we've got Medics too! Medics prot bodyguards. Bodyguards cant be killed. So now its back to find the doc syndrome. Except when you kill the doc, now you can kill the bodyguards. And if both of them don't die you've just tattled on your Mafia buddy. So how does the Mafia stop that? Eh, I agree with you on all those points. Though all I can say is give it a whirl, who knows. Plus, if the medics are indeed protecting the bodyguards then the rest of the town is open to snipes. (cat-and-mouse scenario, again.) Either way, I can see how things can become tedious for the mafia, but as a relative newcomer, personally I find the elected roles add a bit more fun into the game. On March 10 2010 10:04 Zona wrote: I'd like to play in this one. I sat out caller's game if that makes any difference. I think that's fine. Please actually post this game, unlike in XVIII. An extra Vet could've helped the town a lot  On March 10 2010 10:07 Zona wrote: Oh, you also have Bill Murray on the player's list twice. One of him is...interesting enough. But two? Oops, thanks. Edit: TWO MORE PERSONS NEEDED. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Just letting you know ahead of time this is hella broken but o well ^_^ | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 10 2010 10:14 Ace wrote: Well erm...even if the rest of the town is open to sniping an unkillable DT is going to rape face. Worse if the DT also gets 3 votes v_v Just letting you know ahead of time this is hella broken but o well ^_^ Mlah, I got the suggestion from a few of the other higher-ups and it sounded good to me. If it really does turn into a game-breaking strategy then we'll know what not to do for future games, da? Also I lolled at the phrase 'rape face.' | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:32 Ace wrote: just as an aside, Detectives normally don't get results of their checks back until the daytime. I thought all mods knew that? o.0 and elected roles again? seriously? :/ Detectives have been getting the results of their rolechecks back as soon as the mod sees the rolecheck request since like forever. I honestly can't think of a game where DTs got the rolechecks back at the end of the night before this one. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On March 10 2010 09:53 flamewheel91 wrote: It might eventually get you fried. Edit: Plus, you already did. How? TT.TT | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Your signature. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 10 2010 10:29 Abenson wrote: I meant by how it'll get me fried Read the rules.  | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 10 2010 10:24 Qatol wrote: Detectives have been getting the results of their rolechecks back as soon as the mod sees the rolecheck request since like forever. I honestly can't think of a game where DTs got the rolechecks back at the end of the night before this one. It was like that from way way way back. I've only been a DT once on TL so I didn't know mods were doing that. Technically no one is supposed to talk at night. So if a cop gets an RC during the night before it ends it kinda screws the Mafia over. Hence even if the Cop dies that night his information still got out. If they get their information back before night ends then they are daytime cops and should be called as such. | ||
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