EPTBloodyC0bblers's Mafia XVI - Page 28
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
Day 1 + Show Spoiler + One night in a town of Liquiville, there came a strange event. An event of history and would lead many people to bewilderment. The sheriff Ace however was on the case. Journeying to the docks by the beach, he answered the cries of a persons shriek. What he found however, was a trail of blood. Following it straight to a cave, he saw a body at its opening, tenderly embraced by the incoming tide. Rushing to the persons aid, he turned the body and knew it was grave. A quick check of the pulse, and he knew it was done, L would fail to see the coming sun. MAFIA 1 Picking up the body, he turned to make his way back to town, and failed to see the figure step behind him. With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground. His mind raced towards the possibilities of what happened, and he reached for his gun. But before he could begin, the figure drew overtop of him and the sheriff was done. Across town in his mayoral office, vx70GTOJudgexv sat at his desk. He was busy signing new laws for the town when he heard a crash outside his door. Getting up and exiting into the hall, he began to search for the sound. As he explored the nearby rooms he moved back to the hall and made his way back towards his office. It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. MAFIA 2 Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor. When the town awoke from their slumber, they found the three bodies lying in the town square. Knowing that they were not safe, they began to hold an electoral race. It was here that the town began to be reshaped. Day 2 + Show Spoiler + The night was a memorable one. It was a night of valiant struggle. The records show it began sometime after 1 am in the bowling alley. Toplexa, and i10f were out playing a late night game, to kill most of the night. The knew better to indulge their vices in liquor this night. The also knew better than to have their back to the doors. They were on watch the entire night, they figured that would be enough. They figured wrong. The heard screams coming from outside the building, and quickly drew their guns and moved slowly outside. MAFIA 3 When they emerged they witnessed itspaul charging a figure in the shadows who had some long object in his hands, one that quickly blocked itspauls clumsy attack and quickly counter attacked and killed the man. toplexa drew his rifle to his shoulder and began to fire rounds at the figure, but was too late, the mafia was already gone. nodding to his partner, they both began to creep into the night, looking to catch the killer they had just seen. That was the mistake however. MAFIA 4 As they approached the town center, they noticed someone drawing something technical on one nearby store walls. Gazing over his shoulder, the man stopped, and quickly fired two shots and ran for cover. Toplexa went one way, and i10f went another. Unfortunately for Toplexa, he never made it into position.MAFIA 5 He was stopped partway by a man with a long blade. Raising his rifle to shoot the man, he watched almost hypnotically as the man performed some odd formations in the air with his blade. When the blade finished moving, toplexa dropped dead. His lifeless eyes gazing in the direction of his friend. Had he been able to see, he would have seen i10f lifeless eyes staring back at him. Descriptions: Mafia 1: Quick attack, Figure "drew overtop him" We don't have alot of description about this guy besides the Quick attack (if this means anything) Mafia 2: Broken Flower Vase, "rush of air", something sink into his shoulder There seems to be alot more clues about this guy, but besides d3, we haven't really connected him to anyone else Mafia 3: "Long object", "figure in the shadows", "quickly blocked", "quickly countered", This mafia didn't actually kill either of them which could be a clue, he could also be the same as Mafia 1 who had a "quick attack" (which may indicate quickstriker) He could also be the same as mafia 2 because both of their weapons are mentioned but never said exactly what they are. Mafia 4: "drawing something technical", "fired two shots" "ran for cover" There are some clues about this mafia, but we have no clue what drawing something technical means, AGAIN this mafia didn't kill any of them Mafia 5: Long blade, "hypnotically", "odd formations in the air" This guy could potentially also be mafia 2 because of the mention of air again, but I think he is a new mafia | ||
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dozko
United Kingdom160 Posts
For the record Im also not convinced QS is mafia and we should be weary of people jumping on lynchwagons too quickly without posting any arguments. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
On January 25 2010 02:20 d3_crescentia wrote: Problem: References to 'quick' are as vague as ever, since we don't know which mafia member could be attacking. The clues will have to be MORE telling than simply adjectives. Conjecture: None of the killers from last night were the same from the night before. I agreed with the first statement at first, but looking back, the adjective quick is used several times in both day1/2 posts. Maybe its still nothing, but I'm at least considering it now. But if this second statement is correct, then looking at the use of the word quick is invalid. But I don't think its necessarily right. I think at this point, I think we shouldn't lynch Quickstriker, but definitely don't forget about him. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
on page 51 of the other game, they are pretty epic in proving innocence. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On January 25 2010 04:34 Iaaan wrote: But if this second statement is correct, then looking at the use of the word quick is invalid. But I don't think its necessarily right. I think at this point, I think we shouldn't lynch Quickstriker, but definitely don't forget about him. Yes, I don't believe it's necessarily the truth either, but I am fairly certain that many of today's clues would have referenced other mafia members seeing as there are seven of them. I think that the clues are arranged to be deliberately confounding at this point in time. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20009 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 25 2010 05:39 decafchicken wrote: I think quickstriker could be mafia going off the clues, but at the same time referencing "quick" in both days seems too easy...or is it? Rest of the clues i have no fuck about, so i'll probably end up voting for quickstriker, and double voting for the next highest number of votes on a person if enough people are double lynching. You follower, I really suspect you being a mafia. First you lie when you join the game, But, I don't have enough evidence yet to say this with a 100% sureness. Another person I really think might be fishball. Since both of you show up at random times. Not only that, fishball is the only person with a Dark Templar in his name. If you guys have ever watched that SC2 trailer with the DT jumping and doing somersaults all over the place, it reminds me of the clues that they left for us. Not only that DT's have blades. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 25 2010 02:20 d3_crescentia wrote: dozko, we have to vote TO HAVE a double lynch before we can actually do it on the next day. A brief PM conversation I had with BC. Read from bottom up: Problem: References to 'quick' are as vague as ever, since we don't know which mafia member could be attacking. The clues will have to be MORE telling than simply adjectives. Following is from an older game (Mafia VII) where the mafia won. BC so kindly revealed the clues and whom they pointed to: And also: And for reference, BC's explanation of how they were associated: These are the kinds of things we should be looking for in clues. As such I'm now concerned more about the method of death and other random clues, and wondering if we can link both of the Day 1 and Day 2 clues together to see if they are suggesting the same or different people (which I believe is more of the case). Each killer will likely be distinct from each other as far as clues go. We know that the first reference to quick was simply an attack, but the second was two quick shots - which are associated with a technical drawing. We also have a mafia with a long object, a mafia with a blade (and strange motions), a person who was near a cave/shoreline, and a person associated with the flower vase. Conjecture: All of the mafia will have acted at least once by Day 3, and at least two of them will have acted twice. Conjecture: None of the killers from last night were the same from the night before. I believe that it follows that it is unwise to lynch QuickStriker currently, simply because the adjective 'quick' was used twice. We don't know how Ace died - it could have been shots or stabs or some bizarre martial arts blow, and the fact that it was quick shouldn't be as big as people are making it. One more thing: we currently have 23 townies and 7 mafia. This is a difference of 16 people, or 4 more days of killing people assuming we all hit townies each time, and that there are no vigis/medics active. Using a double lynch once will take us down to 3 days, but if we do it twice in a row (or even not) there will still be three days left. I encourage everyone to vote for a double-lynch tomorrow at the very least. Good post. I always welcome people with different point of views that actually makes sense. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20009 Posts
On January 25 2010 05:57 ShoCkeyy wrote: You follower, I really suspect you being a mafia. First you lie when you join the game, But, I don't have enough evidence yet to say this with a 100% sureness. Another person I really think might be fishball. Since both of you show up at random times. Not only that, fishball is the only person with a Dark Templar in his name. If you guys have ever watched that SC2 trailer with the DT jumping and doing somersaults all over the place, it reminds me of the clues that they left for us. Not only that DT's have blades. Lol i was being sarcastic because Ace said there was a lot of newbies or something and i've played like 2-3 games with him. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 25 2010 05:39 decafchicken wrote: I think quickstriker could be mafia going off the clues, but at the same time referencing "quick" in both days seems too easy...or is it? Rest of the clues i have no fuck about, so i'll probably end up voting for quickstriker, and double voting for the next highest number of votes on a person if enough people are double lynching. That's is actually what I'm thinking too. It just seems a little bit too easy. I recall in previous Mafia games, ShadowDrgn keeps getting lynch because of "dark shadow, flame" clues in those games, but every time, he was just an innocent townie. Poor thing... This would also make sense that I couldn't relate the "long object in hand" clue to QS. If what d3_crescentia stated were true, the clues in Day 1 and Day 2 would be pointing to two different people instead of the same one. With that being said, the "quick" and "figure" clues are still on the table which I don't mind taking a shot at. The second guy that I would like to keep an eye on would be IloveKt, as stated on page 26, and brought up by a couple others as well. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
23 players left, 7 Mafia, 16 Townies. With 2 Vigilantes and a Detective dead, we pretty much have to ace every single lynch, and Medics would have to make the right choices every night. What makes it even worse, is that BC said half the blues are inactive... | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On January 25 2010 07:41 Fishball wrote: To be honest, the chances of the town winning is pretty slim. 23 players left, 7 Mafia, 16 Townies. With 2 Vigilantes and a Detective dead, we pretty much have to ace every single lynch, and Medics would have to make the right choices every night. What makes it even worse, is that BC said half the blues are inactive... You're pretty much right. As I've said before, we have 4 days left in the game if we continue using our single lynches, and 3 days even if we use both of our double lynches - but this is only speaking in terms of survival. We can maybe buy another day if the medics are successful in predicting/covering mafia hits, but they have to be 100% perfect. If we manage to hit at least 2 mafia in the next few days then by my count we should have another day on top of that. Double-lynching will give us a better chance to accomplish that, even if we lose extra townies. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On January 25 2010 07:50 Iaaan wrote: If you look at Quickstrikers profile pic, it could be a 'technical drawing,' and maybe could fit with some of the other clues depending on what anime character it is, I don't know tho. This is a stretch. I've seen the anime in question and would be more convinced if there was a chess or strategist metaphor. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 25 2010 07:50 Iaaan wrote: If you look at Quickstrikers profile pic, it could be a 'technical drawing,' and maybe could fit with some of the other clues depending on what anime character it is, I don't know tho. I would link the "technical drawing" clue to something more technical, eg: - RoyW An enginner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_W._Brown - Jonoman92 Profile quoting "sMi.Arcology" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcology Just another approach you guys might want to take a look at. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On January 25 2010 08:18 Fishball wrote: I would link the "technical drawing" clue to something more technical, eg: - RoyW An enginner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_W._Brown - Jonoman92 Profile quoting "sMi.Arcology" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcology Just another approach you guys might want to take a look at. I remember looking up the definition of arcology before Day 2 and threw it out because it wasn't relevant to Day 1 clues. Now things have changed. I think there is a substantial connection here to either of these two players, though I feel the RoyW connection is a bit weaker. Overall I do think it's better than most of the other clue-linking attempts we've made so far. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
And I think that is actually a pretty good connection to Jonoman92, and also RoyW maybe. Both of them have been mostly lurking, but still voting, and I think that RoyW is either dumb, or he's just been coming in the thread with accusations to make people angry at each other. and I think anyone who does that is bad for the town. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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