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Let's see here...
Direct clues are highlighted
Day 1
One night in a town of Liquiville, there came a strange event. An event of history and would lead many people to bewilderment. The sheriff Ace however was on the case. Journeying to the docks by the beach, he answered the cries of a persons shriek. What he found however, was a trail of blood. Following it straight to a cave, he saw a body at its opening, tenderly embraced by the incoming tide. Rushing to the persons aid, he turned the body and knew it was grave. A quick check of the pulse, and he knew it was done, L would fail to see the coming sun. Picking up the body, he turned to make his way back to town, and failed to see the figure step behind him. With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground. His mind raced towards the possibilities of what happened, and he reached for his gun. But before he could begin, the figure drew overtop of him and the sheriff was done.
Across town in his mayoral office, vx70GTOJudgexv sat at his desk. He was busy signing new laws for the town when he heard a crash outside his door. Getting up and exiting into the hall, he began to search for the sound. As he explored the nearby rooms he moved back to the hall and made his way back towards his office. It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor.
When the town awoke from their slumber, they found the three bodies lying in the town square. Knowing that they were not safe, they began to hold an electoral race. It was here that the town began to be reshaped.
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Now a look at Day 2
Day 2
The night was a memorable one. It was a night of valiant struggle. The records show it began sometime after 1 am in the bowling alley. Toplexa, and i10f were out playing a late night game, to kill most of the night. The knew better to indulge their vices in liquor this night. The also knew better than to have their back to the doors. They were on watch the entire night, they figured that would be enough. They figured wrong. The heard screams coming from outside the building, and quickly drew their guns and moved slowly outside. When they emerged they witnessed itspaul charging a figure in the shadows who had some long object in his hands, one that quickly blocked itspauls clumsy attack and quickly counter attacked and killed the man.
toplexa drew his rifle to his shoulder and began to fire rounds at the figure, but was too late, the mafia was already gone. nodding to his partner, they both began to creep into the night, looking to catch the killer they had just seen. That was the mistake however. As they approached the town center, they noticed someone drawing something technical on one nearby store walls. Gazing over his shoulder, the man stopped, and quickly fired two shots and ran for cover. Toplexa went one way, and i10f went another. Unfortunately for Toplexa, he never made it into position. He was stopped partway by a man with a long blade. Raising his rifle to shoot the man, he watched almost hypnotically as the man performed some odd formations in the air with his blade. When the blade finished moving, toplexa dropped dead. His lifeless eyes gazing in the direction of his friend. Had he been able to see, he would have seen i10f lifeless eyes staring back at him.
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Below, I've associated clues with the Mafia which I think are the same person. Please keep in mind these clues could very possibly be pointing at different Mafia members and not like how I listed below. The ways of how I interpreted the clues could also be false. Please think before agreeing/disagreeing.
Mafia 1:
As we can see from the two days of clues, there are repeated clues pointing "The Figure". "The Figure is a Mafia that is very fast. Among all the players, I cannot help but think "QuickStriker".
In his profile, he has Lelouch as his profile picture. Lelouch is also called Zero, which is the main figure head in the anime, Code Geass.
However I haven't been able to relate the "long object in his hands" clue to him.
Mafia 2:
A Mafia that was drawing something technical on the walls.
Seems like an anxious, careful person as he gazed over his shoulder, shot and ran for cover.
Mafia 3:
A man with a long blade.
By reading the clues, it seems like he is one of those Samurais (long blades) that you see in Manga/Animes that would attack so fast with his blade as if he were slicing the air, then his target would be killed right after with some slight delay. At least this is the impression I got.
Mafia 4:
The person that killed vx70GTOJudgexv in Day 1.
Right before it happened, vx70GTOJudgexv heard a crashing sound. In Day 2, Toplexa, and i10f heard screams. Sound related clue or just BloodyC0bbler's writing, I'm not sure, but something we should definitely take a look at.
"A rush of air" clue is associated with this Mafia as well.
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I've went through all the player's profile once, and Quickstriker is the only one that pops right out in my head. If there isn't another better candidate proposed, or if I haven't found anything new, I would vote to lynch QS first. However, keep in mind, I wasn't able to link the "long object hands" clue to him.
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i went to softer's profile and this quote stood out to me
Visualize success, but dont believe your eyes
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Okay, so again looking at fishballs post, the trends I see are quickness in both days, noise/sound/soundwaves in the first day, and the long blade/samurai/ninja in the second day.
The 'Drawing something Technical" bit could also refer to anime, as fishball mentioned a few times, or maybe some sort of artist/architect profession.
It might also make sense if there are the same number of clues in both days. maybe not tho o:
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and just because I think it might be relevant, I will post some stuff about the voting.
fulgrim - 3
tree.hugger
itspaul
decafchicken
d3_cresentia - 5
Fishball
Dozko
softer
i10f
johnnyspazz
It could mean nothing, but the Mafia could have killed these people (itspaul and i10f) to show that it wasn't the Mafia voting for Cresentia/fulgrim, when they really were. But that said, The mafia would have been aiming to get someone in the position of mayor, so looking at the votes for tree.hugger:
tree.hugger - 3
d3_cresentia
~opz~
no_re
This is who everyone thought would win, as he had 4 votes before i changed mine. I changed my vote to try to screw things up because like I said, I think the Mafia would have wanted the Mayor position the most, and the Mafia thought tree.hugger would have won (which he did) since he was in the lead. Any more votes for him would have caused a tie for sheriff, and at that point in the game, we didn't know what would have happened in a tie. Again with wanting the position of mayor, the Mafia could have voted for Cresentia in order to put them ahead of their candidate.
So all that said, at this point the people I suspect the most are Softer and Johnnyspazz for bumping up cresentias votes towards the end, ~Opz~ for voting free tree.hugger, tree.hugger for being mayor (again because the mafia would want this position, and the mafia should have thought tree.hugger would win), and Quickstriker for the clues (which Fishball outlined, and I also think the line "Drawing something technical" points to his profile.)
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oh and also, tree.hugger, softer, and johnnyspazz also voted for the same person as the ones that died, and the reasoning behind killing Itspaul and i10f could be to make it look like none of the Mafia were voting for cresentia/fulgrim when they were (so again softer, tree.hugger, and johnnyspazz)
and also the people who abstained:
abstain - 6
jonoman92
quickstriker
shindigs
Xelin
jadefist
Velkanknight
The reason the Mafia would abstain is because since cresentia was at 5, and tree.hugger at 4, and the other people were at 2/3, so they didn't need any more votes.
The reason a townie would abstain is because they just don't know who to vote for.
And incase someone asks: Iaaan, if you thought tree.hugger was mafia, why didn't you bump someone elses vote up to 4 instead of causing a tie? Its because then, by my own logic, I would consider myself to be Mafia, cause going right at the end and choosing exactly who I want to be mayor, the position that is best for the Mafia to have would again, by my own logic, make people think I was Mafia.
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and last things I can think of right now before I leave for a few hours: The "Broken flower vase" could point to cresentia, but It could also point to tree.hugger, because his name has a tree in it. And IIRC his picture if a dude from Dr.Seuss who's species lived on a flower, but then the flower got destroyed. so that could also point to tree.hugger, although I don't think a ton of emphasis should be put on clues, just that they should be used to support suspicion.
And you guys should all read my posts, I think I made some good points that you should all read, consider, then take apart any flaws in my logic, or say if you think its reasonable. I am going to vote to lynch Johnnyspazz for the time being, since he was the last person to vote for Cresentia. But to you specifically Johnnyspazz, I ask you not to get angry at me for this, but if I'm wrong, prove to me that I am.
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and srsly read my walls of txt.
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My analysis of the day 2 clues. The bold ones are the ones I think are the most significant.
1) Quickstriker + Show Spoiler + - The figure may refer to the chess piece in the picture of his profile, as in a chess figurine.
- "Object in his hands" although the piece is not "long", it is being held in the hands of the character
- Note how the guy in his picture is slightly tilted to one side and it could be said he is "looking over his shoulder". Also those large expressive , jap art eyes can easily be linked to the "gaze", "eyes gazing"
2) iplaythings+ Show Spoiler + - The murdered were playing a "late night game"
3) drinking + Show Spoiler + - Note he joined TL on the 31 of December. I would classify this as a pretty memorable night.
4) softer + Show Spoiler + - In his profile quote: "Visualize success, but dont believe your eyes. I think this matches up really well with the quote from the narration "They were on watch the entire night, they figured that would be enough. They figured wrong."
5) no_re + Show Spoiler + - They played a bowling game, but it was their last one since they got pwnt by the killers and therefore will never be able to regame.
6) shockeyy + Show Spoiler + - Look at his profile pic. He's got the red eye effect in the photo, which makes his eyes look very expressive due to the black background. I believe this could be a reference to the "hypnotized" gaze in the narration, as his eyes look very menacing and hypnosis is usually done with a strong eye contact.
Out of the bolded ones I believe the clue towards drinking is the most believable, since it is not very obvious but it still is not too far fetched. However the clue towards softer is very strong since we have a match of a whole sentence.
Given that both these have had clue references in day 1 (i.e. the water for drinking and "tenderly" for softer) i currently believe that these two are the most likely to be mafia.
Therefore I will vote for softer to be lynched for now, unless i hear some convincing arguments in his defense, since he has not replied in his defense to my day1 post stating the "tenderness" clue and he generally is keeping a low profile, but people should keep an eye on drinking as well since his clue is very persuasive IMO.
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Well then, I feel so much better now after taking a breeze outside the entire day. God, that was indeed a nightmare yesterday.... (referring to MSL finals that never occurred in the first place. Yes, I am in denial, stage 1 of grief)
Now, I have looked at the past posts, especially made by fishball and laaan whom both does make a good point in terms of highlighting and picking parts of the text for clues. I do applaud for that. I strongly suggest everyone to look over and think to yourselves of making conclusions of who you think the mafia might be, as well as, share your input to the matter.
What I want to say now isn't a repeat of what others have said above me. As I mentioned previously in regards to checking what the dead people statements were before they died, and also who they voted and etc, toplexa's post really got to me back earlier in the thread. His situation was something that also got me in my mind. He was a replacement of someone who dropped out of this game, and as soon as he came in, it as seem he had make an account in TL just to play this game, as his first post ever in his account was in fact, in this game. He outlined statements that others haven't really looked at, and before you know it, he was found dead the next day. Toplexa wasn't able to explain himself fully of the context of the text he picked that was different from what others saw, as most have just seen the 2 words of the text mostly as "Quick attack" as of refers to me. However, toplexa highlighted something different and did not highlight that 2 words of the text. Everyone, I strongly suggest to take a look at what I am trying to point out and what toplexa have pointed out, as I feel there might be a connection between a clue and lead to a possible mafia.
I have to be going now since I have a dinner appointment at T.G.I. Fridays so I will be back later if anyone posted or I'll post more with exactly what I want to say in regards to that and also another matter that includes our mayor and sheriff that could be deemed possible suspicion...
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Sound clues IF they are clues, possible link:
IloveKt
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I also suggest the possibility of using our town powers of "Double Lynch" for Day 3. We cannot use that now as rules state we gotta vote on it first before using the ability in one day advance. I'm sure by Day 3, we will have more clues and leads of who the mafia might be. That is my final food for thought for couple of hours.
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On January 24 2010 09:57 dozko wrote:My analysis of the day 2 clues. The bold ones are the ones I think are the most significant. 1) Quickstriker + Show Spoiler + - The figure may refer to the chess piece in the picture of his profile, as in a chess figurine.
- "Object in his hands" although the piece is not "long", it is being held in the hands of the character
- Note how the guy in his picture is slightly tilted to one side and it could be said he is "looking over his shoulder". Also those large expressive , jap art eyes can easily be linked to the "gaze", "eyes gazing" 2) iplaythings + Show Spoiler + - The murdered were playing a "late night game" 3) drinking + Show Spoiler + - Note he joined TL on the 31 of December. I would classify this as a pretty memorable night. 4) softer + Show Spoiler + - In his profile quote: "Visualize success, but dont believe your eyes. I think this matches up really well with the quote from the narration "They were on watch the entire night, they figured that would be enough. They figured wrong." 5) no_re + Show Spoiler + - They played a bowling game, but it was their last one since they got pwnt by the killers and therefore will never be able to regame. 6) shockeyy + Show Spoiler + - Look at his profile pic. He's got the red eye effect in the photo, which makes his eyes look very expressive due to the black background. I believe this could be a reference to the "hypnotized" gaze in the narration, as his eyes look very menacing and hypnosis is usually done with a strong eye contact.
I've said before that I think clues should just be used to confirm other suspicions, not be the suspicion itself. But that said, I dont think any of these are significant/fit, except maybe the Shockeyy one and MAYBE just MAYBE the softer/quickstriker ones. but probably not.
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On January 24 2010 09:35 toplexa wrote:
): gg
GG, buddy. Hate to see you go so soon after you just joined. =[
A few points that I'd like to bring up...
Fishball: I like your post, though I cannot help but notice that your current icon is a Dark Templar, who is known for hiding in the shadows and swinging blades at people. What is particularly interesting to me at this point is the phrase "performed some odd formations in the air."
I agree that there seems to be a connection with the air clue and feel that this is the same person as Day 1 who killed Judge then. My suspicion lingers on iloveKT, from the following post:
I voted for Xelin just so I wont be branded as inactive and maybe be modkilled. I was away for the last couple of days. Reason for voting Xelin: I dont think he can win. lol.
We are currently down to 23 townies and 7 mafia. I will be voting to use a double-lynch on Day 3 and encourage everyone else to do so.
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In relation to toplexa's underlined clues, can anyone make sense of them? I mean he didnt really articulate and I cant seem to come up with anything. They might be important given he was killed for his only analysis post, when no_re (like toplexa) made a single analysis post, has been silent since then and was not killed.
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I agree with Cresentia actually, iloveKT could be mafia. and I agree with using double lynch as well. I'm not suspicious about fishball at the moment tho, but nice connecting his icon to the clues.
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On January 24 2010 10:29 d3_crescentia wrote:GG, buddy. Hate to see you go so soon after you just joined. =[ A few points that I'd like to bring up... Fishball: I like your post, though I cannot help but notice that your current icon is a Dark Templar, who is known for hiding in the shadows and swinging blades at people. What is particularly interesting to me at this point is the phrase "performed some odd formations in the air." I agree that there seems to be a connection with the air clue and feel that this is the same person as Day 1 who killed Judge then. My suspicion lingers on iloveKT, from the following post: Show nested quote +I voted for Xelin just so I wont be branded as inactive and maybe be modkilled. I was away for the last couple of days. Reason for voting Xelin: I dont think he can win. lol. We are currently down to 23 townies and 7 mafia. I will be voting to use a double-lynch on Day 3 and encourage everyone else to do so.
I see these "Dark Templar" references almost every game, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Keep in mind the guy with the blade was not standing in the shadows whatsoever, but was visible.
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On January 24 2010 10:17 Iaaan wrote:
I've said before that I think clues should just be used to confirm other suspicions, not be the suspicion itself. But that said, I dont think any of these are significant/fit, except maybe the Shockeyy one and MAYBE just MAYBE the softer/quickstriker ones. but probably not.
I disagree with you on this laaan. I think clues should be the primary factors which generate suspicion, since we have them black on white and we know they lead to the mafia. In contrast it is much harder to judge whether a post is a clue or giveaway since it is easy for people to obscure their roles. Therefore I believe it is better to create suspicion from the narration and then verify it with posts.
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Okay that's fine, but I just think that at this point clues are less reliable, because we don't know for sure what exactly are clues, and even if we do, we can still interpret them wrong.
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On January 24 2010 11:05 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 10:29 d3_crescentia wrote:On January 24 2010 09:35 toplexa wrote:
): gg GG, buddy. Hate to see you go so soon after you just joined. =[ A few points that I'd like to bring up... Fishball: I like your post, though I cannot help but notice that your current icon is a Dark Templar, who is known for hiding in the shadows and swinging blades at people. What is particularly interesting to me at this point is the phrase "performed some odd formations in the air." I agree that there seems to be a connection with the air clue and feel that this is the same person as Day 1 who killed Judge then. My suspicion lingers on iloveKT, from the following post: I voted for Xelin just so I wont be branded as inactive and maybe be modkilled. I was away for the last couple of days. Reason for voting Xelin: I dont think he can win. lol. We are currently down to 23 townies and 7 mafia. I will be voting to use a double-lynch on Day 3 and encourage everyone else to do so. I see these "Dark Templar" references almost every game, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Keep in mind the guy with the blade was not standing in the shadows whatsoever, but was visible.
Just by looking at the players names, only VelkanKnight can be associated with blades directly.
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