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I have decides to run for sheriff/mayor. I originally had planned not to, since I'm kind of a noobie to Mafia, but now I have some reasons:
1. I'm sure that the Mafia will try to get at least one of their members elected into a position of power, that's an opportunity they would not want to pass up. It seems a bit silly for me to say this, but I am not a Mafia, and I think its most important that someone who isn't a Mafia gets elected. I'm sure we are all playing to win, so we as townies,want to make sure we have a townie as mayor/sheriff. (even though I'm sure the Mafia will think the same way... but still)
2. I plan to be reasonably active, so that's always good o:
3. I like to think I'm a logical thinker, I won't get emotional about things, but I will look at how people interact/support each other (especially with the voting, of course the Mafia will want to place their votes on their own candidate), and try to figure out who both the mafia are, as well as the detectives, because obviously their input is important.
4. The Mafia will want to kill the people suspicious of them, or who look they they have the best chance of figuring out who they are. So if I get elected, I will not only post whatever I think, but if you want to message me with something that could get you killed, I will pass that on for you, since I have protection, I can say anything I want.
5. I do not think that activity determines ones role, if someones wants to be active, they will be no matter what role that is. That said, completely inactive people are kinda boring, and you cant really tell much about them if they don't actually post anything, unless it comes through the detectives. So, if get the position of Mayor, right now my plan is to kill someone with no posts, unless there is evidence that suggests that someone is a Mafia member, however I don't know how much there can be before DT's start checking people, there are more deaths, and more people most.
6. I will keep my mind open, but I will still draw my own conclusions. The Mafia will try to influence us, and as such, I will consider peoples ideas, and incentives, as if they were a member of the Mafia, as well as a if they are a townie. Much more can be learned if we look at both points of views.
7. I don't want to get killed by the Mafia lulz.
So yeah, vote for me!
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I like your way of thinking and campaigning laaan. Much better and organized from other candidates, going from straight to the point and reasons. I would like for all the other candidates to follow this example and give their own determination, statement, and most importantly, their methods/thinking in order to be elected. Props to you laaan for taking the real initiative!
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Thx ^^
But again, all voters need to look carefully at the candidates (Me, Crescentia, Fulgrim, Xelin, and Tree.hugger so far) posts, and who supports who. If a Mafia gets one of those positions, especially Mayor, they will pretty much 100% kill a townie on the first day, and the power of 3 votes is pretty big, with all the Mafia together, they would have 8 votes, and used all together that is pretty big (about 1/4th of the population at the start, and it will continually grow), especially if they is indecision in the voting.
So be careful!
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On January 21 2010 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 05:44 XeliN wrote:
Our Mafia game is so inactive compared to the other one, its a shame rlly. we're superior
Oh yes.
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On January 21 2010 09:15 flamewheel91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 21 2010 05:44 XeliN wrote:
Our Mafia game is so inactive compared to the other one, its a shame rlly. we're superior Oh yes.
grrrr, go back to where you came from!!!!!! We no haz room for the likes for you other town townies!!! This is our town!!!
That being said, despite our slowness and inactiveness compared to the other town, I will proud to say, WE ARE SUPERIOR! ^_^
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I realized... we have a total votes of 5 people for the election in contrast of like over 20 on the other mafia game...... a bit sad imo...
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Hmm, I don't like this whole vote for me thing. Seems fishy, and especially the way he words it. He tries to win you over, so he can make sure he wins. I like his style no lie. But I won't be able to vote for him. Laaan, sorry, but my vote remains the same.
All you out of towners better stay in ya'll wreckin area. We don't like you hippie folks round hea.
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Hey guys I hate not being able to check the thread during the day..... I was thinking about what our plan was to try and win this thing because currently (I haven't had time to read all of the posts yet) we seem to be focused on WHO we are electing. We also need to think about who we want our DT's to role check (assuming they check the thread often enough) and how they can communicate any information they get without giving away their role. The whole thing kind of gives me a headache... ANYONE could claim to be a DT and so it would be hard to tell whether they were really a DT or just trying to screw us over. Ideas anyone?
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I like your campain Iaaan, very organised.
But i would like to hear who do you plan on linching on the first day if you're elected as a mayor.
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On January 21 2010 00:55 d3_crescentia wrote:Checking up on people with large postcounts for veterancy using the search feature... ~OpZ~ - TL Mafia II, III JoxxOr - TL Mafia II, Ace's Mafia World decafchicken - TL Mafia II, III l10f - Pyrry's Mafia Game Fishball - a lot of them (II, III, V, VII, and more) QuickStriker - TL Mafia VII I know there are plenty of people who have played mafia with relatively smaller postcounts. I'll come up with those as soon as I feel up searching through 29 more names. At any rate, these are people with posting histories that we can maybe sort of guess about their posting history/behaviors. Also... a discrepancy (for the lulz, I'm guessing): + Show Spoiler +On January 20 2010 04:52 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 04:48 Ace wrote:
I think this game is almost all new players, or at least 75% are. The game you linked was quite complex but yea you'll get the gist of Mafia reading that.
The wikipedia article is also a great source of basic information. i've never played before! Oh decaf, you... person.
Randomly picked a candidate before reading the thread, but I like you, so I'm changing my vote to you.
This is actually my first time checking this thread, so just going through the pages right now.
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On January 21 2010 09:41 Fulgrim wrote:
Hey guys I hate not being able to check the thread during the day..... I was thinking about what our plan was to try and win this thing because currently (I haven't had time to read all of the posts yet) we seem to be focused on WHO we are electing. We also need to think about who we want our DT's to role check (assuming they check the thread often enough) and how they can communicate any information they get without giving away their role. The whole thing kind of gives me a headache... ANYONE could claim to be a DT and so it would be hard to tell whether they were really a DT or just trying to screw us over. Ideas anyone?
Well no one has said they're dt, so we're not that subject just yet.
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And I don't like the idea of not lynching ayone until we're 100% sure.
The thing is, we're never going to be, the game will revolve around making guess and playing a bit with each others to try to get the maximum info for the big guess.
Basically, not lynching anyone sets the town back and gives the iniciative to the mafia players since I guess the mafia is more likely to target the most active posters. So hopefully the medics are good at guessing who's going to be attacked.
First day is more likely to lynch an honest civilian, but it almost always does.
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Well no one really can admit they're DT UNLESS they're looking for a death wish. I mean if the DT steps up and admit to himself he's the DT, what do you think will happen? The mafias will auto-target that person and before we know the results of the role check or clue check, he's dead. Bam, gg. So obviously whoever is DT is hidden and cannot reveal as the DT but must act as part of the crowd, as the regular ordinary townie citizen.
That being said, I think the best case for the people running for positions is to state who they do wish to use their first lynch one as that the most important case right now.
Now, I want to move back to the DT matter and note that for DT, there are only 2 role checks you can do and UNLIMITED clue checks. If you look at the rules, that's what it said with explanation. To maximize and help the DT, I gave some suggestions back in previous pages on how to take onto this matter but I'll repeat again in a simple short manner. For the first night, I recommend the DTs to get one post that sums up all clues, have that post checked using "clue check" rather than role check wasting the precious limited uses you can for that. They must suggest and lead the way to the town in which direction this game must go to, and have evidence and reason without revealing you are a DT to everyone, or else you're dead. It's like in the anime deathnote. If Kira sees you, you're going to get written on the notebook and bam. GG. So be wary of that.
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On January 21 2010 09:49 SagaZ wrote:
And I don't like the idea of not lynching ayone until we're 100% sure.
The thing is, we're never going to be, the game will revolve around making guess and playing a bit with each others to try to get the maximum info for the big guess.
Basically, not lynching anyone sets the town back and gives the iniciative to the mafia players since I guess the mafia is more likely to target the most active posters. So hopefully the medics are good at guessing who's going to be attacked.
First day is more likely to lynch an honest civilian, but it almost always does.
The mayor thing, we have no choice of. The mayor HAS TO lynch someone, so if anything, it should be for the best interest of what everyone thinks and suggest who the mafia is.
However, the only reason I suggest that is the cost of risk if we happen to incorrectly vote who the mafia is and instead end up with a dead DT or medic or anything who's important. The initial clues right now is too vague and we need more leads. That's why I suggested 2-3 days wait but now, I'm going to suggest perhaps only one day skip instead because it may be harder to end up with 6-9 people dead. But there will be that much more clues given.
The point is, this game will end if there are more mafias than townies. There are 7 of them and the rest are 27. So even with 7 of them gone (1 from mayor and let's say we give up 6 of them for their killing), there will still be 20 townies strong standing to go up against 7. Their powers of killing work based on their number divide by 2 and rounded up but max is 3. So they can kill 3 right now. If we can at least reduce that to 4, they can only kill 2. And 2 will mean 1. But right now, I can't come up with other solutions but to wait until for more clues. If the clues are obvious or if the clues can actually lead up to a single lead, that would be the next step, deciding whether to lynch him during the day or not...
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On January 21 2010 09:52 QuickStriker wrote:
Well no one really can admit they're DT UNLESS they're looking for a death wish. I mean if the DT steps up and admit to himself he's the DT, what do you think will happen? The mafias will auto-target that person and before we know the results of the role check or clue check, he's dead. Bam, gg. So obviously whoever is DT is hidden and cannot reveal as the DT but must act as part of the crowd, as the regular ordinary townie citizen.
That being said, I think the best case for the people running for positions is to state who they do wish to use their first lynch one as that the most important case right now.
Now, I want to move back to the DT matter and note that for DT, there are only 2 role checks you can do and UNLIMITED clue checks. If you look at the rules, that's what it said with explanation. To maximize and help the DT, I gave some suggestions back in previous pages on how to take onto this matter but I'll repeat again in a simple short manner. For the first night, I recommend the DTs to get one post that sums up all clues, have that post checked using "clue check" rather than role check wasting the precious limited uses you can for that. They must suggest and lead the way to the town in which direction this game must go to, and have evidence and reason without revealing you are a DT to everyone, or else you're dead. It's like in the anime deathnote. If Kira sees you, you're going to get written on the notebook and bam. GG. So be wary of that.
This is why I have voted for you. I like that you're already trying to help us newcomers and win the game. If you were to be a mafia, you wouldn't be doing this. Back to lynching XeliN
Notice he hasn't posted since I called him out!
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Directed at fulgrims point, about thinking about who to role check, as well as DT's and everyone else, the biggest thing we have for our DT's at the moment are the clues. as murders happen and we start seeing connections between peoples posts there will be more things to consider in the future, but as of right now I think the biggest thing we have are the clues. so, I pulled out the most comprehensive posts concerning them:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2010 04:01 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 03:47 dozko wrote:With regards to the first murder (L's) why is it people have so hastily concluded there are no clues? To my eyes we have references of docks and tide i.e. sea/ocean, which might be a clue pointing towards FishballAlso "Following it straight to a cave, he saw a body at its opening, tenderly embraced by the incoming tide." There is a player called softerThese may be a bit too straightforward, but surely they are worth some consideration? Also since both of these guys have yet to post; it will be good to hear their opinions on the matter. Thanks for the enlightening post. I didn't mean to say that the first murder contained zero clues, just that there was nothing as far as manner of death goes. At the same time, I simply wasn't picking up on things. As for water-related things, there's also drinking. What makes me doubt, though is that the section is written in segments of both prose and poetry. My thought is that the prose would indicate what the real clues were, so you might be right about the tender-softer connection. Of course, I could be completely off-base with the poetry/prose thing, so...
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2010 18:03 d3_crescentia wrote:Hi everybody, I'm glad to be in this game of TL-Mafia. Some thoughts/analysis... Show nested quote +One night in a town of Liquiville, there came a strange event.
An event of history and would lead many people to bewilderment.
The sheriff Ace however was on the case.
Journeying to the docks by the beach, he answered the cries of a persons shriek.
What he found however, was a trail of blood. Following it straight to a cave, he saw a body at its opening, tenderly embraced by the incoming tide.
Rushing to the persons aid, he turned the body and knew it was grave.
A quick check of the pulse, and he knew it was done, L would fail to see the coming sun.
Picking up the body, he turned to make his way back to town, and failed to see the figure step behind him. With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground.
His mind raced towards the possibilities of what happened, and he reached for his gun. But before he could begin, the figure drew overtop of him and the sheriff was done.
Across town in his mayoral office, vx70GTOJudgexv sat at his desk. He was busy signing new laws for the town when he heard a crash outside his door. Getting up and exiting into the hall, he began to search for the sound. As he explored the nearby rooms he moved back to the hall and made his way back towards his office. It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor.
When the town awoke from their slumber, they found the three bodies lying in the town square. Knowing that they were not safe, they began to hold an electoral race. It was here that the town began to be reshaped. The lines that are bolded are written in prose. The lines that are not make some attempt to rhyme. I feel that the prose lines contain the clues, though it could be the other way around. For the most part, I agree with no_re's preliminary judgments - the broken flower vase, the "quick attack" - though I think that we're going to need more analysis overall to figure things out. Also, there's that bit about the cave by the shore... more in a later post. Truthfully, though, I think we'll end up learning a lot more about people once elections are underway.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2010 13:09 QuickStriker wrote:
Now, I also want to just to throw out another simple facts out there:
List of names who have absolutely nothing on profile (meaning no pics and sig) :
Xelin
RoyW
ItsPaul
dozko
laaan
Rainbow
Jadefist
7Strife
no_re
Gaizka
Man.Magic
johnnyspazz
That is 12 people total out of 34 people. That's quite a bit of nothing on profile compared to the other game that has 6...
*edit* Now mind you that if according to the rules of this game, it is sorta illegal to switch and edit your profile the moment this game started.... so I have complied this just to imply that if any one of the 12 changes their profile, they will and can be automatically marked suspicious....
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2010 12:52 no_re wrote:Well hi everyone, my first mafia game, not entirely sure how it works so bare with me if Im doing it wrong, however relating to the "clues" posted everyday here is what I got from the above entry. My first thought when dissecting the post was this rather obvious quote: A quick attack? Well with a player named QuickStriker in the game this looks like a kind of obvious clue. Also he was the first to respond to the first Sheriff Candidacy anouncement of Fulgrim, drawing attention to himself being "amused" by Fulgrim's "I'm not a mafia" comment. This intruiged me. Secondly the death of vx70GTOJudgexv: Show nested quote +It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor. The only name with a reference to flowers would be d3_crescentia, Crescentia being Show nested quote +Crescentia (Calabash tree, huingo, krabasi, or kalebas, not to be confused with the calabash vine) is a genus of six species of flowering plants in the family Bignoniaceae Also in d3_crescentia's profile the quote is "once, not long ago, there was a moon here", and the murders being committed at night, when the moon is up? Yea I think this connection is a little thin, but I'm thinking out loud here. p.s. am i doin it rite?
Obviously you should read all the posts as they occur, but if your lazy you can look at these spoilers...
and also
On January 21 2010 09:44 SagaZ wrote:
I like your campain Iaaan, very organised.
But i would like to hear who do you plan on linching on the first day if you're elected as a mayor.
As of right now, if I get elected I plan to lynch the least active person, unless there is a solid reason for lynching someone else.
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and thank god i got all those spoilers/quotes right since I can't edit them ;p
They aren't in order tho, and I might have missed a few points, but still, good to get them in one place i think o:
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On January 21 2010 10:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 09:52 QuickStriker wrote:
Well no one really can admit they're DT UNLESS they're looking for a death wish. I mean if the DT steps up and admit to himself he's the DT, what do you think will happen? The mafias will auto-target that person and before we know the results of the role check or clue check, he's dead. Bam, gg. So obviously whoever is DT is hidden and cannot reveal as the DT but must act as part of the crowd, as the regular ordinary townie citizen.
That being said, I think the best case for the people running for positions is to state who they do wish to use their first lynch one as that the most important case right now.
Now, I want to move back to the DT matter and note that for DT, there are only 2 role checks you can do and UNLIMITED clue checks. If you look at the rules, that's what it said with explanation. To maximize and help the DT, I gave some suggestions back in previous pages on how to take onto this matter but I'll repeat again in a simple short manner. For the first night, I recommend the DTs to get one post that sums up all clues, have that post checked using "clue check" rather than role check wasting the precious limited uses you can for that. They must suggest and lead the way to the town in which direction this game must go to, and have evidence and reason without revealing you are a DT to everyone, or else you're dead. It's like in the anime deathnote. If Kira sees you, you're going to get written on the notebook and bam. GG. So be wary of that. This is why I have voted for you. I like that you're already trying to help us newcomers and win the game. If you were to be a mafia, you wouldn't be doing this. Back to lynching XeliN Notice he hasn't posted since I called him out!
If he were a Mafia, he would want to get townies on his side, as not to get lynched. There is what, a 1/5 chance for any person to be Mafia? There are no ground to rule anyone out yet. Everyone should be aware of accusations of peoples roles and the meaning behind them, weather the poster has a good basis behind their judgment, or if they have another purpose for posting, to stir townies up and set them against each other, or any other reason.
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On January 21 2010 10:08 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 10:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:On January 21 2010 09:52 QuickStriker wrote:
Well no one really can admit they're DT UNLESS they're looking for a death wish. I mean if the DT steps up and admit to himself he's the DT, what do you think will happen? The mafias will auto-target that person and before we know the results of the role check or clue check, he's dead. Bam, gg. So obviously whoever is DT is hidden and cannot reveal as the DT but must act as part of the crowd, as the regular ordinary townie citizen.
That being said, I think the best case for the people running for positions is to state who they do wish to use their first lynch one as that the most important case right now.
Now, I want to move back to the DT matter and note that for DT, there are only 2 role checks you can do and UNLIMITED clue checks. If you look at the rules, that's what it said with explanation. To maximize and help the DT, I gave some suggestions back in previous pages on how to take onto this matter but I'll repeat again in a simple short manner. For the first night, I recommend the DTs to get one post that sums up all clues, have that post checked using "clue check" rather than role check wasting the precious limited uses you can for that. They must suggest and lead the way to the town in which direction this game must go to, and have evidence and reason without revealing you are a DT to everyone, or else you're dead. It's like in the anime deathnote. If Kira sees you, you're going to get written on the notebook and bam. GG. So be wary of that. This is why I have voted for you. I like that you're already trying to help us newcomers and win the game. If you were to be a mafia, you wouldn't be doing this. Back to lynching XeliN Notice he hasn't posted since I called him out! If he were a Mafia, he would want to get townies on his side, as not to get lynched. There is what, a 1/5 chance for any person to be Mafia? There are no ground to rule anyone out yet. Everyone should be aware of accusations of peoples roles and the meaning behind them, weather the poster has a good basis behind their judgment, or if they have another purpose for posting, to stir townies up and set them against each other, or any other reason.
Oh course I can be doing this for the good will and solely so I can win the game and not lose. I'm a sore loser and I really hate seeing the town moving in such insignificant manner where they cannot figure out some the simplest basic things around. And regardless of whether or not I'm mafia, I am doing this because the game must go on in a way victory cannot achieve so easily but not impossible as well. So that's that according to this part.
As I repeated myself again and again, be wary of the candidates of the election as I am certain at least one of them is mafia trying to be a mayor. Should such event happen, the game will be in automatic disadvantage for the townies and chance of victory becomes slim to none. But it is not impossible. However, as much as I like challenges, I also like easy big wins so once again, make sure you get everything of their info, intentions, and mindset of these candidates before you make your votes and choose them.
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Lastly, I strongly recommend all members of this town to take a look and carefully read through from page 4 (the start of the game) to now in order to fully grasp and understand the current situation. Look carefully at what some people say, how and what some people may be thinking, and etc.
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