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Qatol
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motbob
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 05 2009 11:06 Qatol wrote: Umm Paramedic - You have the ability to prevent one hit per night on a player of your choice, besides yourself, during the night. Each paramedic can only stop one hit and as such if the number of mafia is greater than the number of paramedics on a player then that player will die. You will know if you saved the person and the target will know if he was saved. However, the town will know nothing of the event. If you are protecting a veteran, and they are hit, your ability supercedes theirs.  I see that edit on the first page. You can't get cute with me. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Your role is: Paramedic You can watch one player per night, cancelling out the first hit on them if the mafia, a Mad Hatter, or a Vigilante should try to kill them. If you make a save, your target is informed that they were saved and you are informed that you made a save. The game begins with the Day 1 post; it should be up in less than an hour. Sooo... we're supposed to read both the role PM and the OP to be extra sure what our abilities are? | ||
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Qatol
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L
Canada4732 Posts
From: RebirthOfLeGenD [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: O_o Date: 11/4/09 12:33 The rules actually don't state that I can't protect myself, so I guess I will try. The timing of the edit as a reaction to Rebirth actually trying what was said, as well as the fact that I personally checked indicate a conspiracy. I guess rebirth tried but didn't tell me he was told otherwise. Still, I'm fucking angry. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
>: | fucking cockpenisdong I'm going to go fucking install borderlands and shoot shit to calm down. | ||
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Qatol
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On November 05 2009 11:06 Qatol wrote: Umm Paramedic - You have the ability to prevent one hit per night on a player of your choice, besides yourself, during the night. Each paramedic can only stop one hit and as such if the number of mafia is greater than the number of paramedics on a player then that player will die. You will know if you saved the person and the target will know if he was saved. However, the town will know nothing of the event. If you are protecting a veteran, and they are hit, your ability supercedes theirs. In all fairness you edited that in WITHIN the last day. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On November 05 2009 12:09 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: In all fairness you edited that in WITHIN the last day. Ah I didn't know Ver was dealing with this. Too bad you didn't ask me about it. I would have let you prot yourself with this ruleset. Either way, I will make a not-so-graceful exit from this argument now and leave Ver to the wolves. | ||
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Ace
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On November 05 2009 13:18 Qatol wrote: Ah I didn't know Ver was dealing with this. Too bad you didn't ask me about it. I would have let you prot yourself with this ruleset. Either way, I will make a not-so-graceful exit from this argument now and leave Ver to the wolves. I had PM'd him about it during the game. I don't think this information affects the current game state so it's ok to post right?. This is what he said: From: Ver [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: question Date: 10/30/09 09:26 no ----------------------------------------- Original Message: can i protect myself | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
I think everyone can see how letting medics prot themselves in such a game would be blatantly unfair for the mafia (and there definitely wouldn't have been 2+ medics). If we were going to change such a staple, it would be specified that you could do so like the pardoner being able to pardon the first lynch or mafia being able to kill themselves changes were. It was simply an error in proofreading that wasn't caught until very recently. Continue on with the game then please. | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
Who knew of both medics the entire time? L and Shikyo.... They---the medics---died double fast and shouldn't have.. they're---L and Shikyo---far better suspects than Amber. Yes, I screwed up our "3rd-party" Shikyo verification, but you try not being emotional when you realize you've "lost" someone you love... kthx Now I think it's easier to lynch Shikyo now, I check L at night and post that (as they will kill me since we have no medics, so it's my last check).. if Shikyo comes back as red after the lynch, then we know L is GF so I won't check him, if Shikyo has that 20% chance to come back as DT, than we will know L is the GF. Nothing else makes sense to me. Something I'd like to point out... Shikyo hasn't responded to claims recently and has been steadily talking less.. and L isn't defending himself either. On of them is the GF, and one or both are red. So this is basically the last day for me, hope town can be more affirmative, but until I see otherwise, I'm going with what I think. Keep in mind, I've thought Shikyo was red/GF from day 1... just sayin' | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
8. Amber[Light] (BG 2/2) <-- Publicly known as BG now 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- Sorry excuse for a mayer 10. L <-- Claimed as Vet (I call bs) 11. Tricode <-- Was checked during a quick fit of rage 12. Vivi57 <-- Came back Green 14. Sugiuramidori (DT 2/2) <-- So going to die now, I hope Qatol gets to kill me, he knows what I wanted for my death 16. Shikyo <-- Came back DT 18. Motbob 19. Redtooth <-- Came back Green Bold == a RC was involved. EDIT=Added strikeout to RoL | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On November 03 2009 12:47 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Since then Shikyo has supposedly missed his second Check, so we don't have a second person to work with (this is unlikely since Ver/Qatol were stalling days for night actions and kept announcing that they were waiting) he then says his third check was on BC, who he most likely knew was a bodyguard. After SugDori checked Shikyo then confirmed her sanity with Qatol. She got back that Shikyo was indeed a Detective (or from what it looks like at this point) a godfather. Now this all looks particularly bad for Shikyo, but the only inconsistency is L. I believe both me and Sugdori have been talking to L, no real conversation for me has taken place with Shikyo. So as far as I know, L could be making all that up which makes Shikyo look bad. However I don't think that is likely. Shikyo's checks to my knowledge have shown L as a Veteran and BC as a Bodyguard. I haven't gotten information on any other checks yet. Scamp turning Green was a third. Gee... I wonder how Shikyo could have gotten all of them right with out being a dt? | ||
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L
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The problem, however, is that there aren't 2 possible GFs. There are 9. I used to think GFs could only pretend to be a blue role and that you were 100% confirmed legit because RoL blocked a hit on you and that you knew something that I didn't about shikyo via pms, which is why I thought there was something behind the "its gotta be amber/shikyo/L" statement. Turns out, however, that none of the above are true. I always wondered why mafia would hit a target when I specifically made it pretty clear in the thread that you were going to get protected that night. I just talked to Qatol and it seems that mafia can target their own players for hits, meaning that the hit after chez died could have been a pretty easy method of fucking with the medic, especially after chez got raped and they needed a trump to counteract that. Additionally, the godfather can flip green, yet there's been pretty much zero talk of any of the green players being the GF despite this being pretty much the exact play that chezinu made in the first game where he brought this brown crap in. Seeing as he's part of the mafia, it would make sense for him to advise someone else to do the exact same 'green and keep your head down' strategy. That's not even to accuse you, but to show you that there are 9 possible people who could be godfather, including yourself, if we look at all the options, yet you've arbitrarily decided that its shikyo and me while casually brushing off the fact that you've once again delayed getting shikyo confirmed. As for who knew RoL was the medic; I specifically told RoL to claim something else (vig/hatter) and that he shouldn't have pseudo claimed in the thread. I also told him to protect himself (which sadly, as you've seen above, turned out to not work). From the timing of the PMs and the edit, when I told him that I wanted him to protect himself, it was prior to the rules being errata'd, which I wasn't even aware of until Qatol linked them. I did more than anyone else in the game to keep RoL alive through this night. RoL fucked up when, to satisfy Scamp's curiosity, he let out that he knew everything that was going on in our PM ring. See, because with that piece of information, someone could mosey on over to your list and wonder why a green with no checks on him would know all that stuff. If he's in our ring, someone checked him, or he claimed/was confirmed as blue. Add 1 + 1 and any mafia who was looking for the medic knew he was the only role we hadn't revealed to that point: the last medic. Gee... I wonder how Shikyo could have gotten all of them right with out being a dt? The first two were claimed before shikyo said he checked them. He reacted to my claim about being a vet, and then didn't answer me until halfway through the next day when I asked him about his BC check. By then he could have learned about his role from RoL, sugi, pyrr or BC himself, since he claimed it in the thread prior to shikyo PMing me back. Scamp being anything but green when shikyo knew all of the identities of the blues at that point via our ring would have been very hard to accept, but even if he was wrong, he could have blamed the difference to his DT alignment, since he had only checked blues up until then. Zero of his checks involved any risk. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
He has been questioned multiple times and we have done nothing about the suspicion on him. There is only 2 mafia and 1 kp left, but yet the mafia hasn't given up. Meaning the GF has to be a very good vet player or a determined stubborn one. Another thing is Shikyo like stated above, was able to R/C L / BC / and Scamp and got all those roles correct. How is that possible with out being DT? RoL and Inf, were both medics at points where both have had suspicions of L. On November 03 2009 09:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Several things. And from what it sounds like, Infundi was suspicious of L claiming medic because he figured he was the only medic. Which makes sense. Then you show that you know there must be two and that the other medic is just sending in his actions quicker than Infundiblium was. I mean if I was a medic and I saw someone claim that he got protected I would be suspicious at least in such a small game. However when he tried to protect sugdori and she was saved and it wasn't by him, he should of realized the second medic was with L, but I feel like he forgot why he thought L was suspicious and just kept going with that and just added some confusion into the mix. | ||
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Tricode
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Pyrrhuloxia
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