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It looks like I'm about to be killed by indifference. Such is this game. RoL especially because he's stated, in a manner of speaking, that he does not think I'm a top-3 suspect. Yet he still has his vote on me so I'll die. But I'm also willing to bet that there are others that are just unwilling to change their vote for whatever reason. So let's be frank here.
Why is there no discussion in this thread? I've been awfully critical of L, but the fact remains that he has generated no discussion other than to reply to reply to what I've said. I'll admit I haven't taken the time to make sure that everything I've said is perfectly accurate, but he still hasn't really discussed anything on his own in the thread. There's no need for him to be secretive if he is who he says he is.
But it's not just him. Pyrr has been incredibly silent too. It would have been nice if he could have at least said that my PM to him exists, because it does. Was the death of infundibulum a coincidence or a lucky guess? Did he talk to anyone besides me about being the medic? Did Pyrr pass the info I gave him on to anyone else? I sure don't know because he's not saying anything.
Of course if Pyrr is mafia then he bussed his own mafia member hard for no reason and reduced the mafia's KP by 1 by doing so.
The point is that whatever is leading the town is leading it nowhere. I thought progress was going to be made quickly, but apparently the plan is to sit around and do checks to find one mafia and one godfather. And if that's the case, then there was no need for the double lynch.
If I am to die soon, all I ask is that you do not clear L and Sugiura right away. Again, this is Farfetched theatre, but consider it. The mafia was just reduced to 1 KP and is in dire straights. They need a way to clear themselves beyond a shadow of a doubt in order to live, otherwise the DTs will pick them off easily. They have a medic in their pocket, so they put out a hit on their own member and have the medic protect. No counter claim to the one hit so it must be true.
Again, this is Farfetched. So a few things needed to happen. But there's only one real reason why this scenerio isn't quite plausible.
Sugiura claimed DT and the evidence that Redtooth and Vivi were the same role before Chezinu died. If my scenerio is true then either Sugiura (and company) is a lucky guesser or there was some way to know this. Or maybe there is no way to tell unless one of them died, clearing the other. There was a near instant push on Vivi so if Vivi flipped townie then Redtooth would be cleared. Maybe only Redtooth is mafia.
One thing is for sure, though. Sugi wrote a seemingly angry post about how she'd given us two confirmed mafia but we were voting for Chezinu anyway. I'll go find it. Here it is.
On October 28 2009 18:29 SugiuraMidori wrote:
All right.. I really don't understand wtf you guys are doing now.. I give you two confirmed mafia and you run off and vote for Chez.. just because he's a brown-noser doesn't mean his brown obsession needs to cloud your judgments on the obvious truths laid out upon you :/
If Vivi is voting for Chez, he clearly knows Chez isn't red, as who else would vote for a teammate so early on in the day? PUH-LEAZE~
Oh by the way, this is before she confirmed her sanity.
Amber is coasting like crazy.
Anyway, this was all good fun to type out in case I get killed here.
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Scamp, it was also before I was reminded that I was being a fool at not looking at the logistics of the probabilities of how I could possibly have checked the last two living reds xD
After that I stopped the whole rant against vivi and red and realized they were more likely town than red, unless one is the GF (just as unlikely).
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Well this was when there were three living reds but yeah, I understand the scenerio is unlikely.
Also it seems L of all people just voted to help keep me alive while I was writing that long thing. Will wonders never cease!
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Scamp did PM me to say he was suspicious of infundibulum but that quickly became useless because infund died and turned blue.
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On November 03 2009 13:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Not to put a hole in your plan and I'm just saying this to speculate to the moron mafia team who didn't think of this awesome plan on Day 1 but wouldn't it have been a good idea for the mafia to originally make a member of their crew a bodyguard and give him the godfather rule, thus allowing him to pick the bodyguard role and forever stay hidden? It's what I would have done.
I definitely hadn't thought about that. Way to shoot yourself in the foot!
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On November 04 2009 09:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Scamp did PM me to say he was suspicious of infundibulum but that quickly became useless because infund died and turned blue.
I had to check the PM I sent you. Re-reading it, I didn't really make it clear as to the intent of the PM. It was more so that someone had the info that Infun claimed medic and protected L the night he claimed he got hit and protected by a medic.
I wasn't fully convinced, though, that Infun wasn't just using me to go after L.
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On November 04 2009 10:08 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2009 09:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Scamp did PM me to say he was suspicious of infundibulum but that quickly became useless because infund died and turned blue. I had to check the PM I sent you. Re-reading it, I didn't really make it clear as to the intent of the PM. It was more so that someone had the info that Infun claimed medic and protected L the night he claimed he got hit and protected by a medic. I wasn't fully convinced, though, that Infun wasn't just using me to go after L.
So there are two possibilities I see from this....
Mafia noticed my list where I said I was damn sure Infun was blue if L was... OR
Pyrr or you knew and nuked him to make it so I no longer had protection for future nights, as I'm clearly a hamper to mafia having a sure-fire win.
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Also, Scamp, thanks for the vote of confidence ;_;
I will remember this!!!
but alas, night is 'bout over, and unless mafia comes out swinging their bats, it looks like Shikyo and HoE will be riding the Styx tonight.
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On November 04 2009 10:08 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2009 09:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Scamp did PM me to say he was suspicious of infundibulum but that quickly became useless because infund died and turned blue. I had to check the PM I sent you. Re-reading it, I didn't really make it clear as to the intent of the PM. It was more so that someone had the info that Infun claimed medic and protected L the night he claimed he got hit and protected by a medic. I wasn't fully convinced, though, that Infun wasn't just using me to go after L.
Oh sorry you're right. Since your PM I have found out that there was another medic protecting L that had sent his PM in at the very start of the day so that part of L's story checks out. Unless the person who claimed medic to me is lying.
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Well there's also the way he's been arguing in the thread alongside me to go after L, as well as a few other things. But yeah, the scenerios you mentioned work too. Plus I don't know if he PMed anyone else. If he's willing to PM me it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
I get to sleep now.
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Yeah Scamp didn't say he was suspicious of infundibulm at all he told me infundibulum claimed medic to him.
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On November 04 2009 09:57 Scamp wrote:
Well this was when there were three living reds but yeah, I understand the scenerio is unlikely.
Also it seems L of all people just voted to help keep me alive while I was writing that long thing. Will wonders never cease!
I know you're green but your death gives Shikyo his confirmation. If he dies, there's no point for you to die as well.
Mostly I'm just seeing if someone's got the balls to switch the vote up again.
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But sadly it tells us nothing if you're the one that switches things up.
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About the voting:
Voting has ended at 10 KST except for Pyrr. He asked me something right before the deadline and it took me a bit to answer and I told him that he could vote after he got my answer (about mayor votes). Unfortunately it seems he is having connection problems or something as he keeps going online and offline so I won't wait much longer.
edit: L's vote counts too since I had to delay it anyway and his earlier misvote was because I messed something up in the vote counts.
Sorry for all the trouble guys
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To do list for next game: Get a script for this shit.
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On November 04 2009 10:36 Ver wrote:
About the voting:
Voting has ended at 10 KST except for Pyrr. He asked me something right before the deadline and it took me a bit to answer and I told him that he could vote after he got my answer (about mayor votes). Unfortunately it seems he is having connection problems or something as he keeps going online and offline so I won't wait much longer.
edit: L's vote counts too since I had to delay it anyway and his earlier misvote was because I messed something up in the vote counts.
Sorry for all the trouble guys
Yeh, Pyrrs votes should count for 2, even in a double lynch.. so that adds 1 for each of those columns.. might want to change the counts to reflect that.
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Pyrr notified me that he only wants to use 1 vote each.
I did screw up the voting stuff sorry guys but in the end I believe everything works out.
HoE and Scamp are being lynched post up in a sec.
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On November 04 2009 10:55 Ver wrote:
Pyrr notified me that he only wants to use 1 vote each.
I did screw up the voting stuff sorry guys but in the end I believe everything works out.
HoE and Scamp are being lynched post up in a sec.
Since when is that ever been allowed..................? Last I heard, when Qatol was telling me he forgot about it, was that ALL his votes count double because he's mayor.. and it doesn't even say in the game rules that they can choose to deny that 2x rule... so srsly.. WTF
If it is, then that's bullshit, and we lynch Pyrr next.
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On November 04 2009 10:58 SugiuraMidori wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2009 10:55 Ver wrote:
Pyrr notified me that he only wants to use 1 vote each.
I did screw up the voting stuff sorry guys but in the end I believe everything works out.
HoE and Scamp are being lynched post up in a sec. Since when is that ever been allowed..................? If it is, then that's bullshit, and we lynch Pyrr next.
Well considering it happened on day 2 and nobody pointed it out/cared except Pyrr (Qatol and I had genuinely forgot then, I simply have messed up today)....
Mayor has always had the option of using their votes how they wanted. They just almost never specified to not use their extra votes. Pyrr was equally confused as well by his votes counting for less/more than what he wanted since we screwed up several times and didn't clarify it before.
The entire problem of the delayed lynch was that I am overtired and blind and didn't realize that Pyrr had already voted.
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Night 5
Heavonearth and Scamp were dragged out to the firing range. Heavonearth muttered something about how he didn't care after Ace died and was promptly shot for his lethargic behavior. Scamp valiantly tried to defend himself but his cries were cut short by the sound of muskets.
Innocent Townies Heavonearth and Scamp have died.
Night will last until 10 KST tomorrow. Please send all actions to me.
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