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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 02 2009 03:21 GMT
#1161
I think it should be Scamp and HeavenOnEarth. We all know that we need to be active to understand everybody in this game and in my opinion being quiet puts you in the hot seat. I've said this before and I'll say it again being inactive in this game especially is bad.

I'm on the fence about Scamp I just feel like he was providing mis-information, and once night hit he was nowhere to be found. (two days ago) He made one post and was gone again. I don't think this is the best reason to vote for someone to lynch but of the candidates to get lynched he is definitely part of my top 2.

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 02 2009 05:04 GMT
#1162
On November 02 2009 12:21 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think it should be Scamp and HeavenOnEarth. We all know that we need to be active to understand everybody in this game and in my opinion being quiet puts you in the hot seat. I've said this before and I'll say it again being inactive in this game especially is bad.

I'm on the fence about Scamp I just feel like he was providing mis-information, and once night hit he was nowhere to be found. (two days ago) He made one post and was gone again. I don't think this is the best reason to vote for someone to lynch but of the candidates to get lynched he is definitely part of my top 2.


Pot. Kettle. Black?

I would appreciate it if you would gladly show what mis-information I provided.

Also I have more information to reveal, but before that I think L said that he found someone who was caught lying? Ah yes, here it is.


On November 02 2009 02:28 L wrote:
I'm rather busy sorting through a lot of information in PMs regarding roleclaims and DT checks and whatnot, but I'm pretty sure I've found someone who is flat out lying.

Will post a bit more after I finish showering and getting my thoughts in order.


So were you wrong on this? What were you thinking?


On November 02 2009 01:07 motbob wrote:
Yes, which is exactly what I said. L2Mafia


I'm trying, but it's hard. A lot of people here have played together a lot and often the posts come in flurries.
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SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 05:39:36
November 02 2009 05:38 GMT
#1163
Disregard this fail on my part.. nothing to see here.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 02 2009 06:18 GMT
#1164
So were you wrong on this?
I wasn't. Sugi partially dealt with the problem in her longish post so i left it at that. We'll have more information after the next set of night checks.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
November 02 2009 06:30 GMT
#1165
Here is a quickly cumulated no-vote history report...


Day 1 (Mayor/Pard)
L
Scamp

Day 2
L
motbob

Day 3
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.

Day 4
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Redtooth
Heavonearth


All I really want to mess with atm, need sleep.. get to work town!
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 02 2009 14:58 GMT
#1166
I voted day 1, Qatol or Ver is a retard and didn't take me off the no vote list after I voted. i even said that like 2 posts after the vote.

I'd be dead if I missed 2 votes.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 02 2009 15:40 GMT
#1167
On November 02 2009 23:58 L wrote:
I voted day 1, Qatol or Ver is a retard and didn't take me off the no vote list after I voted. i even said that like 2 posts after the vote.

I'd be dead if I missed 2 votes.

Ver is your retard, don't lump me in with the likes of him!
In all seriousness, L voted for Ace late day 1 and Ver forgot to take him off the "No Vote" list when he added him to the "Ace" list.
Uff Da
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 02 2009 19:51 GMT
#1168
On November 03 2009 00:40 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 23:58 L wrote:
I voted day 1, Qatol or Ver is a retard and didn't take me off the no vote list after I voted. i even said that like 2 posts after the vote.

I'd be dead if I missed 2 votes.

Ver is your retard, don't lump me in with the likes of him!
In all seriousness, L voted for Ace late day 1 and Ver forgot to take him off the "No Vote" list when he added him to the "Ace" list.

Ok lol, ( o II )b
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 20:17:20
November 02 2009 20:16 GMT
#1169
Alright so who to lynch? Lets take a look at our list. of living people.


1. Dreamflower Mad Hatter -Night 2
2. Foolishness -Night 1
3. Ace Detective Pardoner -Day 2
4. vx70GTOJudgexv -Night 2
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler Bodyguard
7. Incognito -Night 2
8. Amber[Light] Amber is a BG confirmed from pyrry behavior looks a little shaky. He should be checked.
9. Pyrrhuloxia Mayor Hes our mayor, most likely was a townie originally. His voting was instrumental for killing Chezinu
10. L Hes our Vet most likely I can't see him being mafia really. but who knows? as we continue to kill we will narrow it down
11. Tricode Hopefully we kill him tonight, we can't be sure of his role. Been pretty quiet after elections
12. Vivi57 Used as Sugiramidroi's check, doubtful godfather candidate.
13. Infundibulum medic dead
14. Sugiuramidori Detective, confirmed sanity, was hit a few nights ago and it was blocked.
15. Scamp has been acting mafiaish like he usually does. Remaining quiet. good lynch candidate.
16. Shikyo could be our Godfather at this point. He has been acting very sketchy.
17. Caller -Night 1 dead
18. Motbob one of the first to call out and vote for chezinu.
19. Redtooth used for SugDori check has to be green (or GF, but doubtful)
20. Heavonearth was unbanned so he could actually play this and doesn't post? really retarded if he dies its no loss either. Someone just has to PM hotbid and tell him to reban.
21. Chezinu -Day 3 red&dead

That is pretty much everything that has been going on all game for those that don't know. We have plenty of people we are sure are innocent, the pool of reds is very low at this point in the game. By lynching Scamp and tricode we should get one red. After that I would proceed with Amber or HoE. We should have 1-2 checks done by then.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 02 2009 20:16 GMT
#1170
tl;dr vote Scamp and Tricode.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
November 02 2009 20:55 GMT
#1171
I still have a hard time seeing the mafia team as chez, judge, and two of (tricode, scamp, shikyo, hoe)

Unless shikyo made some amazing plays in the last few games that I missed, I don't see the vet in there. I'm still not convinced shikyo > L for chances to be gf no matter how hard bc wanted to push shikyo as red.

I do agree that one of tricode/scamp/hoe are mafia though. I guess I'll just wait to see what happens tonight.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 03 2009 00:23 GMT
#1172
Supposedly Judge is supposed to be really good at playing games that don't give clues. I heard something about him playing on other mafia forums, I can't remember the site now though. I don't know much about Shikyo's previous playing style. He seemed to be town oriented in the beginning but it seems to be slipping away. I could see Scamp and Shikyo as our mafia. But hey, we can kill L later if you really want.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 03 2009 00:32 GMT
#1173
Okay look. This is getting seriously annoying.

People are voting for me and justifying it with "not being active" which is far from what's actually going on. Look at the evidence and find anything that points me as mafia. ANYTHING. All that's ever said is that I'm acting like I did in previous games where I was mafia.

I need to point out again that mafia have not given up despite what appears to be a really bad situation. This means, in my mind, that there are mafia out there in a really good position not to get killed.

Yes I am still suspicious of L. In fact, I am suspicious of any behind the scenes circle, mainly because I am not involved in it. I strongly urge people to take a look at who voted for Vivi, knowing now that Chez is mafia. L says they made the vote close to see if anyone would jump and reveal themselves. Is no one suspecting that it's just an excuse to try to save Chez?

I mean, both Vivi and Chez were suspected of being mafia. How come people that suspected Vivi before don't suspect him now?

I don't have a good reason to suspect Sugiura right now, because there was a day where no one was hit and no one has counter-claimed to her claim of being hit. That'd have to be one crazy mafia tactic to hit their own member, unless they've got a medic in their pocket. I'd like to point out that while she is doing a great job at leading the town, she hasn't been helpful so far in killing any mafia. She voted for Vivi, and she was wrong about Judge. Is this scenerio far-fetched? Yes. But it's about as far fetched as lynching me.

I need a picture of Farfetched here.

Anyway, I said I had additional information to share, and here it is. Infundibulum had been communicating with me via PMs about his suspicion of L. What L suspected is correct, he did protect L the night that L claimed to have been hit and protected by a medic. He received no message saying his protection worked. So if there are actually two medics in this game as well as a veteran that seemed pretty powerful for the town. So we figured something was fishy.

Here's the kicker. Infundibulum also protected Sugiura the night she got hit, and his protection failed again. I really don't know what to make of this. Either both medics are in total sync by circumstance and the other medic sends in his actions really, really fast or someone is lying. Maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe the other medic is in someone's pocket and sends in their actions as soon as night starts. Either way only Sugiura knows for sure who this other medic is.

I did tell one person about Infun, just in case I was being lied to. That person is Pyrr. I sent a PM to him the night no one got killed. I wanted to make sure that if I died the information would be out there somewhere.


The point here is that I don't know who's calling the shots behind the scenes, but everything is super quiet from what I can see. I'm still suspicious of L because of this quietness, even though if he is the vet he's got nothing to fear from being night killed. You know who also voiced a similar opinion? BloodyCobbler. Have people forgotten this?

Then there are people voting with no evidence, they're just voting because they can't find anything better to do. It's frustrating and annoying when the town is being this quiet when we are in a really really good situation.
Cheese is good for you!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 03 2009 00:36 GMT
#1174
How come people that suspected Vivi before don't suspect him now?
Because we have a confirmed DT with confirmed sanity who checked him as green.

Try to keep up with the thread before you go into hyper defensive porcupine mode.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-03 00:47:52
November 03 2009 00:41 GMT
#1175
Several things.

One.
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Two.
Scamp said: I mean, both Vivi and Chez were suspected of being mafia. How come people that suspected Vivi before don't suspect him now?


I think it has been said a few times by now. Vivi can only be the godfather if anything. Vivi and Redtooth were both the SAME to sugdori's checks on them. Do you honestly think both of them are our last mafia, or that one is the godfather?

And from what it sounds like, Infundi was suspicious of L claiming medic because he figured he was the only medic. Which makes sense. Then you show that you know there must be two and that the other medic is just sending in his actions quicker than Infundiblium was.

I mean if I was a medic and I saw someone claim that he got protected I would be suspicious at least in such a small game. However when he tried to protect sugdori and she was saved and it wasn't by him, he should of realized the second medic was with L, but I feel like he forgot why he thought L was suspicious and just kept going with that and just added some confusion into the mix.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 03 2009 00:41 GMT
#1176
On November 03 2009 09:36 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
How come people that suspected Vivi before don't suspect him now?
Because we have a confirmed DT with confirmed sanity who checked him as green.

Try to keep up with the thread before you go into hyper defensive porcupine mode.

Oh you.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 03 2009 01:19 GMT
#1177
Sorry I've been away for a bit, updating OP now.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 03 2009 02:19 GMT
#1178
On November 03 2009 09:36 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
How come people that suspected Vivi before don't suspect him now?
Because we have a confirmed DT with confirmed sanity who checked him as green.

Try to keep up with the thread before you go into hyper defensive porcupine mode.


Yeah thanks. Oh wait, we had this information during the Chezinu/Vivi vote.

Please reply to all the stuff about you.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 03 2009 02:27 GMT
#1179
On November 03 2009 09:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I think it has been said a few times by now. Vivi can only be the godfather if anything. Vivi and Redtooth were both the SAME to sugdori's checks on them. Do you honestly think both of them are our last mafia, or that one is the godfather?


No, I don't. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. There seems to be a lot of decision making that is being kept secret from the town. Pyrr had some reasoning to vote for Chez that he revealed after the vote. It would have been nice to have that information before the vote. Now apparently there was a plan to keep the vote close to see if anyone would reveal themselves by voting at the last second. Awesome.

Again there is probably a wealth of information to be had but if there is it's being kept secret. Now we're voting on the pretense that we're bound to hit a mafia if we just vote a whole group of people off. Excellent. We are in a good situation so let's just nuke the island and pick off mafia in a random blast.

What is the point of all this secrecy? The mafia only has one KP a night, we have a medic out there somewhere, we have a veteran who's afraid to speak pubically, and we have multiple DTs figuring out things as we go. Unless there's something I'm missing, all the mafia have in their favor right now is a godfather. But if we play scared and hide all the information we have, this will just cause confusion among the town that aren't "in the loop."
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SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
November 03 2009 02:39 GMT
#1180
On November 03 2009 10:19 Ver wrote:
Sorry I've been away for a bit, updating OP now.


I like how we still have 2 of 2 bodyguards left, thanks for continuing to show that you and math just don't get along, Ver ;P
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