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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 25 2009 01:49 GMT
#661
Seems like Pyrrhuloxia never sent the BG info to a third party or at least didn't announce it.

What is your explanation for this course of action?
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 25 2009 01:55 GMT
#662
how is he supposed to trust any of you morons anyway. You guys thought foolishness was mafia oh about 20 pages ago.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
October 25 2009 02:00 GMT
#663
Redtooth has been silent lately. I still think he is suspicious and possibly red.

Pyrr hasn't been acting like a good active mayor, in my opinion, as well. he is barely showing up and posts once about his thoughts about the plan and leaves for a good while.

He also just keeps disappearing after 1 post for a good long while. I have concerns about this, anyone else feel the same way?
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 25 2009 02:02 GMT
#664
On October 25 2009 10:55 Amber[LighT] wrote:
how is he supposed to trust any of you morons anyway. You guys thought foolishness was mafia oh about 20 pages ago.

It's funny how you say "you guys" as a reply to a post of mine when I definitely didn't think Foolishness was mafia, at all.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 25 2009 02:26 GMT
#665
Yeah I'm getting my drank on at a party but I'm checking in. Looks like I was right and they didn't kill either of us so you can quit bitching now. Did I pass it on? No. I've been in touch with the BGs and their behavior led me to believe they are not on the same team. All you passer advocates were sure the BGs were both red or both green so I went with my intuition and we live another day. We can debate about this some more but my guess is the mafia would have killed us already if both BGs were red cause the odds of passing on info only goes up.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 25 2009 02:27 GMT
#666
not passing on the info at all was.. a poor decision.

can you tell us more about the behavioral clues without giving us names? or would it be too obvious?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 25 2009 02:32 GMT
#667
On October 25 2009 11:27 L wrote:
not passing on the info at all was.. a poor decision.

can you tell us more about the behavioral clues without giving us names? or would it be too obvious?

You're the one that was arguing along with me against Ace to not pass it on. WTF. One BG wanted me to not pass it on and another wanted me to pass it on to one person. I guess maybe that's suspicious but whatever we aren't dead yet we can figure it out now. I'm definitely not really focused on this game but whatever too late now I'll do my best.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 25 2009 02:37 GMT
#668
I know you've probably been downing a few brewskis, but I was pushing for you to not pass it on to ace, but to send it to one non disclosed person.

In retrospect your method turned out to be the best choice since it obviously had an effect on mafia's blueradar, but it was also very risky.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
October 25 2009 02:40 GMT
#669
On October 25 2009 05:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
That said, since there has been no veteran claim yet, I think it's safe to say that there is either no veteran or that motbob is the veteran. Thus, the move rests on Pyrr for now;

The veteran shouldn't claim until after Motbob lynch with the plan I suggested. How I said it should go is now we lynch Motbob (The DT's should have checked Motbob) and during the night phase the Vet role claims and the DT's proceed to use their check's again (this time on the "Vet")
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Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
October 25 2009 02:43 GMT
#670
I think some of our plans just met a train right now. I can't recall all of them, but this bg and vet plan doesn't seem to be starting off yet =\ and we missed dt's checking for the first lynch.

Is there a plan or something I'm forgetting about that we can still do or will attempt to do next chance we get?
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
October 25 2009 02:59 GMT
#671
On October 25 2009 11:43 Tricode wrote:
I think some of our plans just met a train right now. I can't recall all of them, but this bg and vet plan doesn't seem to be starting off yet =\ and we missed dt's checking for the first lynch.

Is there a plan or something I'm forgetting about that we can still do or will attempt to do next chance we get?

Who says we missed our first checks? I am still voting Motbob. Qatol was waiting for night actions, I am assuming the DT's were the stallers. Think about it, right now the DT's literally have nothing better to do then try to confirm their sanity, the only option offered for that was checking Motbob.

As far as I can see Ace is just being a fuck and creating confusion. At no point should Ace have ever been sent the BG list, it was retarded. The mafia if they were both BG's would have killed Pyrr and Ace first meaning we would have to hope the one last guy was town orientated. There was no benefit to sending it to Ace except hopefully the medic would protect him which would be completely redundant.

I think you just mentioned that stupid BG plan in an attempt to get the towns trust having already decided against the plan as mafia, or maybe you are even trying to slow play the BG idea. Who knows? There are plenty of possibilities.

Oh and Ace, I never said my guess at the role count was 100% but saying it has no baring is retarded. WE KNOW that the blues and reds are not a majority of the roles and clearly this game isn't blue powered up. The blue count is AROUND what I fucking said it was, give or take one. If you disagree you are a dimwit.

Right now we more or less had a good idea about how to go about this game which I still think has a good possibility of ending well. The lynch check/DT plan is most likely in play, I can't see any other logical action by the DT's happening.

Also what is the benefit for the mafia killing the pardoner? There really is none. The pardoner pretty much should never use his power under any circumstance. Ace is threatening to pardon the SAME person who voted for him twice in a row. This is clearly fishy. I don't think at any point there was any huge bandwagon on Motbob and he tried making it seem like a few people started this idea when it was just decided that Motbob can't really help the town at all since hes away for his grandfather and we needed to kill someone anyway.

HoE was offered in exchange for Motbob since HoE was temp banned for two weeks, but when it was reduced we tried killing Motbob and Ace pardoned it. This just seems like complete horse shit to me.

I think Ace's behavior looks really red and if Motbob actually flips red upon death it pretty much confirms that notion. I just don't get why you won't let the town utilize its kill power for 3 fucking days and how anyone can see that as beneficial? In a given game we basically only get 7 lynches MAX and hes threatening to take away two of those. How now one is looking at this and seeing a problem is beyond me.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-25 03:00:22
October 25 2009 02:59 GMT
#672
Oh and summary

VOTE FOR MOTBOB

Holy shit.

Edit: Or Ace, at this point I am sure either is a good choice.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 25 2009 03:21 GMT
#673
On October 25 2009 11:59 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Oh and summary

VOTE FOR MOTBOB

Holy shit.

Edit: Or Ace, at this point I am sure either is a good choice.

I'm almost certain Ace is mafia if he keeps up with his motbob pardoning. Also, there really wasn't a bandwagon started against it. I actually was most likely the first one to take note of his post count at the time he voted for Ace, and it kept increasing even though he didn't talk in the thread, until he said something about his grandpa, and didn't reply to my doubts after that. It WAS highly suspicious, if you disagree you just are completely blind or totally wrong.

Now Ace is going to set us back two days in this game where we really need to lower the mafia numbers asap and he also wanted the BG roles to be sent to him for no proper reason, since it could just as well be anyone other than him.

I say that it's useless to vote for motbob since he'll just get pardoned. If we want to actually lynch someone and make progress, we need to vote to lynch Ace. If Ace really still doesn't see the benefit of that DT plan that now is impossible, and if he still would pardon motbob it's certain that Ace is either a mafia or that he should stop calling himself a vet, since this is some of the most shitty play I've ever seen from a townie pardoner.


In other news, what the hell is this?

"From: RebirthOfLeGenD [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: yo
Date: 10/25/09 11:33
Sup"

Fishing is forbidden in these waters.
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Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
October 25 2009 03:39 GMT
#674
Should we take a risk of doing a double lynch in hopes to catch up on what we missed?
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 25 2009 03:48 GMT
#675
On October 25 2009 12:39 Tricode wrote:
Should we take a risk of doing a double lynch in hopes to catch up on what we missed?

no
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 25 2009 03:51 GMT
#676
On October 25 2009 11:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Yeah I'm getting my drank on at a party but I'm checking in. Looks like I was right and they didn't kill either of us so you can quit bitching now. Did I pass it on? No. I've been in touch with the BGs and their behavior led me to believe they are not on the same team. All you passer advocates were sure the BGs were both red or both green so I went with my intuition and we live another day. We can debate about this some more but my guess is the mafia would have killed us already if both BGs were red cause the odds of passing on info only goes up.


The whole point was because I'm a fucking Detective like L said 5 pages ago (you know, the only person who caught the plan within the plan).

I was gonna investigate both your bodyguards and make sure they both flip the same color and match them with the 3rd person you would have given the list to. Either way your behavior is very shoddy and tricode's post pretty much outlined why I really don't trust you right now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
October 25 2009 03:51 GMT
#677
So i guess we have to put the ball in Ace's court and ask what will you do about the next lynch?
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 25 2009 04:01 GMT
#678
Jeezus Shikyo and RoL you guys are terrible.

THINK.

You just said yourselves I wouldn't need the BG lists because any other 2 random people would have done fine right? correct

The Mafia definitely couldn't kill Pyrr + 2 randoms if he announced them publicly right? correct

So what would be the only point of me wanting the Bodyguard lists? hmmm lets see...um I'm a DT and I can check them both to make sure they flip "blue". Then I'd just compare them with the 3rd person or a Vet RC and see if they flip "blue" also or flip any other color. If the Mafia killed the 3rd person I'd have my confirmed shot on Night 1, a lynch candidate on Night 2 to test and both bodyguards already lined up. In 1 Night I'd have 4 possible people to check my sanity on, 2 of them being very likely to be Mafia since the biggest power play (you know, the one no one else mentioned) was them subbing both bodyguards.

However despite the fact that if I was Mafia I'd never even want the town to be highly aware of the sub, you guys think I'm suspect because I pardoned someone you all have literally no clue about and wanted to lynch. Think beyond your ass for a second. I could have easily said nothing, asked my supposed Mafia buddies to sub in the BGs, snipe Pyrr and there would be no way to trace it to me because technically I'd never ever have known who the BGs were anyway.

Why oh fucking why would I go through all this trouble to make the town aware if I were Mafia?

Different game, same fucking idiots. /facepalm
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 25 2009 04:02 GMT
#679
On October 25 2009 12:51 Tricode wrote:
So i guess we have to put the ball in Ace's court and ask what will you do about the next lynch?


depends on who it is.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 25 2009 04:06 GMT
#680
yay, my first rolecheck came back and the guy flipped Paramedic. All I need is the BG names now. Both bodyguards are supposed to flip "blue". As long as they flip the same color there will be no complications and this game is as good as over.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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