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Tricode
United States538 Posts
That way there would be no reason (for the mafia) to kill pyrr and that risk he took would work out and wouldn't be such a risk after all. Also to make things less suspicious they wouldn't want to kill Ace or people would get the idea something was wrong. That is only an assumption, if pyrr might be mafia. I don't have to skills yet to actually determine this. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Night 1 role check vx70GTOJudgexv flips Paramedic I'll take the game into my own hands if I have to. @tricode: Yea any of them can still be mafia. If Pyrr is innocent and the Mafia subbed both BGs they are probably boned. I just roleclaimed DT and posted the result of my first check so it's kinda too late for them. Every night I'm publicly going to post my results so in the event I die everyone can figure out my sanity. This way the if the Mafia indeed subbed BGs they'd have to kill me now. So this puts pressure on Pyrr to basically go ahead and give up the names so they can be checked. Also to make things less suspicious they wouldn't want to kill Ace or people would get the idea something was wrong. Not exactly. If I were Mafia after reading the plans on the first day to figure out DT sanity the first thing I would have done is sub both BGs and smash both office holders. No one can trace it. It also gets rid of the possibility of any protected roles in office. Pretty much if I was Mafia this game I probably wouldn't have any other Mafia run for office if no one else realized the BG subbing threat. As for determining who's Mafia and who isn't right now just look at who's making the most "pro-town" sense. Besides myself the only other person with a sane plan was L. Amberlight is pretty much useless and is actually a good call for lynching Day 3. Very anti-town behavior. RoL is being his typical, anti-Ace at all odds not thinking self. As usual when people finally catch up to my ideas this puts his ass in the hot seat. More anti-Ace than anti-town but still not pro-town at all. Aka getting rid of him isn't a bad idea at all. Shikyo reads some posts but quickly debates anything. Not a bad quality to have but also not good if you need to explicitly spell out the obvious read between the lines stuff. Neutral at the moment. L is being L and really at this point why would anyone even suspect him. pro-town. Pyrr gave the "I'm not paying attention to this game excuse" which firmly sets him as a highly suspect guy. Very anti-town as the best play was giving the BG names to pretty much anyone else as the possibility of him dying was very high. I think any innocent Mayor would have noticed the possibility of such an instagib rape happening and at least tried to do something. Vivi57. like do I even need to explain? RoL/Amberlight territory but with more cluelessness. Right now Pyrr and Amberlight would be the best lynch candidates, with Amberlight being ideal. We have to wait to see what Pyrr does. RoL is a close second on the knot list. Vivi57 is always a good lynch candidate. | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On October 25 2009 11:00 Tricode wrote: i was out losing CSL. now i'm back. let me catch up.Redtooth has been silent lately. I still think he is suspicious and possibly red. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On October 25 2009 13:01 Ace wrote: Jeezus Shikyo and RoL you guys are terrible. THINK. You just said yourselves I wouldn't need the BG lists because any other 2 random people would have done fine right? correct The Mafia definitely couldn't kill Pyrr + 2 randoms if he announced them publicly right? correct So what would be the only point of me wanting the Bodyguard lists? hmmm lets see...um I'm a DT and I can check them both to make sure they flip "blue". Then I'd just compare them with the 3rd person or a Vet RC and see if they flip "blue" also or flip any other color. If the Mafia killed the 3rd person I'd have my confirmed shot on Night 1, a lynch candidate on Night 2 to test and both bodyguards already lined up. In 1 Night I'd have 4 possible people to check my sanity on, 2 of them being very likely to be Mafia since the biggest power play (you know, the one no one else mentioned) was them subbing both bodyguards. However despite the fact that if I was Mafia I'd never even want the town to be highly aware of the sub, you guys think I'm suspect because I pardoned someone you all have literally no clue about and wanted to lynch. Think beyond your ass for a second. I could have easily said nothing, asked my supposed Mafia buddies to sub in the BGs, snipe Pyrr and there would be no way to trace it to me because technically I'd never ever have known who the BGs were anyway. Why oh fucking why would I go through all this trouble to make the town aware if I were Mafia? Different game, same fucking idiots. /facepalm Yeah, I basically prompted you to roleclaim before the night ended so we could make a move, but you didn't. The wine in front of me defense and the after-the-fact roleclaim look pretty bad. You could have made a perfectly fine pitch by stating you were a DT and giving us the details beforehand, yet you didn't. I really don't get this. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
For you see, we don't actually know the role judge could be for if you have read the dt role, you would see how inaccurate you could be your so drole Now you have to prove your mind set, or a noose incorrect someone may get. Dear man please listen to my plea, don't make me talk about a big green tree | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On October 25 2009 13:32 L wrote: Yeah, I basically prompted you to roleclaim before the night ended so we could make a move, but you didn't. The wine in front of me defense and the after-the-fact roleclaim look pretty bad. You could have made a perfectly fine pitch by stating you were a DT and giving us the details beforehand, yet you didn't. I really don't get this. Actually I had a post written up to roleclaim but didn't post it just because I wasn't sure if the medics would protect me. Essentially if the Mafia really did sub in both bodyguards and the medics didn't protect me and I died it would have been a really bad play. So the only other way would have been for Pyrr to give me the bodyguard names, I'd announce " I'm investigating the bodyguards" and then make them hesitate to make a move. Of course Pyrr never gave me the list of names and I could have still been killed so I decided to wait until Day 2 so I could have 1 RC down publicly and force Pyrr to give up the names. If I die now at least the town would have some kind of information. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Go ahead and lynch me. Maybe it will open some peoples eyes in this game. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On October 25 2009 13:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Dear ace, you may be a one man marching at a far speedier pace. For you see, we don't actually know the role judge could be for if you have read the dt role, you would see how inaccurate you could be your so drole Now you have to prove your mind set, or a noose incorrect someone may get. Dear man please listen to my plea, don't make me talk about a big green tree Of course I don't know if it's correct. By posting it as "judge flipped medic" if the Mafia kill myself or Judge we get some good info. Like I said yesterday we can do things without lynching possible innocents. It's like an advanced medic list. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On October 25 2009 13:36 Amber[LighT] wrote: Lol the fact that we're not lynching you after pardoning someone who's inactive anyway makes no sense. Everybody is treading lightly around you Ace, and you come through with this elaborate post, yet how can we believe anything. Go ahead and lynch me. Maybe it will open some peoples eyes in this game. tl;dr | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On October 25 2009 13:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: i don't understand what is so confusing? assuming he isn't lying, ace has yet to figure out his sanity but is protected so it's fine. publicly announcing what judge was may have been a bad idea but who knows he may just have been lying (mafia killing judge is a far more convenient method of flipping a person than town lynching judge). if ace dies than that means the 2 BGs are mafia so pyrr releases names and we double lynch them. if pyrr doesn't release then we know he is mafia so we lynch him. for now, ace is protected and DT.Dear ace, you may be a one man marching at a far speedier pace. For you see, we don't actually know the role judge could be for if you have read the dt role, you would see how inaccurate you could be your so drole Now you have to prove your mind set, or a noose incorrect someone may get. Dear man please listen to my plea, don't make me talk about a big green tree if we assume ace is mafia then that is a very very very ballsy move on his part. he said he's going to post every night so if the facts don't match up (like he claims a different color for the same role) then we can just lynch him. like someone said before, the ball is on ace's court right now so we'll see what happens. speeding forward is not necessarily a bad thing. btw whether judge dies or not tonight provides a lot of information so i'm looking forward to that. meanwhile, kill motbob? | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
edit: changed "more" to "better" | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I'm not angry, I just like calling people on their bullshit. Really annoying when I have to spell out a scenario 5 different ways and RoL is still drooling going durrr when it's plain as day what I'm doing. Your post just summarizes the situation even more and if they don't get it whatever. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
However with a bg unable to check, we need the stance of the lovely vet, so I call to arms the man of stone, rise and take watch of the Iron throne for you see, with two hits you may take, and with that a save of iron you may make So stand tall our man of stone, come out and defend the throne. To those of the unfortunate kind, perhaps we not forget the lists a day behind, A vote trend happened so fast, let us not forget to look at the past. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
and to see that man moody is mighty sad the poetry, it harms him, it keeps him up at night but alas I say, I see the messages in your plight they get angry, they curse, they spit on your name but even when rhyming I see your true game so go on, rhyme, mix and mash syllables! because Ace will always connect with you like an umbilical | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
with the plight we have here, only ingenuity will defeat the fear for the loss we are trying to stop, and to do this we must ignore the flop, for through the plans of days once past, shall help us destroy the mafia with a blast | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On October 25 2009 13:58 Ace wrote: your rhyming while goody, will make L mad and to see that man moody is mighty sad the poetry, it harms him, it keeps him up at night but alas I say, I see the messages in your plight they get angry, they curse, they spit on your name but even when rhyming I see your true game so go on, rhyme, mix and mash syllables! because Ace will always connect with you like an umbilical It's like a dream to have this fad. Especially knowing that it makes L mad. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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