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USA5860 Posts

October 22 2009 19:02 GMT

#371

On October 23 2009 03:55 motbob wrote:
My grandpa died and I'm helping make preparations for his funeral so I'll be super inactive until Sunday. Sorry

You and your grandfather are about to have something in common.
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<3 sorry for your loss

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USA5860 Posts

October 22 2009 19:06 GMT

#372

2. If the DTs check tricode and he's green, when they check the vet he'll show up as a mafia or a blue, but the DT can't know which. He might contact a mafia and he has no way at all of knowing whether the vet is actually vet or a mafia. Also, they won't get hit by mafia in either case, so we can't even use the fact that they weren't hit as a reason for suspicion.

Also, I don't understand why the mafia wouldn't announce that a DT claimed to them, they already put themselves into the open as vets to begin with. That'd be really stupid. But maybe the mafia actually is that stupid, who knows.

If the DT dies after role claiming to the "vet" chances are he was a mafia and I understand that the DT won't know if the "vet" is either one, but that means losing 1DT and killing the godfather/mafia. Conversely if 2 Veteran's claim we will then again trade off 1 Vet for a mafia again (Possibly also losing a DT)

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USA5860 Posts

October 22 2009 19:26 GMT

#377

On October 23 2009 04:15 Shikyo wrote:
Mafia don't need to kill the DT who claimed to the fake vet, since the DT is going to see blue as red and red as blue and might actually hurt the town. Then the fake vet can gain all the information he can and win.

I guess you're correct about imba though, so I'd say that there's only one medic and one vet, but we can never be sure and if we screw up with that, we're done.

I think if you shift medic/Vet numbers at ALL it would be imbalanced. So we can be SURE the one Vet that claims is sincere. If there are two Vets that claim we call it off and kill the Two claiming vets.

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USA5860 Posts

October 22 2009 20:00 GMT

#384

I think the only unused role is either a Vig or a MH.

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USA5860 Posts

October 23 2009 13:25 GMT

#542

On October 23 2009 08:27 HeavOnEarth wrote:
i dunno how u guys find rhymes so fast, i cant even think of anything that rhymes with orange =/

Doorhinge.

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USA5860 Posts

October 23 2009 13:30 GMT

#543

On October 23 2009 08:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:

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door hinge.

i just blew yalls minds.

FUCK YOU.

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USA5860 Posts

October 23 2009 14:08 GMT

#544

Shikyo, mafia requires a lot of time, reading an OP of another post doesn't.

Oh and I asked Hot_Bid if he can unban HoE until the games over or change it to a 2 day ban. I figured we would wait until he responded. But that isn't the case apparently.

I would laugh if HoE was the Vet and just royally fucked that plan. We should just tell people to not post in the normal forum during mafia games, because this puts us in a bad situation.

and lol if motbob used world's best excuse to date as to why he is not active.

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USA5860 Posts

October 23 2009 16:14 GMT

#546

HoE's ban has been made only two days now. I just have to remind Hot_Bid after the game to reban him.

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USA5860 Posts

October 24 2009 07:12 GMT

#582

DT/Vet plan I suppose. And yeah I guess we should. But we kind of need to see who dies tonight first. The vet plan. I guess we COULD start that plan now, the DT's can check people as of now.

RIGHT NOW. DT's please do NOT use your checks yet.

Edit: Fixed tags.

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USA5860 Posts

October 24 2009 07:32 GMT

#584

Agreed Tricode. So I was talking wtih BC, I mainly wanted to just consult with someone before trying to announce anything official but here is what we decided.

I agree with HoE, I think I remember Ace once upon a time saying that pardoning doesn't really help the town to which I agree even if he didn't say it. That being out there I think we should lynch Motbob the next opportunity we have unless for some reason a better suspect arises we have nothing else to go on.

So tonight All DT's should use their RC's on Motbob

When Motbob dies we then get an idea on DT sanity and can put the Vet plan into action. If Motbob ends up actually being a Mafia then we might have to look at Ace as a suspect, although I doubt we will really see that outcome it is a potential benefit. So if you haven't used your check yet, you DT's should check Motbob.

Edit: Grammar.

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USA5860 Posts

October 24 2009 17:15 GMT

#602

Ace the Vet plan as I proposed was two prong, you said yourself that a sane DT becomes very powerful in this game. What we are aiming for is this. Sane DT's and an established blue.

We now have checks available, so what we are trying to do is establish DT sanity while putting the vet plan in motion. The first thing we do is select a lynch candidate NOW. Motbob is IA because his grandfather died, and statistically there is about a 3/4th chance he is either red or ~~blue~~green.

Tomorrow unless we somehow get a better candidate we lynch motbob. Now we have the checks confirmed. If Motbob turns green/red we get the DT information on their sanity and it is narrowed down to two.

Then as night falls again we have the DT's ability to role check again and the Vet plan comes into play. When they check the "Vet" he should be blue, so now we have 2 colors and the DT's now know their sanity and we have an established blue.

Now the issue you could see is IF Motbob is blue then what? Then we proceed with the plan. The only issue now is the DT's sanity is not confirmed, however then the "Vet" is guaranteed to be blue or godfather. This is because when they check the "vet" he should come back exactly how they saw Motbob or something is up.

In relation to the godfather being an issue, its a dumb move. If the GF fakes being the Vet we kill both the actual vet and the godfather and are down one mafia, which is an exchange I am sure we are willing to make.

Any questions?

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USA5860 Posts

October 24 2009 17:16 GMT

#603

On October 25 2009 01:57 Qatol wrote:

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Night ends in 8 hours or when we get all the night actions in. We do not have all the night actions in yet, so right now I'm saying 8 hours.

Hopefully this means all the DTs!

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USA5860 Posts

October 24 2009 17:45 GMT

#611

On October 25 2009 02:20 Ace wrote:
A 75% chance he's red or blue? Where did you come up with that number :/

You just said outlined the entire reason we don't have to kill motbob - The Vet idea. The Vet steps forward and all the DTs role check him and get confirmation. At this point there's no need to kill motbob as the DTs already have used their check for the night. Killing motbob would accomplish nothing.

Right now there is only one thing we need to focus on - Pyrr telling myself and another player who the bodyguards are. He still hasn't done it and time is running out. We need this information before Night 1 is over. Once we move to Day 2 I'll reveal the second part of my plan.

I clearly I meant red or green. The number is an estimate of what I believe the game role count to be.

4 mafia, 1 medic 2 DT's 1 vet and 1 MH or Vig rest are towny. Which games ro about 15/21 who are red/green if that is correct. It seems like a good balanced set up, so I am assuming it is something similar.

I honestly don't think anyone thinks giving you the BG list is the correct idea at all. You are acting fishy. Pure and simple. You somehow got the pardoner role going from 1 vote to 3 just enough to win. You know what your big post was that got that?

On October 23 2009 06:13 Ace wrote:
also I'm still running for Mayor ^_^

Regardless of who wins use the Vet idea.

Shit, I'm convinced. Oh you know what is also interesting? One of your voters was Motbob.

Stop playing the part of a fool. I am growing tired of it.

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USA5860 Posts

October 25 2009 02:40 GMT

#669

On October 25 2009 05:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
That said, since there has been no veteran claim yet, I think it's safe to say that there is either no veteran or that motbob is the veteran. Thus, the move rests on Pyrr for now;

The veteran shouldn't claim until after Motbob lynch with the plan I suggested. How I said it should go is now we lynch Motbob (The DT's should have checked Motbob) and during the night phase the Vet role claims and the DT's proceed to use their check's again (this time on the "Vet")

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USA5860 Posts

October 25 2009 02:59 GMT

#671

On October 25 2009 11:43 Tricode wrote:
I think some of our plans just met a train right now. I can't recall all of them, but this bg and vet plan doesn't seem to be starting off yet =\ and we missed dt's checking for the first lynch.

Is there a plan or something I'm forgetting about that we can still do or will attempt to do next chance we get?

Who says we missed our first checks? I am still voting Motbob. Qatol was waiting for night actions, I am assuming the DT's were the stallers. Think about it, right now the DT's literally have nothing better to do then try to confirm their sanity, the only option offered for that was checking Motbob.

As far as I can see Ace is just being a fuck and creating confusion. At no point should Ace have ever been sent the BG list, it was retarded. The mafia if they were both BG's would have killed Pyrr and Ace first meaning we would have to hope the one last guy was town orientated. There was no benefit to sending it to Ace except hopefully the medic would protect him which would be completely redundant.

I think you just mentioned that stupid BG plan in an attempt to get the towns trust having already decided against the plan as mafia, or maybe you are even trying to slow play the BG idea. Who knows? There are plenty of possibilities.

Oh and Ace, I never said my guess at the role count was 100% but saying it has no baring is retarded. WE KNOW that the blues and reds are not a majority of the roles and clearly this game isn't blue powered up. The blue count is AROUND what I fucking said it was, give or take one. If you disagree you are a dimwit.

Right now we more or less had a good idea about how to go about this game which I still think has a good possibility of ending well. The lynch check/DT plan is most likely in play, I can't see any other logical action by the DT's happening.

Also what is the benefit for the mafia killing the pardoner? There really is none. The pardoner pretty much should never use his power under any circumstance. Ace is threatening to pardon the SAME person who voted for him twice in a row. This is clearly fishy. I don't think at any point there was any huge bandwagon on Motbob and he tried making it seem like a few people started this idea when it was just decided that Motbob can't really help the town at all since hes away for his grandfather and we needed to kill someone anyway.

HoE was offered in exchange for Motbob since HoE was temp banned for two weeks, but when it was reduced we tried killing Motbob and Ace pardoned it. This just seems like complete horse shit to me.

I think Ace's behavior looks really red and if Motbob actually flips red upon death it pretty much confirms that notion. I just don't get why you won't let the town utilize its kill power for 3 fucking days and how anyone can see that as beneficial? In a given game we basically only get 7 lynches MAX and hes threatening to take away two of those. How now one is looking at this and seeing a problem is beyond me.

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USA5860 Posts

October 25 2009 02:59 GMT

#672

Oh and summary

VOTE FOR MOTBOB

Holy shit.

Edit: Or Ace, at this point I am sure either is a good choice.

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USA5860 Posts

October 25 2009 05:31 GMT

#705

Alright, one question comes to mind. After posting how important DT's gaining their sanity is, what the hell is the point in checking Judge? What possible use could that be? Hes practically an unknown player who has a low chance of dying and you use a retarded check on him? It serves no purpose.

So why Judge?