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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 15 2019 14:38 GMT
#161
On May 15 2019 20:22 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2019 17:25 cLutZ wrote:
On May 12 2019 12:16 AdsMoFro wrote:
Idk the more I think about it the more I realise MSI Group stage is so fucking pointless. We're basically just waiting for the knockout stage since it's pretty obvious who's making it out. That makes these bo1s so worthless in my eyes and the fact that we get only 3 Bo5s at the second biggest International tournament is so laughable.



For me, I think BO1 is beyond pointless at this point. League has developed such that its nonsense. In fact, the way they game has developed, BO5 is no longer sufficient for elimination series. LOL has become more like Baseball or Hockey, where even a BO7 might not be enough. So Riot has a choice. They can either revert a lot of the changes they have made that makes winners seem less likely to actually be the "better team" or they need to increase the length of series.

And I'm not even talking about SKT, iG, and G2 (although my theory is 100% verified if iG loses more than 1 game in elimination series, total). The problem is I watch a game, and think that in a significant percentage of the games, I think the winner just got lucky with Fog of War early in the game (and their opponent had no opportunity to ward it properly, or even worse they had the objectively correct wards, but the dive was not avoidable anyways), or there is a situation where a team sends in a scout, who is a tank, and is the tankiest character in the game, for t makehe purpose of gaining a minor amount of vision, and they just lose, even though they were even, and made the right choices.

TLDR: There are too many wrong choices in LOL now, and wrong choices are too important.


So what you're saying is...revert vision changes ;D



More vision might help, but they also should probably Nerf damage by 30% across the board for players.
Freeeeeeedom
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4890 Posts
May 17 2019 10:31 GMT
#162
Beautiful skirmish by TL, Impact with the fancy feet!
Taxes are for Terrans
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 17 2019 10:42 GMT
#163
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4890 Posts
May 17 2019 10:44 GMT
#164
Definitely. That sneak baron made them desperate I think.
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
May 17 2019 10:44 GMT
#165
I loathe Xmithie's Jarvan build. He entirely gives up having any impact in the game post lane phase.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 17 2019 10:57 GMT
#166
Wow, this is a lot closer than I expected.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 17 2019 10:58 GMT
#167
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
May 17 2019 11:00 GMT
#168
Well...RIP the 3-0 predictions
Que Sera Sera
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 17 2019 11:12 GMT
#169
On May 17 2019 20:00 AdsMoFro wrote:
Well...RIP the 3-0 predictions

I guess I'm rooting for TL now lol.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 11:17:03
May 17 2019 11:16 GMT
#170
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 17 2019 11:35 GMT
#171
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
May 17 2019 11:42 GMT
#172
Nice throw boys.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 11:51:39
May 17 2019 11:50 GMT
#173
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
May 17 2019 11:52 GMT
#174
On May 17 2019 20:50 JimmiC wrote:
THE DREAM IS ALIVE!

Also is Jason some sort of genius? + Show Spoiler +
no checking his group stage picks


He kept the faith!
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 12:35:02
May 17 2019 11:55 GMT
#175
Fucking end me, I never even imagined this would happen. If TL pulls this off, they're going down in history.

Game 3 is looking close again, lmao this is great.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 17 2019 12:01 GMT
#176
IG is looking more and more like the China I know and love.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
May 17 2019 12:17 GMT
#177
Jensen is so greedy, wtf?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 17 2019 12:55 GMT
#178
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 17 2019 13:05 GMT
#179
Lux? ok..
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
May 17 2019 13:15 GMT
#180
Lux! OK!
The original Bogus fan.
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