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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 20:25:09
May 13 2019 20:18 GMT
#121
TL Outcomes
Get out clean: 44
Tiebreaker: 16
Out in groups: 4

Dream scenario:
If TL beats SKT and FW loses to iG, they are TL is guaranteed semis.

Realistic scenario:
If TL loses to SKT and iG beat FW, 10-4-0

Nightmare scenario:
TL loses to SKT and FW upset iG, 4-8-4
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 21:11:54
May 13 2019 21:11 GMT
#122
I don't know if I'd be more disappointed if TL scrapes their way into playoffs almost exclusively because Chinabucks ruined FW, or if they don't make it there at all
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 13 2019 21:18 GMT
#123
Well, if things work out like expected in paper (SKT>TL, G2>PVB, iG>FW, G2>TL, FW>PVB) then there will be a tiebreaker. So, either TL beats a stronger opponent or earns their spot through the tiebreaker. The only way one could say TL didn't earn it is if PVB beats FW.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 23:10:27
May 13 2019 23:09 GMT
#124
On May 14 2019 06:18 Gahlo wrote:
Well, if things work out like expected in paper (SKT>TL, G2>PVB, iG>FW, G2>TL, FW>PVB) then there will be a tiebreaker. So, either TL beats a stronger opponent or earns their spot through the tiebreaker. The only way one could say TL didn't earn it is if PVB beats FW.


I'm not saying that they wouldn't earn it. I'd just be super disappointed if they only earn it because Chinabucks neutered the Flash Wolves. Like I think we can all agree that TL wouldn't be 4th with the same Hanabi/Jungler/Maple/Betty/SwordArt team in the mix.

Like it would be one thing if they 2-0, PVB, 2-0 FW, then upset one of G2/SKT/iG, but they're clearly only going to barely skate into playoffs off the back of worse competition than usual.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2019 00:02 GMT
#125
On May 14 2019 08:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 06:18 Gahlo wrote:
Well, if things work out like expected in paper (SKT>TL, G2>PVB, iG>FW, G2>TL, FW>PVB) then there will be a tiebreaker. So, either TL beats a stronger opponent or earns their spot through the tiebreaker. The only way one could say TL didn't earn it is if PVB beats FW.


I'm not saying that they wouldn't earn it. I'd just be super disappointed if they only earn it because Chinabucks neutered the Flash Wolves. Like I think we can all agree that TL wouldn't be 4th with the same Hanabi/Jungler/Maple/Betty/SwordArt team in the mix.

Like it would be one thing if they 2-0, PVB, 2-0 FW, then upset one of G2/SKT/iG, but they're clearly only going to barely skate into playoffs off the back of worse competition than usual.

That'd be like saying TL shouldn't be there at all because they were able to sign CoreJJ with NAMuns.

I could just as easily counter them getting by from worse competition by saying the higher rated teams are also better at MSI. China replaced Korea, Korea is more consistent as a #2 than China is, and EU is stronger than it's ever been.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 00:39 GMT
#126
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2019 01:34 GMT
#127
On May 14 2019 09:39 JimmiC wrote:
Eu's best team is stronger then it has ever been. There 2nd team is not bad for second. But after that it ranges between hot garbage and full fledged tirefire.

A funny tourny would be all leagues non playoff teams. Best of the bottom!

They joked about this on The Dive, calling it Drift Rivals.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-14 02:15:16
May 14 2019 02:14 GMT
#128
On May 14 2019 10:34 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 09:39 JimmiC wrote:
Eu's best team is stronger then it has ever been. There 2nd team is not bad for second. But after that it ranges between hot garbage and full fledged tirefire.

A funny tourny would be all leagues non playoff teams. Best of the bottom!

They joked about this on The Dive, calling it Drift Rivals.


Thrift Rivals*, like a thrift store. Or at least that's what I assumed

On May 14 2019 09:02 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 08:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 14 2019 06:18 Gahlo wrote:
Well, if things work out like expected in paper (SKT>TL, G2>PVB, iG>FW, G2>TL, FW>PVB) then there will be a tiebreaker. So, either TL beats a stronger opponent or earns their spot through the tiebreaker. The only way one could say TL didn't earn it is if PVB beats FW.


I'm not saying that they wouldn't earn it. I'd just be super disappointed if they only earn it because Chinabucks neutered the Flash Wolves. Like I think we can all agree that TL wouldn't be 4th with the same Hanabi/Jungler/Maple/Betty/SwordArt team in the mix.

Like it would be one thing if they 2-0, PVB, 2-0 FW, then upset one of G2/SKT/iG, but they're clearly only going to barely skate into playoffs off the back of worse competition than usual.

That'd be like saying TL shouldn't be there at all because they were able to sign CoreJJ with NAMuns.

I could just as easily counter them getting by from worse competition by saying the higher rated teams are also better at MSI. China replaced Korea, Korea is more consistent as a #2 than China is, and EU is stronger than it's ever been.


That's fair, but it just feels disappointing. I guess its just that NA isn't really getting better, the only team in TW just got worse
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2019 02:20 GMT
#129
On May 14 2019 11:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 10:34 Gahlo wrote:
On May 14 2019 09:39 JimmiC wrote:
Eu's best team is stronger then it has ever been. There 2nd team is not bad for second. But after that it ranges between hot garbage and full fledged tirefire.

A funny tourny would be all leagues non playoff teams. Best of the bottom!

They joked about this on The Dive, calling it Drift Rivals.


Thrift Rivals*, like a thrift store. Or at least that's what I assumed

Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 09:02 Gahlo wrote:
On May 14 2019 08:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 14 2019 06:18 Gahlo wrote:
Well, if things work out like expected in paper (SKT>TL, G2>PVB, iG>FW, G2>TL, FW>PVB) then there will be a tiebreaker. So, either TL beats a stronger opponent or earns their spot through the tiebreaker. The only way one could say TL didn't earn it is if PVB beats FW.


I'm not saying that they wouldn't earn it. I'd just be super disappointed if they only earn it because Chinabucks neutered the Flash Wolves. Like I think we can all agree that TL wouldn't be 4th with the same Hanabi/Jungler/Maple/Betty/SwordArt team in the mix.

Like it would be one thing if they 2-0, PVB, 2-0 FW, then upset one of G2/SKT/iG, but they're clearly only going to barely skate into playoffs off the back of worse competition than usual.

That'd be like saying TL shouldn't be there at all because they were able to sign CoreJJ with NAMuns.

I could just as easily counter them getting by from worse competition by saying the higher rated teams are also better at MSI. China replaced Korea, Korea is more consistent as a #2 than China is, and EU is stronger than it's ever been.


That's fair, but it just feels disappointing. I guess its just that NA isn't really getting better, the only team in TW just got worse

I might have misheard. Thrift rivals makes more sense.

As for the state of NA, I don't think it's in a terrible position and is being held down by the 1 representative format of MSI. Like old TSMs and C9 have shown, what wins NA might not be what pays off in international play. Korea and China will be Korea and China, but outside of G2 I haven't been too impressed with EU. I'm eagerly looking forward to Rift Rivals.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 10:32 GMT
#130
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
May 14 2019 10:40 GMT
#131
On May 14 2019 19:32 JimmiC wrote:
Lots went horribly wrong, but Hec did less than nothing.


>Guys we need to pick early game champs what should we do?

>Picks Hec and leaves bot on an island to get 4 manned constantly

Classic TL. DL hasn't gotten to play any League of Legends this tournament.
Que Sera Sera
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 10:44 GMT
#132
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 11:31 GMT
#133
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 14 2019 11:33 GMT
#134
Wunder and Ryze is a pretty good combination I guess... lol
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 11:37 GMT
#135
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-14 11:38:58
May 14 2019 11:38 GMT
#136
Zeros is better at Rakan and Xayah than Perkz and Mikyx too. lol
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 11:40 GMT
#137
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 14 2019 11:45 GMT
#138
As long as I get to see more of Zeros I'm happy. I love his all or nothing playstyle. :D
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 12:24 GMT
#139
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2019 12:29 GMT
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