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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
- Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks]
- Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week]
- geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month]
- geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month]
- zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year]
- Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month]
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 08 2017 12:04 GMT
#701
If SSG were to lose this game, would probably be the worst KR loss since Ozone dropping out of groups. And funnily enough, it's also Samsung...
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 08 2017 12:06 GMT
#702
Once again an Ekko dies in a late game fight going 1v4 doing nothing lol.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
October 08 2017 12:07 GMT
#703
Oh no, the Turkish dream is dead
You're now breathing manually
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 08 2017 12:07 GMT
#704
never play haru again
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 08 2017 12:08 GMT
#705
On October 08 2017 18:14 Redox wrote:
Thank god TSM did not also win this one. Would be so fucking undeserved to go 3-0 with their overall performance so far.

Very impressed by Misfits though. So much more proactive and agressive than I ever expected them to be. And Maxlore is a beast.

If I was TSM I would look to get Maxlore to replace Svenskeren for next season. :D


TSM just looks bad. Their wins are because of throws more than earning it.
One Love
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 08 2017 12:38 GMT
#706
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 08 2017 12:41 GMT
#707
On October 08 2017 21:38 JimmiC wrote:
Its funny how at 3 -1 people like TSM is legit now blah blah. After 1 loss they are actually bad a wins were flukes. Peoples views so extreme 😂


I think everyone with eyes saw their incredibly poor performances leading up to their loss. I am relatively sure you could read this thread to see everyone saying that.

Also POB is still garbage. God bless.
One Love
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 08 2017 13:11 GMT
#708
Feel like Gnar was not a good pick for this game. They need real lock down for Twitch and Janna, especially bc of Janna peel, and RNG built super hard around engaging team fights first, hence Sej/Mao and double Glory. Gnar can't split because by the time he TPs somewhere, Twitch will have killed half the team.

Gj by G2 to get that baron, and they finally had a good team fight. But Twitch just looks way too strong now, they'd need to catch him to really stand any chance.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 08 2017 13:25 GMT
#709
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 13:28:29
October 08 2017 13:26 GMT
#710
On October 08 2017 22:11 DarkCore wrote:
Feel like Gnar was not a good pick for this game. They need real lock down for Twitch and Janna, especially bc of Janna peel, and RNG built super hard around engaging team fights first, hence Sej/Mao and double Glory. Gnar can't split because by the time he TPs somewhere, Twitch will have killed half the team.

Gj by G2 to get that baron, and they finally had a good team fight. But Twitch just looks way too strong now, they'd need to catch him to really stand any chance.

I actually think the pick was fine in a vacuum. They did everything they needed to do early. Gnar bullied mao and got a lead. Trist was just roaming around killing towers. Issue is G2 is a very risk adverse reactive team so even though they did all that right they weren't willing to take the risk to get more. This let RNG just play defense to eventually even out the game. At that point the Gnar is just not offering much. The pick and draft was fine if it was team not called G2. Unfortunately in 3 years G2 haven't figured out how to step on the gas pedal when they need to.

Gnar should have been able to split push fine. Caster kept talking about Uzi roaming around in stealth making that not possible but the only reason he was able to do that was because G2 never once tried to establish control in RNG jungle. They were too scared to push their lead further. RNG could line up their jungle with control wards and just shut down the split push with barely any effort.

When pros and casters talk about how G2 is a good team being slept on they fail to remember this massive flaw in G2 that has always existed.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
October 08 2017 13:27 GMT
#711
Maybe that Gnar pick was one of Expect's "trust me, I'll carry" moments.

I do not consider TSM performances good or very bad, just think FW, WE and MSF are trash. Yes, Sven is doing his best to drag his team down to their level but overall they're still much better. As long as Doublelift won't mentally crumble after today's loss, TSM should be first.
You're now breathing manually
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
October 08 2017 13:53 GMT
#712
You're now breathing manually
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 14:00:50
October 08 2017 13:59 GMT
#713
Soaz is playing bad but he's not completely wrong. Fnatic looks pretty dam good when they focusing on mid/top side making Caps their primarily carry. Yet they seem to do that so rarely. Instead go into this "pray Rekkles can carry us" mode as default. Broxah does absolutely nothing 90% of the games and Jesiz is one of the worst supports at worlds if not the worst. He does nothing but babysit Rekkles while others know when to protect other lanes.

Actually thinking about it, is Broxah the worst jungler at worlds? So do fnatic have the worst support/jungle combination as well as worst individual in those roles?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 08 2017 14:03 GMT
#714
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 08 2017 14:07 GMT
#715
This MSF vs TSM so far has been a shit fest. I expected it to be a bit better from MSF side after all the talk.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
October 08 2017 14:13 GMT
#716
On October 08 2017 22:59 Numy wrote:
Actually thinking about it, is Broxah the worst jungler at worlds? So do fnatic have the worst support/jungle combination as well as worst individual in those roles?


Probably him or Sven.
You're now breathing manually
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 08 2017 14:21 GMT
#717
I think Sven edges it out because he's playing like shit while his team has been okay around him. Broxah doesn't have that luxury.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 08 2017 14:24 GMT
#718
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 08 2017 15:29 GMT
#719
Really? I've thought Sven has been terrible for a while now, pretty much all year. Hauntzer has almost always been a solid player, sometimes he has his bad moments but not the whole time like Sven.

On October 08 2017 22:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2017 22:11 DarkCore wrote:
Feel like Gnar was not a good pick for this game. They need real lock down for Twitch and Janna, especially bc of Janna peel, and RNG built super hard around engaging team fights first, hence Sej/Mao and double Glory. Gnar can't split because by the time he TPs somewhere, Twitch will have killed half the team.

Gj by G2 to get that baron, and they finally had a good team fight. But Twitch just looks way too strong now, they'd need to catch him to really stand any chance.

I actually think the pick was fine in a vacuum. They did everything they needed to do early. Gnar bullied mao and got a lead. Trist was just roaming around killing towers. Issue is G2 is a very risk adverse reactive team so even though they did all that right they weren't willing to take the risk to get more. This let RNG just play defense to eventually even out the game. At that point the Gnar is just not offering much. The pick and draft was fine if it was team not called G2. Unfortunately in 3 years G2 haven't figured out how to step on the gas pedal when they need to.

Gnar should have been able to split push fine. Caster kept talking about Uzi roaming around in stealth making that not possible but the only reason he was able to do that was because G2 never once tried to establish control in RNG jungle. They were too scared to push their lead further. RNG could line up their jungle with control wards and just shut down the split push with barely any effort.

When pros and casters talk about how G2 is a good team being slept on they fail to remember this massive flaw in G2 that has always existed.


Yeah, I don't think Gnar split is a bad thing in itself. But G2 were too afraid to run it, and then it's a terrible pick when Twitch is going to outscale so hard, especially because it's Uzi... It's a shame too, G2 really needed that win if they wanted to have a decent shot at making it out of groups, would've been a 3 way tie.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 08 2017 15:56 GMT
#720
On October 08 2017 23:03 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2017 21:41 Sleight wrote:
On October 08 2017 21:38 JimmiC wrote:
Its funny how at 3 -1 people like TSM is legit now blah blah. After 1 loss they are actually bad a wins were flukes. Peoples views so extreme 😂


I think everyone with eyes saw their incredibly poor performances leading up to their loss. I am relatively sure you could read this thread to see everyone saying that.

Also POB is still garbage. God bless.

1 week ban bet tsm makes it out of groups and/or 1 month sig bet?


I think they will make it out of groups. Because their whole group is garbage.
One Love
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