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Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 18:46:22
October 06 2017 18:46 GMT
#541
Monte and DoA really dropped in quality before they stopped, to the point where the entire cast basically became a whine at SPOTV and shilling for Overwatch, I don't miss them. I'd wish Achilios would have left with them though, since he basically does the same thing.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 06 2017 18:47 GMT
#542
I like Kobe but his co casters don't do it for me at all.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 06 2017 19:01 GMT
#543
On October 07 2017 03:46 Ansibled wrote:
Monte and DoA really dropped in quality before they stopped, to the point where the entire cast basically became a whine at SPOTV and shilling for Overwatch, I don't miss them. I'd wish Achilios would have left with them though, since he basically does the same thing.

Cranky old man, what casters do you like?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 19:06:42
October 06 2017 19:06 GMT
#544
I'm still baffled by the overwatch shilling. It's like they want it to blow up in their faces.

Kobe and Deficio are both great. Riv word salad is always funny. Just try count the number of times he actually finishes a sentence.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 06 2017 19:17 GMT
#545
On October 07 2017 03:20 Scip wrote:
I'd say the top tier commentators are in no particular order Phreak, MonteCristo, Doa, Krepo (?)
Overall the level of casting in LoL is pretty low though imo, compared to say DotA2

Krepo doesn't belong in this discussion.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 06 2017 19:46 GMT
#546
On October 07 2017 03:03 Ansibled wrote:
lol casters in general suck so, it doesn't seem like anything new. Vedius and Pastry are both awful.

Vedius doesn't deserve primetime casting spots. I thought putting him with Flowers during playins was fine, because it was amateur hour for Worlds, but there is no reason why he should be doing groups, and god forbid, bracket. I don't dislike any caster more than I dislike Vedius. I'd rather listen to LS cast again.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 06 2017 20:03 GMT
#547
On October 07 2017 04:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2017 03:03 Ansibled wrote:
lol casters in general suck so, it doesn't seem like anything new. Vedius and Pastry are both awful.

Vedius doesn't deserve primetime casting spots. I thought putting him with Flowers during playins was fine, because it was amateur hour for Worlds, but there is no reason why he should be doing groups, and god forbid, bracket. I don't dislike any caster more than I dislike Vedius. I'd rather listen to LS cast again.

Vedius isn't as bad and his voice isn't as annoying as LS's, but yah he shouldn't be casting worlds.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 06 2017 20:04 GMT
#548
On October 06 2017 23:08 geript wrote:
but everyone seems to be playing Cho for the scaling ult which tbh is mediocre in. Mid-late game due to his lack of reliable cc.


Cho priority is because it allows your jungler to park bottom lane without putting the top laner behind. He's just the most stable and hard to zone laner of all the tanks

Bonus points for decent waveclear and objective control.

His alt is aiight but iirc the stone plate interaction was nerfed by the worlds patch so he's not going to be one shotting anyone and he isn't going to touch the adc with a 10 ft pole if this lulu/Janna popularity continues.

As a prediction I feel like Taric will be the contested support pick by the finals
Carrilord has arrived.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 20:06:19
October 06 2017 20:05 GMT
#549
From the current casters, I feel deficio is by far the best.

In 2014/5, when lol started for me, I was hooked by Doa/Monte, and that synergy has never been matched by another duo. Or well, let's say I never had the same feeling as I had then.

I just saw the SKT game from today. Some people may feel SKT looked shaky, but in the later parts of the game I saw some absolutely brilliant stuff. They're on a completely different level.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 06 2017 20:16 GMT
#550
I think we can all agree that while the current caster analyst pool is dlrelatively deep, there are few (1?) Play by play guys who are at the Jatt-Kobe-Deficio level.

I watched DoA cast since he was with moletrap and it took him awhile to get to form. Maybe captain flowers will one day reach those heights.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 06 2017 20:17 GMT
#551
I am sad to admit I turned off the stream at 5 AM to sleep, thinking "this is going to be a repeat of LCK finals, sigh".
I woke up today pleasantly surprised. I won't doubt anymore for the rest of Worlds.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 20:25:51
October 06 2017 20:25 GMT
#552
I really don't give two shits about analysis. They should and do cater their analysis downwards. So I love Rivington and Kobe. They are masters of hype. Captain Flowers is coming along on that front.

THEY DID IT. THEY FFFFF...GODDAMN DID IT. I NEVER DOUBTED THEM.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 06 2017 20:36 GMT
#553
Yea I agree it took Doa a long while to get good. But he showed the ability to improve, which honestly feels really rare among casters lol
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 20:55:57
October 06 2017 20:54 GMT
#554
On October 07 2017 04:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2017 03:46 Ansibled wrote:
Monte and DoA really dropped in quality before they stopped, to the point where the entire cast basically became a whine at SPOTV and shilling for Overwatch, I don't miss them. I'd wish Achilios would have left with them though, since he basically does the same thing.

Cranky old man, what casters do you like?

Kobe, Rivington, Raz, Deficio, Atlus, Valdes.
Doa before S6, Monte before S5, Joe Miller.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 06 2017 20:57 GMT
#555
idr Raz, Atlus, Valdes. I'll try to pay attention to them if they're casting at Worlds.
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9200 Posts
October 06 2017 21:05 GMT
#556
I unironically like Quikshot when he's paired with Deficio
You're now breathing manually
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 06 2017 21:16 GMT
#557
I like Quickshot as long as he's with somebody that can keep him from doing color. Once he has to try and cover for other people, it's all downhill.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 06 2017 21:16 GMT
#558
Where is that guy, haven't seen him at worlds. Did I just miss him?
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 06 2017 21:30 GMT
#559
On October 07 2017 03:46 Ansibled wrote:
Monte and DoA really dropped in quality before they stopped, to the point where the entire cast basically became a whine at SPOTV and shilling for Overwatch, I don't miss them. I'd wish Achilios would have left with them though, since he basically does the same thing.


They were both pretty unhappy with the way Riot treated them, so I can understand them. They will always remain my favourite casters, they made up 50% of the entertainment of the LCK/OGN, the rest was watching good teams duke it out. I particularly liked Monte because I disagreed with his opinions of the game, but knew that his stance was backed by analysis of the game and research of the scene.

Yea I agree it took Doa a long while to get good. But he showed the ability to improve, which honestly feels really rare among casters lol


When did you start watching? I began watching LoL in 2012, and I loved Doa from the start, he is the perfect counterpart to Monte. Honestly interested, I can't remember him changing much, I never paid much attention to caster progression.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 21:48:36
October 06 2017 21:43 GMT
#560
Moletrap= one of his co commentators in sc2


I love how monte ridiculed the LCs for no booths for years and now the newly unveiled bliz studio has no booths lol
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