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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

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Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 05 2017 11:56 GMT
#421
The Faker fangirls OMG
Faker is the GOAT!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 05 2017 12:28 GMT
#422
New meta, Bramble vest on Corki
Faker is the GOAT!
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 12:45:27
October 05 2017 12:41 GMT
#423
Insane how iBoy could match An's damage in that earlyish teamfight topside. If the Lulu ult could have been saved for Kog instead of Shen I think the quadra would have went the other way.

That being said it's stupid how "hyper carries" pop off at 1-2 completed items now. :-/

On October 05 2017 21:28 AzAlexZ wrote:
New meta, Bramble vest on Corki

It is pretty clever imo it's fairly cheap, Lucian lands alot of autos due to passive and as a small bonus sorcs should increase the reflect damage too. Hell it's decent vs Kog'Maw too due to the AS stacking.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 05 2017 13:24 GMT
#424
Why is Westdoor playing? I don't get AHQ, do they just love playing with handicaps? Managed to pull through but man shouldn't be that hard against tiltlords Clearlove Crew
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 14:04:14
October 05 2017 13:49 GMT
#425
This GAM vs FNC game is the best league of legends I've watched in forever.

edit: that penta steal oh my god
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 05 2017 13:51 GMT
#426
On October 05 2017 22:24 Numy wrote:
Why is Westdoor playing? I don't get AHQ, do they just love playing with handicaps? Managed to pull through but man shouldn't be that hard against tiltlords Clearlove Crew


Ahq paid off by Jack to get C9 to quarters.
One Love
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 14:23:08
October 05 2017 14:08 GMT
#427
I hate watching league recently. Every second game feels like teams just don't want to take risks after the early game and just rotate around the map taking easy objectives. It's like laneswaps but with a watchable early phase. I should stop trying to watch the vods right after waking up, kept dozing off and wasted my morning.

My impressions:

G2 vs SSG
G2 did okay. They're nothing special, but didn't crash and burn so there is a chance they won't be a giant embarrassment like the rest of European teams. Ambition was invisible but maybe Samsung's plan was to just play it safe and wait for the laning phase to end.

FNC vs GAM
Broxah missed 2 out 3 important cocoons in the early game - first in the bot lane dive, then tried to gank kass mid and finally nailed one on flashless Lulu right after Soaz died top trying to 1v2 while 3 levels down. Bad luck or tilt, doesn't look too good.
Both Soaz and Archie looked like they had no idea how to play from behind. Soaz deserves a lot of blame for being greedy instead of accepting his temporary worthlessness, but he was kind of left alone by his team too many times.
Whole Fnatic had terrible macro. Could be because they were afraid of the Nocturne ult, but if they can't adapt to something like that, they should forget about getting out of the group.

Marines are good, but I still think they should place last.

SKT vs C9
Not much to say besides Faker is a god. There should be no surprises in this group.

Edit: Nvm lol, AHQ has a chance and EDG is no longer a safe 2nd place bet.
You're now breathing manually
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
October 05 2017 14:36 GMT
#428
I didn't see it because of the time, but how did EDG possibly manage to lose to AHQ?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 05 2017 14:43 GMT
#429
On October 05 2017 23:36 General_Winter wrote:
I didn't see it because of the time, but how did EDG possibly manage to lose to AHQ?

Game was basically two teams incapable of pushing any advantages until the game got to a 50 minute teamfight blob with AHQ winning due to having better scaling tanks.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 05 2017 15:27 GMT
#430
On October 05 2017 23:43 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 23:36 General_Winter wrote:
I didn't see it because of the time, but how did EDG possibly manage to lose to AHQ?

Game was basically two teams incapable of pushing any advantages until the game got to a 50 minute teamfight blob with AHQ winning due to having better scaling tanks.


I love how bad both EDG and AHQ (Westdoor) look. If C9 can't get out on their own merits, let's do it over the headless corpses of EDG and AHQ.
One Love
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 17:05:03
October 05 2017 17:04 GMT
#431
It's impossible for me to watch the games live, so ill start my vodwatching now. I heard EDG performed as expected xD
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 05 2017 17:17 GMT
#432
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 05 2017 17:41 GMT
#433
On October 06 2017 02:17 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 02:04 Yorbon wrote:
It's impossible for me to watch the games live, so ill start my vodwatching now. I heard EDG performed as expected xD

Gam vs fnatic was my favorite by far.

I think the idea of cheese in League is usually a meme but this is one of the few exceptions and I found it impressive as fk.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 05 2017 17:42 GMT
#434
On October 06 2017 02:17 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 02:04 Yorbon wrote:
It's impossible for me to watch the games live, so ill start my vodwatching now. I heard EDG performed as expected xD

Gam vs fnatic was my favorite by far.

will watch gam next!

Just watched skt, it's simply amazing just how much better they were than c9. The call to kill Huni, while losing an inhibitor was mindboggling. It felt like they already gave up at that point.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 05 2017 17:43 GMT
#435
We've known C9 struggle with executing gameplans past brute strength laning so it's understandable how lost they looked against SKT. GAM game was brilliant. IMT game was pretty fun when contrasted with G2 game. They ended in similar fashions but there was quite a different in how teams went about getting to that point.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 05 2017 17:46 GMT
#436
On October 06 2017 02:42 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 02:17 JimmiC wrote:
On October 06 2017 02:04 Yorbon wrote:
It's impossible for me to watch the games live, so ill start my vodwatching now. I heard EDG performed as expected xD

Gam vs fnatic was my favorite by far.

will watch gam next!

Just watched skt, it's simply amazing just how much better they were than c9. The call to kill Huni, while losing an inhibitor was mindboggling. It felt like they already gave up at that point.

That 4 man on Huni was definitely C9 table flipping. There's no way that was a reasonable response to 1 Maokai splitpushing.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 05 2017 17:46 GMT
#437
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 17:51:57
October 05 2017 17:49 GMT
#438
It was cheese. It's just league doesn't have good cheese. People pick one hero and call that cheese. Bullshit man. Cheese is when your formulate your gameplan around something off center and execute that completely. Just slotting in a pick while playing the same is like cheesy air at best

Love how many different playstyles we got this time around. LZ with their crazy top side of the map with the anchor bottom. SKT with normal pressure style while having a more aggressive tint. SSG with slow methodical rotation game. GAM with crazy balls to the walls anything to gain an advantage and put opponent off tilt.

A bit sad all the EU teams lost their individuality since Huhi/RO Fnatic left and G2 became undisputed number 1.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 18:02:24
October 05 2017 18:01 GMT
#439
On October 06 2017 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 02:42 Yorbon wrote:
On October 06 2017 02:17 JimmiC wrote:
On October 06 2017 02:04 Yorbon wrote:
It's impossible for me to watch the games live, so ill start my vodwatching now. I heard EDG performed as expected xD

Gam vs fnatic was my favorite by far.

will watch gam next!

Just watched skt, it's simply amazing just how much better they were than c9. The call to kill Huni, while losing an inhibitor was mindboggling. It felt like they already gave up at that point.

That 4 man on Huni was definitely C9 table flipping. There's no way that was a reasonable response to 1 Maokai splitpushing.

Eh. You have to consider what was going to happen if they didn't go for it - 95% chance they're losing mid inhib anyway. At least by getting Maokai, you 1) get some kill gold; 2) prevent a second inhibitor from being taken; 3) maybe set up a 5v4 fight afterwards; 4) maybe bait SKT into making a mistake to come save Maokai; 5) get some mental satisfaction from a good ol' Maokai 4-man gangbang.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 05 2017 18:02 GMT
#440
Oh can anyone tell me why Ryze is suddenly being picked again? He still seems bad?
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