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arrow only feels overrated because markz/scarra go crazy about him on their shows which just happen to be the most popular shows right now for league
trickles down to reddit as well
he's an excellent player and best ADC NA currently but he's not s3 bjergsen relative to their league at the time
On April 16 2017 05:17 Numy wrote:
P1 is so weird. Stunt plays a bunch and in series before this. Now he's not playing. Meteos comes in does a great job, now it's just Inori every game. What the hell is going on.
dunno but only reason I'm hesitant on judging them for it is because their drafts have been great so im assuming the coach is competent
i too dont see a point to shady inori though
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Always felt support is one of the worst roles to keep changing since it's kind of a "foundation" for the team.
P1 is just getting destroyed. It's like they just rolling over and dying with little to no resistance.
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Why bother using the shield when they won't dodge the spear? I like using Ray here
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Scumbag Sneaky taking the penta from Contractz.
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P1 looks real bad. C9 is looking ok. Contractz is still an absolute beast. Looks like another season of LCS with only 2 real teams in the whole league.
edit: Now P1 changes almost half their team mid series. This team is so random.
edit2: yea this is easy 3-0. Rather sad P1 putting up essentially no resistance whole series. Don't know what this team is thinking with drafts/roster/play. If they manage to turn this around it'll be a dam miracle.
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On April 16 2017 05:58 Numy wrote:
P1 looks real bad. C9 is looking ok. Contractz is still an absolute beast. Looks like another season of LCS with only 2 real teams in the whole league.
edit: Now P1 changes almost half their team mid series. This team is so random.
edit2: yea this is easy 3-0. Rather sad P1 putting up essentially no resistance whole series. Don't know what this team is thinking with drafts/roster/play. If they manage to turn this around it'll be a dam miracle.
Welp, looks like Inori + Shady vs. Meteos + Stunt makes no difference, C9 stomps them either way.
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That whole series was Contractz stepping up and proving why C9 brought him on for Spring Split.
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It's more just anything stable. Constantly changing around series after series sounds like a really bad way to build a solid team.
Man this series was a complete stomp. G2 vs Fnatic was close compared to this. Is NA LCS just going to be 2 real teams and 8 inters forever?
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On April 16 2017 06:50 Numy wrote:
It's more just anything stable. Constantly changing around series after series sounds like a really bad way to build a solid team.
Man this series was a complete stomp. G2 vs Fnatic was close compared to this. Is NA LCS just going to be 2 real teams and 8 inters forever?
This feels a little unfair to P1 to me. Yes, they got smashed in week 9 by both TSM and C9, then proceeded to get smashed even harder by C9 in Playoffs.
At the same time, TSM, C9 and P1 all looked shaky at one time or another during the split, and while now C9 and TSM are clearly a tier above them, this wasn't the case throughout the regular split. P1 were legitimate contenders for a top-2 finish all the way up to the final week of the regular split, and I for one favored them over C9 leading up to that 9th-week showdown (C9 went 2-2 over the previous 2 weeks, compared to P1's 4-0). P1 had lost their 1st series vs. TSM, but they'd won vs. C9 in week 5.
The race for the top honestly looked like a 3-horse race to me, until P1 decided to fall into a slump at the worst possible time.
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On April 16 2017 09:02 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2017 06:50 Numy wrote:
It's more just anything stable. Constantly changing around series after series sounds like a really bad way to build a solid team.
Man this series was a complete stomp. G2 vs Fnatic was close compared to this. Is NA LCS just going to be 2 real teams and 8 inters forever? This feels a little unfair to P1 to me. Yes, they got smashed in week 9 by both TSM and C9, then proceeded to get smashed even harder by C9 in Playoffs. At the same time, TSM, C9 and P1 all looked shaky at one time or another during the split, and while now C9 and TSM are clearly a tier above them, this wasn't the case throughout the regular split. P1 were legitimate contenders for a top-2 finish all the way up to the final week of the regular split, and I for one favored them over C9 leading up to that 9th-week showdown (C9 went 2-2 over the previous 2 weeks, compared to P1's 4-0). P1 had lost their 1st series vs. TSM, but they'd won vs. C9 in week 5. The race for the top honestly looked like a 3-horse race to me, until P1 decided to fall into a slump at the worst possible time.
The issue I have with this is that P1 beat the lower end teams and lost to or at best scraped an even record against the top teams. Then they get slaughtered in playoffs. That's the hallmark of a team at the top of the middle of the pack and not at the very top of the league. Maybe if they manage to pull through next season we can say they in the running for a top team.
Just as a side note you can't just scoff off their "slumping". When it mattered most the team didn't perform. That's a huge negative for them. There seems to be a massive lack of players and teams with BMT in Western league. The few players I can think of are mostly old guard like Soaz. Over the years "league" play seems to have been propped up as so important that this fundamental aspect of competition has kind of faded. Where are the Xpekes, Soazs, Diamonds, Alex Ichs. The guys who when shit hits the fan and all is on the line they step up to perform miracles. That's what made Bengi so freaking scary. The guy could have the worst split ever but you just knew come crunch time when SKT needed him he'd be there to bail them out.
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Have to go with TSM tradition and lose game 1 in addition to avoid the Hai reverse sweep.
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Yeah, Flyquest is perfectly capable of taking a game here if they get a big enough early game lead. TSM are the overwhelming favorites to take the series though.
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Welp, looking like a 3-0 sweep for TSM.
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Not as bad as expected from FLY in game 1. If Altec hit that bunny on bjergson that could have ended differently. Fairly sloppy from both teams but that's not surprising for a FLY game.
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I'm expecting a 3-1 TSM win, mainly because Hai's going to go off one game and 1v9.
Game 1's problem for Flyquest was that Altec got behind on CS in lane phase, which stalled his item progression during the pivotal moments in the mid game while Wildturtle hit his 2 item power spike on time and snowballed with it. Him missing a couple key arrows in the mid game fights is also a big problem.
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Have my doubts about FQ managing to get one game unless TSM drops the ball hard.
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On April 17 2017 05:21 Numy wrote:
Have my doubts about FQ managing to get one game unless TSM drops the ball hard.
I don't think TSM will drop any games in playoffs. Cloud9 had close victories against Phoenix1, and I think against an actually decent team C9 will be completely crushed.
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On April 17 2017 05:36 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2017 05:21 Numy wrote:
Have my doubts about FQ managing to get one game unless TSM drops the ball hard. I don't think TSM will drop any games in playoffs. Cloud9 had close victories against Phoenix1, and I think against an actually decent team C9 will be completely crushed.
Honestly disagree with C9 vs P1 being close. C9 just plays a pretty patient game so they didn't crush through lanes in most of the games. P1 never had a chance in any of those games really. C9 had complete control and just crushed them so hard.
So FQ is still pretty sad team. They got really lucky to face the other worst team in playoffs. Obviously any other team besides C9 would just lose anyway but at least they'd put up a bit of a fight. Well I hope they would...
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I really don't understand the whole AD Kennen top crap. I guess BotRK is slightly better, but the days of a lane dominant AD Kennen in top lane are looooong over. Might as well go AP if you're gonna sack a lane so you actually do something late game. Specially if you're gonna build tabbi/two dorans/Jaurim's Fist... at what point are you ever going to be a threat?
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