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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 04 2016 13:03 GMT
#101
On March 04 2016 22:02 MuddyJam wrote:
TSM won yet? i saw they had a huge lead early and left to go watch sc2

They just lost the game
Glorious SEA doto
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 04 2016 13:04 GMT
#102
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 04 2016 13:05 GMT
#103
Even in the penta kill teamfight Dlift missed 4 Qs. If he had not missed easy Q in the last team fight the game could also have been saved.
Off-season = best season
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 04 2016 13:05 GMT
#104
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
March 04 2016 13:06 GMT
#105
I'm crying from the cuteness
Dating thread on TL LUL
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 04 2016 13:06 GMT
#106
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


I think it can work but not to the same success as having a single dedicated main shotcaller, which Yellowstar is.
Hibzy
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom445 Posts
March 04 2016 13:07 GMT
#107
Oh my gosh I just wanna hug Key, he's the cutest!
"Uhh, I just have an insanely good sense of fashion." -TLO
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
March 04 2016 13:08 GMT
#108
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 04 2016 13:09 GMT
#109
Loken played so good in that last fight. Like really, really good.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 04 2016 13:10 GMT
#110
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics

How the fuck is giving information shotcalling?????? Saying "x used flash we can dive bot" is not fucking shotcalling.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 04 2016 13:10 GMT
#111
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics


We've heard how TSM does their shotcalling through numerous "Mic checks" though. They shout over one another while Yellowstar can barely be heard through it all
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
March 04 2016 13:10 GMT
#112
This was probably more satisfying than just outright beating TSM from the beginning tbh
xd
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
March 04 2016 13:12 GMT
#113
Is reginald going to blame leaked comms for the loose? Don't touch that browser!
Science>Mechanics
Radoq
Profile Joined January 2015
1809 Posts
March 04 2016 13:12 GMT
#114
Wait, Riot allowed G2A ad?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 04 2016 13:12 GMT
#115
On March 04 2016 22:12 Radoq wrote:
Wait, Riot allowed G2A ad?

It's ESL stream, not Riot's.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35126 Posts
March 04 2016 13:13 GMT
#116
Makes me happy that my stream froze from tournament server going down and buffered all the way to gg. At least I don't have to be disappointed by watching the game.
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
March 04 2016 13:14 GMT
#117
On March 04 2016 22:10 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics


We've heard how TSM does their shotcalling through numerous "Mic checks" though. They shout over one another while Yellowstar can barely be heard through it all


shot calling is not managing a tf. Macro play has nothing to do with how a team fight is played out. You could have beautiful calling during a tf and still be a clown fiesta and vise versa. The mic checks you see in riots stuff makes for a nice 5 minute video but doesn't really give much insight. A better example would be the mic check on SKT a while back where they are planning mores for the next minute talking about rengar ulti and what is there plan.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 04 2016 13:15 GMT
#118
On March 04 2016 22:10 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics

How the fuck is giving information shotcalling?????? Saying "x used flash we can dive bot" is not fucking shotcalling.

You can also include stuff like "we should dive bot, no summs" in giving information or in shotcalling. In any case having no designated shot caller (Hai style) is standard.
Off-season = best season
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
March 04 2016 13:15 GMT
#119
you just know that doublelift took over shotcalling after he got that penta
bisu
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 13:18:41
March 04 2016 13:17 GMT
#120
On March 04 2016 22:15 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:10 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics

How the fuck is giving information shotcalling?????? Saying "x used flash we can dive bot" is not fucking shotcalling.

You can also include stuff like "we should dive bot, no summs" in giving information or in shotcalling. In any case having no designated shot caller (Hai style) is standard.

No you can't put that in shotcalling. Making a decision and offering a decision has nothing in common.

If you use the words can/should/etc you aren't shotcalling.
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