EPTAlso, maybe AmazingJ was better, idk if putting in Koro1 was the best choice.
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Uldridge
Belgium4773 Posts
Also, maybe AmazingJ was better, idk if putting in Koro1 was the best choice. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:49 Uldridge wrote: Im REALLY impressed with Fnatic. Also, maybe AmazingJ was better, idk if putting in Koro1 was the best choice. g1 he was definitely better, g2 he majorly fucked up in a snowball matchup then got the ever loving shit camped out of him with a fed lb and riven on other team. G3 he did ok. still waiting for a series that isn't a stomp...hoping tomorrow will have a good one | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:37 Sufficiency wrote: To be honest I rather see QG or Snake playing at World's. At least they are not bloated by money. They're just as bloated by money as any other Chinese E-sports organization. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:46 FKAri wrote: Why are they so successful in dota2 with a much smaller playerbase? I think China might have the same issue as NA. Where streaming is so lucrative that being a pro is more stress for a marginal gain. The talent doesn't really want to go pro and when it does it's more about enjoying the short ride. For one, they don't import 40% of their player base in Dota, and so have to develop their players themselves... But of greater importance, I think, is that Dota has A LOT of international tournaments, and this helps a region that has a bad practice culture because they don't need to practice when they get their experience straight from a dozen+ tournaments. Chinese Dota doesn't need to figure out a patch in isolation of everyone else, the way they do in LoL. They're able to do it through playing - and losing, usually - against Western teams at the start of a version. Then come the big tournaments, they're already hardened against that version and know how to play it. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
If KOO beats KT, I think fnatic will play finals. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:51 Azarkon wrote: But of greater importance, I think, is that Dota has A LOT of international tournaments, and this helps a region that has a bad practice culture because they don't need to practice when they get their experience straight from a dozen+ tournaments. Chinese Dota doesn't need to figure out a patch in isolation of everyone else, the way they do in LoL. They're able to do it through playing - and losing, usually - against Western teams at the start of a version. Then come the big tournaments, they're already hardened against that version and know how to play it. It also helps that major patches in DotA are significantly less frequent, so a region whose habits thrive in a stable, developed version will perform better because there are less periods of new patch instability. | ||
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REyeM
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:54 Azarkon wrote: To support what I said above, the worst year for Chinese Dota was 2013, and this was the year in which there were the smallest amount of tournaments for Chinese teams to go to. If memory serves it was also the year in which the pre-TI patch was closest to the main event. Though that year was exceptionally strange given the weird ACE decision to limit top team participation in even domestic tournaments. A lot of backward decisions were made that year in Chinese DotA, lol. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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Crowgf
United States28 Posts
If korea also falls it will be the worst tournament in years I'm bored | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:56 Kenpark wrote: Rekkles saying they can take the whole thing and Febiven stating they have been scrimming all teams basicaly, makes me all fuzzy inside. So they must at least not get smashed by SKT in scrims. Fnatic 3:2 SKT finals the dream for the greatest moment in esports. Actually SKT 3:2 Fnatic would be the greatest moment in esports. Korea assassinated, humiliated, depreciated, and finally, restored. The glory. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:57 Crowgf wrote: this has been a MUCH worse / less entertaining worlds than 2013 or 2014.. If korea also falls it will be the worst tournament in years I'm bored skillwise maybe but unless you are a diehard chinese fan don't see how is this one the most boring | ||
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FKAri
Canada84 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:49 Uldridge wrote: Im REALLY impressed with Fnatic. Also, maybe AmazingJ was better, idk if putting in Koro1 was the best choice. Why? Because he got camped? He did make a mistake in lane as fiora vs riven which prompted FNC to capitalize but he outplayed Huni several times too. I hate this logic where people look at CS numbers and say "oh wow he's so good!". Some teams really help their tops get ahead others don't. EDG helped Koro more than they helped AmazingJ tho. AmazingJ got the Dyrus treatment vs SKT. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:54 Azarkon wrote: To support what I said above, the worst year for Chinese Dota was 2013, and this was the year in which there were the smallest amount of tournaments for Chinese teams to go to. Oh, that year where TongFu was robbed of TI finals LOL. | ||
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FKAri
Canada84 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:58 Maluk wrote: Actually SKT 3:2 Fnatic would be the greatest moment in esports. Korea assassinated, humiliated, depreciated, and finally, restored. The glory. There will be no glory. FNC vs OG finals. EU masterrace. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:55 TheYango wrote: If memory serves it was also the year in which the pre-TI patch was closest to the main event. Though that year was exceptionally strange given the weird ACE decision to limit top team participation in even domestic tournaments. A lot of backward decisions were made that year in Chinese DotA, lol. It also was the year in which Chinese Dota was acting the same way Chinese LoL was acting prior to this year's worlds - ie "Western teams don't know what they're doing. We're going to crush them." etc. a month before Alliance went to China and completely crushed all Chinese teams. Even so, they placed 4th in 2013, which I think just goes out to show that Dota international competition is, in fact, weaker than LoL competition due to the absence of Korea. Thus, even a completely clueless China in 2013 was able to go in and smash all but the two best Western teams and one SEA team. Not so in LoL because of Korea. | ||
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Crowgf
United States28 Posts
On October 18 2015 02:58 nafta wrote: skillwise maybe but unless you are a diehard chinese fan don't see how is this one the most boring skillwise, yes. there hasn't been a good series yet and none of the b01's were good either. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
Don't be silly. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 18 2015 03:00 Azarkon wrote: Even so, they placed 4th in 2013, which I think just goes out to show that Dota international competition is, in fact, weaker than LoL competition due to the absence of Korea. I mean, that goes without saying, simply because in DotA NA has internationally relevant teams. | ||
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