EPTOn October 05 2015 06:35 Itsmedudeman wrote:
When it's the world championship it does.
When it's the world championship it does.
So, Sneaky > Imp, Incarnation > Godv?. Great logic.
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orzeu
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So, Sneaky > Imp, Incarnation > Godv?. Great logic. | ||
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Zato-1
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On October 05 2015 06:36 orzeu wrote: So, Sneaky > Imp, Incarnation > Godv?. Great logic. I don't see anything wrong with Sneaky > Imp and Incarnation > Godv | ||
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orzeu
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On October 05 2015 06:46 krndandaman wrote: rofl that strawman I don't see the point of bringing up who's historically the better shotcaller since that's totally irrelevant right now. I'm talking about the present and hai as a shotcaller has been much more effective than PYL this tournament. PYL going full dora vs TSM and picking those terrible fights (not calling TP's either) have been absolutely terrible. save the historical comparison for later. it doesn't mean everything but it matters much more than domestic leagues. I also don't see how this is relevant to anything. Yeah, 3 bo1's on random patch > whole 2015 performance. | ||
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ghrur
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orzeu
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On October 05 2015 07:06 ghrur wrote: Hmmmm, salty as fuck indeed :3. I mean, people can deny results all they want, but LGD is 0-3, and you wanna call C9 out for being exposed? LOL. Please. They didn't get expose, they will. According to this thread: NA > China, every player on LGD/iG is shit based on 3 bo1's. | ||
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Sufficiency
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On October 05 2015 07:09 orzeu wrote: They didn't get expose, they will. According to this thread: NA > China, every player on LGD/iG is shit based on 3 bo1's. I am not so sure about that. Looking at LGD and it's pretty clear that they have no shotcalling nor any sense of decision making. Draft was atrocious too. The game vs TSM was particularly problematic where they just went in one by one to feed Bjergsen et al. Maybe LGD is simply in a slump or they jetlagged; hard to say. But the reality is that LGD is not doing well at all and I think they are pretty much doomed for next week as well. At this point, one must question if Snake/QC could have brought up a better fight. | ||
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Zato-1
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On October 05 2015 07:09 orzeu wrote: They didn't get expose, they will. According to this thread: NA > China, every player on LGD/iG is shit based on 3 bo1's. Going full TSM defense, I like it | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On October 05 2015 07:09 orzeu wrote: They didn't get expose, they will. According to this thread: NA > China, every player on LGD/iG is shit based on 3 bo1's. First of all, I don't think people have been saying all players on LGD and iG are shit. I'm pretty sure people have been saying TBQ is shit, and he is. LGD has also become shit, and they have based on our current available data. Do you have better data? If you do, pray tell. If not, please tell how LGD losing in such embarrassing fashion should be ignored. I mean, did you watch LGD vs KT? LGD's comp was god-awful and their play was completely lost. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
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On October 05 2015 07:16 ghrur wrote: First of all, I don't think people have been saying all players on LGD and iG are shit. I'm pretty sure people have been saying TBQ is shit, and he is. LGD has also become shit, and they have based on our current available data. Do you have better data? If you do, pray tell. If not, please tell how LGD losing in such embarrassing fashion should be ignored. I mean, did you watch LGD vs KT? LGD's comp was god-awful and their play was completely lost. I'm pretty sure this guy hates C9 so much that C9 could go all the way to finals, lose 2-3 to SKT, and he'd still come back and say: "See? This team is trash and it's finally been exposed by a competent team." | ||
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Numy
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On October 05 2015 07:21 wei2coolman wrote: Pretty much everyone's idea of pro league of legends is fucking bork'd after the first week of Worlds'. Well TSM is still garbage so at least that's consistent. Seriously though people need to not overreact to bo1s. We don't know how any of these teams will have faired against each other in series play so basing any conclusions on the week is a bit dodgy. Only real things we know is that SKT,OG,EDG and C9 are looking pretty good. | ||
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They showed a lot of interesting picks and strategies in the gauntlet (some good, some bad), and they even had a losing record with Trist comps in the gauntlet, so I dunno. I don't think you can say they only have one comp until someone forces them off it and C9 fails. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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On October 05 2015 07:25 Numy wrote: Well TSM is still garbage so at least that's consistent. Seriously though people need to not overreact to bo1s. We don't know how any of these teams will have faired against each other in series play so basing any conclusions on the week is a bit dodgy. Only real things we know is that SKT,OG,EDG and C9 are looking pretty good. Well, I'd argue that playing in different tournament structures is also important. Group stages are a part of most major tournaments so you can't just be shit at it and think that's okay. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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On October 05 2015 07:28 krndandaman wrote: I'm still shocked that of all teams, TSM utilized TP better than the supposed 'best macro team in China'. Like, if Dyrus/TSM uses TP better than you you know you're fucked. PYL goes aggro with Brand when Acorn's TP is down vs Thresh and they die to Darius tp which was free as fuck. Then while Acorn TP is up, they don't even care about doing anything and Acorn's TP is left unused until Dyrus' is back up. It's mindboggling. also like someone mentioned the other day, Acorn was visibly upset with his team in an interview yesterday so there might be some internal conflict between the players which leads to shit communication/calls like the situation above where a basic 'hey I don't have TP care' would avoid giving FB. Imo nobody is looking at the game from a big picture point of view. I'd have expected PYL to do this but clearly he hasn't. There was also the second game against KT where they got baited multiple times by the double teleport and kept trying to force fights bottom when they couldn't. Shotcalling and leadership is an issue right now. They're playing on impulse and getting punished. | ||
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Numy
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On October 05 2015 07:34 Itsmedudeman wrote: Well, I'd argue that playing in different tournament structures is also important. Group stages are a part of most major tournaments so you can't just be shit at it and think that's okay. I would agree but then I realized what major tournaments are you talking about. There is only worlds for LoL so it's a big disingenuous to say "most major tournaments" when it's only 1. If teams played in more tournaments that included this mass bo1 play than sure it would be a skill that is vital but for most of the year bo1 play doesn't matter at all. It's a bit crazy if you think about it. We've even had Western pros coming out and saying how little regular season matters for them. Anyway discussing that line further would just get into tournament structure which makes me sad and mad while having no place in LR thread. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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On October 05 2015 07:41 Numy wrote: I would agree but then I realized what major tournaments are you talking about. There is only worlds for LoL so it's a big disingenuous to say "most major tournaments" when it's only 1. If teams played in more tournaments that included this mass bo1 play than sure it would be a skill that is vital but for most of the year bo1 play doesn't matter at all. It's a bit crazy if you think about it. We've even had Western pros coming out and saying how little regular season matters for them. Anyway discussing that line further would just get into tournament structure which makes me sad and mad while having no place in LR thread. MSI | ||
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