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On October 05 2015 04:52 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 04:38 orzeu wrote: Watching Fnatic vs C9 30 min in, how the fuck they did throw after getting inhib? Hai is a god. More like Fnatic has no idea how to play Yasuo comp, they fucked up 2 engages. Every team should ban Azir/Trist vs C9 and Veigar if you don't have counter. Wouldn't be surprise if they lose rest game with this bans. Fast pushing help them to hide Balls/Hai early game and Sneaky can just perma push lane, so Lemonation doesn't need to do shit.
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No disrespect to the teams but I still can't believe c9 and og are 3-0 in groups. They surely can't be upsets when they keep happening.
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C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.
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I kind of saw OG doing well and coming 2nd by not too far off but didn't expect LGD to collapse so hard so it makes sense that with that OG is now top of the group. OG is super good at slow games and everyone in that group aside from LGD play really slowly. It's almost the perfect group for OG to do well.
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OG doing well isn't that big surprise, they have good roster, xPeke is clutch player and their new coach (Hermit) is super smart. Like I said before tournament started: Nagne will not abuse Peke and Arrow is busted.
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On October 05 2015 02:44 MattBarry wrote:Group A and C are a nice break from the complete madness and chaos that is group B&D Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 02:44 Naphal wrote: CLG / FNC are like "we were the chosen ones!"
well anakin skywalker thought the same...
luckily there is OG Wan C9obi Yeah but Anakin was the chosen one. It just took him a while He brought balance to the force. 2 Sith, 2 Jedis.
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On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote: C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well. OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol. but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol. og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better. C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.
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Not convinced by C9 honestly. I wouldn't put money on them in a bo5. They're really good at certain things but not the things that win games consistently.
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On October 05 2015 05:03 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 04:52 Sleight wrote:On October 05 2015 04:38 orzeu wrote: Watching Fnatic vs C9 30 min in, how the fuck they did throw after getting inhib? Hai is a god. More like Fnatic has no idea how to play Yasuo comp, they fucked up 2 engages. Every team should ban Azir/Trist vs C9 and Veigar if you don't have counter. Wouldn't be surprise if they lose rest game with this bans. Fast pushing help them to hide Balls/Hai early game and Sneaky can just perma push lane, so Lemonation doesn't need to do shit. Hiding Balls is relevant but I don't think hiding Hai matters. I think too much importance has been put on jungle in this meta. It'll be hard to put Hai behind enough for it to matter. This meta highly emphasizes the draft phase and shot calling. So even if Hai gets down a 3k item he's still worth more than perhaps any other jungler at worlds. The impact jungle has right now is to get the ADC and Top lane ahead; mid and jungle are surprisingly irrelevant (with a few specific exceptions). I think the thing that many teams are missing is you want an actual zone control Mage mid ideally who can afford playing teleport. This lets you aggressively play towards the side lanes to get them rolling so you can then play the map as a whole.
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On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote: C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well. OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol. but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol. og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better. C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.
You seem hella salty about their win. lol.. C9 played better that game. Huni tilt is real. He is a young player that definitely has nerves issues when things don't go his way.
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On October 05 2015 06:18 Itsmedudeman wrote: Not convinced by C9 honestly. I wouldn't put money on them in a bo5. They're really good at certain things but not the things that win games consistently. I think FNC/iG will still win this group, just need to adjust their pick/ban phase.
On October 05 2015 06:25 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote: C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well. OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol. but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol. og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better. C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times. You seem hella salty about their win. lol.. C9 played better that game. Huni tilt is real Salty? I'm just sad that shit team wins, I want to see good bo5 after group stage.
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Imagine if Hai were the jungler for LGD.
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On October 05 2015 06:25 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote: C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well. OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol. but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol. og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better. C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times. You seem hella salty about their win. lol.. C9 played better that game. Huni tilt is real
Well, he is right about the one comp thing
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On October 05 2015 06:19 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 05:03 orzeu wrote:On October 05 2015 04:52 Sleight wrote:On October 05 2015 04:38 orzeu wrote: Watching Fnatic vs C9 30 min in, how the fuck they did throw after getting inhib? Hai is a god. More like Fnatic has no idea how to play Yasuo comp, they fucked up 2 engages. Every team should ban Azir/Trist vs C9 and Veigar if you don't have counter. Wouldn't be surprise if they lose rest game with this bans. Fast pushing help them to hide Balls/Hai early game and Sneaky can just perma push lane, so Lemonation doesn't need to do shit. Hiding Balls is relevant but I don't think hiding Hai matters. I think too much importance has been put on jungle in this meta. It'll be hard to put Hai behind enough for it to matter. This meta highly emphasizes the draft phase and shot calling. So even if Hai gets down a 3k item he's still worth more than perhaps any other jungler at worlds. The impact jungle has right now is to get the ADC and Top lane ahead; mid and jungle are surprisingly irrelevant (with a few specific exceptions). I think the thing that many teams are missing is you want an actual zone control Mage mid ideally who can afford playing teleport. This lets you aggressively play towards the side lanes to get them rolling so you can then play the map as a whole.
I also think people over estimate how bad Hai is as a jungler anyway. He puts out a lot of map pressure and always stays even in gold. Like I have never seen Hai just get hard out jungled since his very first couple games back from retirement.
He has played against some pretty good junglers and not only has he not drawn any priority in pick ban from C9, he is hella flexible in game. I think he is a good jungler.
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On October 05 2015 06:29 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote: C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well. OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol. but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol. og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better. C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times. im talking about champion picks like the stupid karma shyvana mumu. also they didn't play one comp and even if they did I don't see how that's a slight against them since they clearly are making many picks ban priority to the point that other teams are having trouble figuring out bans. Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 06:26 Itsmedudeman wrote: Imagine if Hai were the jungler for LGD. assuming lgd can function with hai's shotcalling (english+ harder to micromanage in other language) then yeah. but hey even that's probably better than LBQ. Pyl is way better shotcaller then Hai? One shit tournament doesn't change that.
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On October 05 2015 06:18 Itsmedudeman wrote: Not convinced by C9 honestly. I wouldn't put money on them in a bo5. They're really good at certain things but not the things that win games consistently. This
It would be hilarious if they reverse sweep in quarterfinals +semis to reach the finals to play against SKT
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When it's the world championship it does.
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