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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 04 2015 20:03 GMT
#6301
On October 05 2015 04:52 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 04:38 orzeu wrote:
Watching Fnatic vs C9 30 min in, how the fuck they did throw after getting inhib?


Hai is a god.

More like Fnatic has no idea how to play Yasuo comp, they fucked up 2 engages.
Every team should ban Azir/Trist vs C9 and Veigar if you don't have counter. Wouldn't be surprise if they lose rest game with this bans. Fast pushing help them to hide Balls/Hai early game and Sneaky can just perma push lane, so Lemonation doesn't need to do shit.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
October 04 2015 20:13 GMT
#6302
No disrespect to the teams but I still can't believe c9 and og are 3-0 in groups. They surely can't be upsets when they keep happening.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 20:16:40
October 04 2015 20:16 GMT
#6303
C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.
HOLY CHECK!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 04 2015 20:17 GMT
#6304
I kind of saw OG doing well and coming 2nd by not too far off but didn't expect LGD to collapse so hard so it makes sense that with that OG is now top of the group. OG is super good at slow games and everyone in that group aside from LGD play really slowly. It's almost the perfect group for OG to do well.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 04 2015 20:30 GMT
#6305
OG doing well isn't that big surprise, they have good roster, xPeke is clutch player and their new coach (Hermit) is super smart. Like I said before tournament started: Nagne will not abuse Peke and Arrow is busted.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
October 04 2015 20:33 GMT
#6306
On October 05 2015 02:44 MattBarry wrote:
Group A and C are a nice break from the complete madness and chaos that is group B&D
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 02:44 Naphal wrote:
CLG / FNC are like "we were the chosen ones!"

well anakin skywalker thought the same...

luckily there is OG Wan C9obi

Yeah but Anakin was the chosen one. It just took him a while

He brought balance to the force. 2 Sith, 2 Jedis.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 21:12:30
October 04 2015 21:09 GMT
#6307
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 04 2015 21:14 GMT
#6308


I just died.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 04 2015 21:16 GMT
#6309
On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote:
C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.


OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol.

but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol.

og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better.

C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 04 2015 21:18 GMT
#6310
Not convinced by C9 honestly. I wouldn't put money on them in a bo5. They're really good at certain things but not the things that win games consistently.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 04 2015 21:19 GMT
#6311
On October 05 2015 05:03 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 04:52 Sleight wrote:
On October 05 2015 04:38 orzeu wrote:
Watching Fnatic vs C9 30 min in, how the fuck they did throw after getting inhib?


Hai is a god.

More like Fnatic has no idea how to play Yasuo comp, they fucked up 2 engages.
Every team should ban Azir/Trist vs C9 and Veigar if you don't have counter. Wouldn't be surprise if they lose rest game with this bans. Fast pushing help them to hide Balls/Hai early game and Sneaky can just perma push lane, so Lemonation doesn't need to do shit.

Hiding Balls is relevant but I don't think hiding Hai matters. I think too much importance has been put on jungle in this meta. It'll be hard to put Hai behind enough for it to matter. This meta highly emphasizes the draft phase and shot calling. So even if Hai gets down a 3k item he's still worth more than perhaps any other jungler at worlds. The impact jungle has right now is to get the ADC and Top lane ahead; mid and jungle are surprisingly irrelevant (with a few specific exceptions). I think the thing that many teams are missing is you want an actual zone control Mage mid ideally who can afford playing teleport. This lets you aggressively play towards the side lanes to get them rolling so you can then play the map as a whole.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 21:27:14
October 04 2015 21:25 GMT
#6312
On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:
On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote:
C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.


OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol.

but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol.

og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better.

C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.


You seem hella salty about their win. lol.. C9 played better that game. Huni tilt is real. He is a young player that definitely has nerves issues when things don't go his way.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 21:30:17
October 04 2015 21:26 GMT
#6313
On October 05 2015 06:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Not convinced by C9 honestly. I wouldn't put money on them in a bo5. They're really good at certain things but not the things that win games consistently.

I think FNC/iG will still win this group, just need to adjust their pick/ban phase.
On October 05 2015 06:25 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:
On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:
On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote:
C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.


OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol.

but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol.

og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better.

C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.


You seem hella salty about their win. lol.. C9 played better that game. Huni tilt is real

Salty? I'm just sad that shit team wins, I want to see good bo5 after group stage.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 04 2015 21:26 GMT
#6314
Imagine if Hai were the jungler for LGD.
Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
October 04 2015 21:27 GMT
#6315
On October 05 2015 06:25 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:
On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:
On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote:
C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.


OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol.

but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol.

og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better.

C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.


You seem hella salty about their win. lol.. C9 played better that game. Huni tilt is real


Well, he is right about the one comp thing
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 21:31:20
October 04 2015 21:29 GMT
#6316
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 04 2015 21:30 GMT
#6317
On October 05 2015 06:19 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 05:03 orzeu wrote:
On October 05 2015 04:52 Sleight wrote:
On October 05 2015 04:38 orzeu wrote:
Watching Fnatic vs C9 30 min in, how the fuck they did throw after getting inhib?


Hai is a god.

More like Fnatic has no idea how to play Yasuo comp, they fucked up 2 engages.
Every team should ban Azir/Trist vs C9 and Veigar if you don't have counter. Wouldn't be surprise if they lose rest game with this bans. Fast pushing help them to hide Balls/Hai early game and Sneaky can just perma push lane, so Lemonation doesn't need to do shit.

Hiding Balls is relevant but I don't think hiding Hai matters. I think too much importance has been put on jungle in this meta. It'll be hard to put Hai behind enough for it to matter. This meta highly emphasizes the draft phase and shot calling. So even if Hai gets down a 3k item he's still worth more than perhaps any other jungler at worlds. The impact jungle has right now is to get the ADC and Top lane ahead; mid and jungle are surprisingly irrelevant (with a few specific exceptions). I think the thing that many teams are missing is you want an actual zone control Mage mid ideally who can afford playing teleport. This lets you aggressively play towards the side lanes to get them rolling so you can then play the map as a whole.


I also think people over estimate how bad Hai is as a jungler anyway. He puts out a lot of map pressure and always stays even in gold. Like I have never seen Hai just get hard out jungled since his very first couple games back from retirement.


He has played against some pretty good junglers and not only has he not drawn any priority in pick ban from C9, he is hella flexible in game. I think he is a good jungler.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 04 2015 21:34 GMT
#6318
On October 05 2015 06:29 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:16 orzeu wrote:
On October 05 2015 06:09 krndandaman wrote:
On October 05 2015 05:16 Lonyo wrote:
C9 and OG in playoffs were doing well. If you ignore regular season C9's position and the fact OG only made it through because of when the team formed, then it's reasonable they are doing well.


OG i'm not too surprised by but C9 really did look awful in the regionals despite winning. especially with how close the series were against other bad teams (two 3-2's, and 3-1). the amumu/karma/shyvana seriously threw me off lol.

but c9 seems to have a really good read on the meta right now and hai/lemon has given up on the stupid shit lol.

og's definitely exceeded my expectations but I knew they were good. just turns out they were even better.

C9 played literally one team comp, lemon is still shit, he died like a retard so many times.


im talking about champion picks like the stupid karma shyvana mumu.

also they didn't play one comp and even if they did I don't see how that's a slight against them since they clearly are making many picks ban priority to the point that other teams are having trouble figuring out bans.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Imagine if Hai were the jungler for LGD.


assuming lgd can function with hai's shotcalling (english+ harder to micromanage in other language) then yeah. but hey even that's probably better than LBQ.

Pyl is way better shotcaller then Hai? One shit tournament doesn't change that.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 21:35:26
October 04 2015 21:35 GMT
#6319
On October 05 2015 06:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Not convinced by C9 honestly. I wouldn't put money on them in a bo5. They're really good at certain things but not the things that win games consistently.

This

It would be hilarious if they reverse sweep in quarterfinals +semis to reach the finals to play against SKT
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 04 2015 21:35 GMT
#6320
When it's the world championship it does.
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