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United States47024 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
idk how much value to assign to those early domestic titles. the level of competition didn't seem too hot. clearlove's later career post WE is most of what i am looking at, not the number of titles
IEM Guangzhou 2011
On May 11 2015 12:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Nope.
I'd actually put Tabe as #2, it's just that most of his early career was him playing super well but getting shafted due to various factors outside of his control.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:45 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
idk how much value to assign to those early domestic titles. the level of competition didn't seem too hot. clearlove's later career post WE is most of what i am looking at, not the number of titles IEM Guangzhou 2011
who did they beat though.
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Baa?21243 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:47 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:45 TheYango wrote:On May 11 2015 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
idk how much value to assign to those early domestic titles. the level of competition didn't seem too hot. clearlove's later career post WE is most of what i am looking at, not the number of titles IEM Guangzhou 2011 who did they beat though.
CLG when CLG was the best team in the world by a large margin.
On May 11 2015 12:45 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
idk how much value to assign to those early domestic titles. the level of competition didn't seem too hot. clearlove's later career post WE is most of what i am looking at, not the number of titles IEM Guangzhou 2011 I'd actually put Tabe as #2, it's just that most of his early career was him playing super well but getting shafted due to various factors outside of his control.
Tabe lost to walawalawala 1v1 top, guy's a fraud.
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United States47024 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:47 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:45 TheYango wrote:On May 11 2015 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
idk how much value to assign to those early domestic titles. the level of competition didn't seem too hot. clearlove's later career post WE is most of what i am looking at, not the number of titles IEM Guangzhou 2011 who did they beat though.
CLG at a point in time when CLG was considered the best team in the world?
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I wonder how much more does clearlove have to win to convince that he never truly got carried? :D
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
well if you are talking about when most of the current talent pool didn't even play league then i guess. but that's kind of like saying babe ruth is the best player ever in baseball.
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Lol was out all day without internet and see that EDG takes the series 3-2 like I expected, and seeing how i went from #11 to #3 on liquidbet, there are many of you who had high hopes on SKT 
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Baa?21243 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:49 IshinShishi wrote:
I wonder how much more does clearlove have to win to convince that he never truly got carried? :D
? He did get carried for all of 2012, and honestly straight up lost WE a few key games (vs. CLG.EU in S2 for example). He got good over the past couple of years but still nowhere near the level of odminance that Weixiao or Misaya exerted in their primes.
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On May 11 2015 12:49 oneofthem wrote:
well if you are talking about when most of the current talent pool didn't even play league then i guess. but that's kind of like saying babe ruth is the best player ever in baseball.
On May 11 2015 12:31 oneofthem wrote:
there's a really strong argument to be made that clearlove is the best chinese player ever.
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honestly though does clearlove even feel anything when he wins anymore?
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United States47024 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Tabe lost to walawalawala 1v1 top, guy's a fraud.
I thought the buzzword we're using now is "exposed".
On May 11 2015 12:49 IshinShishi wrote:
I wonder how much more does clearlove have to win to convince that he never truly got carried? :D
I mean no matter how good he looks now, the amount of stupid shit he did when WE was struggling in first season of LPL means the most credit you can give him is saying he was sandbagging super hard rather than just being bad.
And even then, given how the Worlds qualifier slot came down to a tiebreaker between Royal and WE, it means he basically sandbagged WE out of Worlds, lol.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
You don't even need to look at anyone.
Just watch WeiXiao in Season 4 and questions about best Chinese player ever should just die.
Vintage WE is just sweet bonus to it.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Everyone knows that the best Chinese player ever is uzi because he made two world finals :>
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:51 ShootAnonymous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:49 oneofthem wrote:
well if you are talking about when most of the current talent pool didn't even play league then i guess. but that's kind of like saying babe ruth is the best player ever in baseball. Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:31 oneofthem wrote:
there's a really strong argument to be made that clearlove is the best chinese player ever.
perfectly consistent.
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On May 11 2015 12:51 IMoperator wrote:
honestly though does clearlove even feel anything when he wins anymore?
why can't I hold all these overly sized checks?
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Australia18228 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:50 MooMooMugi wrote:Lol was out all day without internet and see that EDG takes the series 3-2 like I expected, and seeing how i went from #11 to #3 on liquidbet, there are many of you who had high hopes on SKT
Figured EDG had an advantage but I wanted to believe 
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On May 11 2015 12:51 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:49 IshinShishi wrote:
I wonder how much more does clearlove have to win to convince that he never truly got carried? :D I mean no matter how good he looks, the amount of stupid shit he did when WE was struggling in first season of LPL means the most credit you can give him is saying he was sandbagging super hard rather than just being bad.
he was developing :D.
Anyways, great games guys, Faker(>PawN) couldn't carry the bot lane but I was satisfied with the result, now off I go.......
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On May 11 2015 12:49 IshinShishi wrote:
I wonder how much more does clearlove have to win to convince that he never truly got carried? :D
Once. He needs to win once, while 2/3 of his lanes are being shit on.
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Baa?21243 Posts
On May 11 2015 12:51 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:51 ShootAnonymous wrote:On May 11 2015 12:49 oneofthem wrote:
well if you are talking about when most of the current talent pool didn't even play league then i guess. but that's kind of like saying babe ruth is the best player ever in baseball. On May 11 2015 12:31 oneofthem wrote:
there's a really strong argument to be made that clearlove is the best chinese player ever. perfectly consistent.
Weixiao is the best Chinese player ever (to date I guess to hedge for future events), that's like an objective truth. If you didn't even watch the game until late S2 you probably shouldn't make silly pronouncements about the scene without doing your research.
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On May 11 2015 12:55 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:49 IshinShishi wrote:
I wonder how much more does clearlove have to win to convince that he never truly got carried? :D Once. He needs to win once, while 2/3 of his lanes are being shit on.
I seriously can't think of any team that can win a tournament with two losing lanes.
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