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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 11 2015 03:34 GMT
#8141
On May 11 2015 12:22 oneofthem wrote:
urgot: exposed.


thank god
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-11 03:36:17
May 11 2015 03:35 GMT
#8142
On May 11 2015 12:30 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:27 cLutZ wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:26 Azarkon wrote:
Clearlove did.


What? Why? Because they love troll picks?

The justification cited was KDA and 1st blood participation.

=/


His first bloods are pretty good, but seriously his high KDA is a negative for EDG, because its caused by him taking kills during those first bloods at a way higher rate than other junglers, and it loses games.

He just always looks great when they win, and bleh when they lose. Actually, he also looked bleh in G3.

It feels like the voters watched only G2, 3, then gave a huge bonus for eve. Koro>Meiko>CL>Deft>Pawn for EDG's MVP.
Freeeeeeedom
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 11 2015 03:35 GMT
#8143
On May 11 2015 12:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:31 oneofthem wrote:
there's a really strong argument to be made that clearlove is the best chinese player ever.


Lol no.

why not.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 11 2015 03:36 GMT
#8144
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
May 11 2015 03:37 GMT
#8145
On May 11 2015 12:35 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:31 oneofthem wrote:
there's a really strong argument to be made that clearlove is the best chinese player ever.


Lol no.

why not.


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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
May 11 2015 03:37 GMT
#8146
On May 11 2015 12:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:30 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:27 cLutZ wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:26 Azarkon wrote:
Clearlove did.


What? Why? Because they love troll picks?

The justification cited was KDA and 1st blood participation.

=/


His first bloods are pretty good, but seriously his high KDA is a negative for EDG, because its caused by him taking kills during those first bloods at a way higher rate than other junglers, and it loses games.

He just always looks great when they win, and bleh when they lose. Actually, he also looked bleh in G3.

It feels like the voters watched only G2, 3, then gave a huge bonus for eve. Koro>Meiko>CL>Deft>Pawn for EDG's MVP.


Swap Meiko and Koro1 around and we're in agreement. (I'm giving Meiko a bonus for his consistency and that he's a rookie)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 11 2015 03:37 GMT
#8147
at one point it doesn't matter how the player looks if he gets all the results, I think clearlove is quite past that point, imo he is the best chinese player ever.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 11 2015 03:37 GMT
#8148
weixiao's career is too short though, and he fell off near the end. clearlove is still going strong and improving.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
May 11 2015 03:38 GMT
#8149
On May 11 2015 12:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:30 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:27 cLutZ wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:26 Azarkon wrote:
Clearlove did.


What? Why? Because they love troll picks?

The justification cited was KDA and 1st blood participation.

=/


His first bloods are pretty good, but seriously his high KDA is a negative for EDG, because its caused by him taking kills during those first bloods at a way higher rate than other junglers, and it loses games.

He just always looks great when they win, and bleh when they lose. Actually, he also looked bleh in G3.

It feels like the voters watched only G2, 3, then gave a huge bonus for eve. Koro>Meiko>CL>Deft>Pawn for EDG's MVP.


There's arguments for Koro/Meiko for sure but let's not exaggerate that CL's style "loses" games. In fact, I think almost every game Clearlove has gotten FB, they have won the game.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-11 03:40:01
May 11 2015 03:38 GMT
#8150
On May 11 2015 12:37 oneofthem wrote:
weixiao's career is too short though, and he fell off near the end. clearlove is still going strong and improving.

How long did you follow Chinese LoL to say weixiao's career was too short, lmao?

Also, the funny thing about Koro and Clearlove is that despite top and jungle historically being China's weakest roles, the resulting landscape post-Korean imports has given us contenders for best top/mid as being existing Chinese talent.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-11 03:39:34
May 11 2015 03:39 GMT
#8151
On May 11 2015 12:37 oneofthem wrote:
weixiao's career is too short though, and he fell off near the end. clearlove is still going strong and improving.


??

Too short? Weixiao played from mid 2011 to end of 2013, and completely carried ClearLove for the 2012 - early 2013 period, after which ClearLove straight trolled for half a year, and Weixiao returned to have a sick showing in end 2013 before retiring for good.

Basically half of Clearlove's titles go to Weixiao instead in a head to head comparison.
TranslatorBaa!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 11 2015 03:39 GMT
#8152
On May 11 2015 12:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:37 oneofthem wrote:
weixiao's career is too short though, and he fell off near the end. clearlove is still going strong and improving.

How long did you follow Chinese LoL to say weixiao's career was too short, lmao?

at the end of s2ish.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 11 2015 03:40 GMT
#8153
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/35k4gl/spoiler_msi_stats_picks_bans/
Champion stats here, rekt'sai with the 100% P/B
Glorious SEA doto
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
May 11 2015 03:40 GMT
#8154
On May 11 2015 12:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:37 oneofthem wrote:
weixiao's career is too short though, and he fell off near the end. clearlove is still going strong and improving.

How long did you follow Chinese LoL to say weixiao's career was too short, lmao?

Also, the funny thing about Koro and Clearlove is that despite top and jungle historically being China's weakest roles, the resulting landscape post-Korean imports has given us contenders for best top/mid as being existing Chinese talent.


I think Top has been pretty good traditionally. TY based PDD520.
TranslatorBaa!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-11 03:42:35
May 11 2015 03:41 GMT
#8155
Also, Weixiao didn't "fall off" more than he got put in lovecryboy prison.

On May 11 2015 12:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I think Top has been pretty good traditionally. TY based PDD520.

Sorry, I meant to say "relative to Korea" and left that bit out on accident.

Though it's actually arguable that it's jungle+support more than jungle+top, but in any case Meiko also really delivered here so the point still stands.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 11 2015 03:42 GMT
#8156
Eh... PPD got exposed pretty hard later internationally.

But it's hard to argue about Chinese tops being bad after Gogoing went HAM at S4 and destroyed the 'last carry top laner in Korea.'
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 11 2015 03:42 GMT
#8157
so assuming weixiao is best can we at least agree with clearlove as second?
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 11 2015 03:43 GMT
#8158
On May 11 2015 12:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:37 oneofthem wrote:
weixiao's career is too short though, and he fell off near the end. clearlove is still going strong and improving.


??

Too short? Weixiao played from mid 2011 to end of 2013, and completely carried ClearLove for the 2012 - early 2013 period, after which ClearLove straight trolled for half a year, and Weixiao returned to have a sick showing in end 2013 before retiring for good.

Basically half of Clearlove's titles go to Weixiao instead in a head to head comparison.

idk how much value to assign to those early domestic titles. the level of competition didn't seem too hot. clearlove's later career post WE is most of what i am looking at, not the number of titles
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 11 2015 03:43 GMT
#8159
I actually think China's weakest role is presently mid. Then after that, jungle when you subtract all the imports.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-11 03:44:56
May 11 2015 03:43 GMT
#8160
On May 11 2015 12:42 IshinShishi wrote:
so assuming weixiao is best can we at least agree with clearlove as second?


Nope.

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