EPT[NA LCS] Summer 2014 Week 2 - Page 39
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
CLG = C9 > Dig >> LMQ >= TSM >>> EG = Curse > Complexity | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On June 01 2014 16:07 wei2coolman wrote: I don't think dig is that far ahead of lmq tbh. Maybe slightly better. I think curse is darkhorse imo. I think they'll constantly surprise us with how well they can match up with some of the top teams. Sorta like how Coast was last split. Curse hasn't shown any ability to really win games... just not lose them. They need something to push them otherwise they'll plateau really, really fast. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
They're the kind of team that defines close only matters in horseshoes and grenades (whatever that saying means) they have a bizarre ability to turn matches close at points but unless something changes I feel like they'll be condemned to best of the worst/ dignitas' kryptonite because of all the down time in their matches and tendency to lose lanes anyway (STOP STARVING QUAS) | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 01 2014 17:50 739 wrote: Am I the one that is so far really disappointed by Seraph's games? Damn he's been doing average at most in those games we seen so far. Because people hyped the fuck of him. If CLG guys didn't leak that Seraph is coming, people would have taken it way easier. Same is happening with Amazing right now. On June 01 2014 15:58 1ntrigue wrote: With Dig's new support infrastructure and TSM's lack of direction and overall mediocrity, I'll have to revise my predictions to: CLG = C9 > Dig >> LMQ >= TSM >>> EG = Curse > Complexity Wait at least until next week, or even 5-6 weeks to adjust ranks when they play 10-14 games. Next week there are: Dignitas - CLG CLG - C9 LMQ - TSM and TSM-Curse. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On June 01 2014 19:40 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Because people hyped the fuck of him. If CLG guys didn't leak that Seraph is coming, people would have taken it way easier. Same is happening with Amazing right now. Wait at least until next week, or even 5-6 weeks to adjust ranks when they play 10-14 games. Next week there are: Dignitas - CLG CLG - C9 LMQ - TSM and TSM-Curse. Predictions are fun. No point waiting for next week to predict from the vantage point of this week :p Mostly interested in whether C9 is too tired/not hungry enough to continue their dominance. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On June 01 2014 17:50 739 wrote: Am I the one that is so far really disappointed by Seraph's games? Damn he's been doing average at most in those games we seen so far. I'm not disappointed and I don't see why you should be either. He got hyped mainly because hes Korean and came from the Najin Organization. Thats basically the only reason why. They all thought that since hes Korean hes going to come in and just crush faces and be the #1 top laner in an instant but he has only played 1 professional game. Then we see him play and people only look at the negatives. Last week CLG didn't really do anything to let Seraph succeed on his own.The calls and decision making of CLG last week were very stupid and just kept Seraph down. They either told him to engage or they told him to come to a lane and help push tower, and not really trying to get him into a 1v1. They mainly tried getting him to help everyone else instead of himself. They aren't setting him up to succeed. Seraph will only get better in terms of communication and gelling with the team and when that happens can we maybe see a Seraph wrecking face. As Monte has already said, its for the long term investment and its going to take time. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
I don't want to start some kind of conspiracy theory but i wonder if the two coast members knew they could go to dignitas before the relegation match with col? Talking about lmq vs dig we have to see who has the stronger lanes when the game starts in a normal manner. So it was a great game by dignitas but you can't be sure that every game now every jungle invade gives you that advantage. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On June 01 2014 15:58 1ntrigue wrote: With Dig's new support infrastructure and TSM's lack of direction and overall mediocrity, I'll have to revise my predictions to: CLG = C9 > Dig >> LMQ >= TSM >>> EG = Curse > Complexity Monte has said that he doesn't think CLG can even get as good as C9 by the end of the split. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 01 2014 21:57 TitusVI wrote: I've heard that when they picked up seraph he wasnt even up to date with the current meta which means he wasn't playing very competitive until they pciked him up. but could be wrong. I don't want to start some kind of conspiracy theory but i wonder if the two coast members knew they could go to dignitas before the relegation match with col? Talking about lmq vs dig we have to see who has the stronger lanes when the game starts in a normal manner. So it was a great game by dignitas but you can't be sure that every game now every jungle invade gives you that advantage. Coast just massively choked, Zion was basically playing 3 games out of 4 1v5 if not 1v9. No reason to make Dignitas look bad, they just outclassed LMQ yesterday. Yes, invade got them a little advantage because Vasilii doesn't want to use his trinket but it's not something which can win you a game instantly. If Dignitas wins tonight against TSM, it will be well-deserved first place even if they hadn't faced CLG yet. On June 01 2014 22:35 Sleight wrote: Monte has said that he doesn't think CLG can even get as good as C9 by the end of the split. Well, in the end of the split, Seraph has to look way better than he is right now, but how will it change things - noone knows. Anyway, as i said already, if CLG wins tonight, C9 wins against LMQ and Dignitas loses to TSM, we're going to have five teams in 1st place with 4-2, one with 2-4 and two with 1-5. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On June 01 2014 22:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: No reason to make Dignitas look bad, they just outclassed LMQ yesterday. Yes, invade got them a little advantage because Vasilii doesn't want to use his trinket but it's not something which can win you a game instantly. If Dignitas wins tonight against TSM, it will be well-deserved first place even if they hadn't faced CLG yet. I never made dig look bad. No need to be emotional in something that isn't. Dig did a great game yesterday an they are a strong team. All i say is that i feel lmq is a bit stronger. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 01 2014 23:31 TitusVI wrote: I never made dig look bad. No need to be emotional in something that isn't. Dig did a great game yesterday an they are a strong team. All i say is that i feel lmq is a bit stronger. Well, you tend to hype LMQ a bit too much :D It was same in Challenger scene - they struggle a lot to fight against something formidable if they're behind, classic Chinese team. Yes, when LMQ snowballs, they look good, Ackerman looks invincible, XWX and Vasilii are racking kills, creeps, towers and fantasy points, NoName looks like a legit jungler and Mor is literal Matalife, but sample of games is still little, we have to see at least how will they be matched tonight against C9 who seem to pick very aggressive comps this week. Dignitas though, i have to say, i'm really surprised how fast are they adapting to each other. Even though, Dignitas almost always start good, will they start falling after 3-4 weeks, noone knows right now. Next week they have CLG and EG who are looking not as bad as someone could expect, so if they go 7-1 after 3 weeks with only loss to Curse, i guess, it's legit proposal for top-2. | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On June 01 2014 23:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Well, you tend to hype LMQ a bit too much :D It was same in Challenger scene - they struggle a lot to fight against something formidable if they're behind, classic Chinese team. Yes, when LMQ snowballs, they look good, Ackerman looks invincible, XWX and Vasilii are racking kills, creeps, towers and fantasy points, NoName looks like a legit jungler and Mor is literal Matalife, but sample of games is still little, we have to see at least how will they be matched tonight against C9 who seem to pick very aggressive comps this week. Dignitas though, i have to say, i'm really surprised how fast are they adapting to each other. Even though, Dignitas almost always start good, will they start falling after 3-4 weeks, noone knows right now. Next week they have CLG and EG who are looking not as bad as someone could expect, so if they go 7-1 after 3 weeks with only loss to Curse, i guess, it's legit proposal for top-2. Yeah, in the Challenger scene LMQ would have games where they would just crush from minute 1 and make the other team look like a bunch of plat 5 scrubs. Then, in other games they would fall behind inexplicably and tilt - yes in some of those situations they were able to force fights and win them because their competition was so mediocre, but that isn't going to happen very often against a true LCS caliber team. LMQ is an interesting team because of that inconsistency, and I'm not quite sure what causes it, but you never really know if the 'good LMQ' or the 'bad LMQ' will show up on a game to game basis. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 01 2014 15:58 1ntrigue wrote: With Dig's new support infrastructure and TSM's lack of direction and overall mediocrity, I'll have to revise my predictions to: CLG = C9 > Dig >> LMQ >= TSM >>> EG = Curse > Complexity Sorry what. No. C9 is still way ahead of CLG, and Dig is probably not ahead of LMQ. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
That said, they could possibly pick off C9 today, simply because C9's laning is still not super strong + Hai is still rusty. But especially as the split drags on LMQ is looking like they'll finish 4th at best unless they can shore up their weaknesses. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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