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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 26 2014 09:41 Arbax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:38 Zato-1 wrote:On May 26 2014 09:27 Sandster wrote:
Are you seriously ragging on Seraph? The team decided to take the wrong fucking buff and run into 4 people at their own red. They decided not to dive Balls top when there was a huge creep wave and Meteos was bot (dexter was bot jungle). How is any of this Seraph's fault? And yes I'm seriously ragging on Seraph, he's been so, so heavy this whole week Its not Seraph's fault really that he is ALWAYS under farmed, under level'ed, its clg's strategy to babysit DL..., that leaves Seraph behind every game, and he hasnt been able to do anything yet...
Dude, you're like stuck in Season 3, seriously.
If CLG's strategy was to babysit DL, he would have played Jinx, Vayne and Tristana every game, not Sivir.
On May 26 2014 09:53 Disengaged wrote:
XwX gonna be weeek 1 mvp
WAIT WHAT
Oh so they are now putting the same person in the OP of the week as well as MVP. Well then
Same was with Kerp.
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Nooo, was 2nd highest scorer in my league but still lost my match by 3 points T___T
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On May 26 2014 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:
I think Seraph was OK. The problem was with picking Irelia and failing 1v2.
This, this this.
C9 plays these situations well - they give time for Balls to farm up so he can become a monster, as usual sacrificing a bit of Hai's farm, because he's on a semi-support champ that doesn't need heavy farm to be effective. This lets Hai roam around and cause havoc to CLG, while he's not restricted by his farming priority (since Balls is essentially the 2nd 'carry').
CLG on the other hand, starved the shit out of Seraph, who is on a champ that is a strong midgame - IF IT gets items. Irelia with items creates a very strong timing, Irelia without items is a crappy tank with a stun/slow. So if YOU PICK IRELIA YOU NEED TO GIVE HER FARM. If CLG's plan was for Seraph to be starved, you need to give him a champ that has a strong 1/2 item timing, like even something like Kennen, who basically just needs a Zhonyas to play that 2nd support role. Just a basic planning/execution fail.
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On May 26 2014 09:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:49 ParadeofMadness wrote:
I have no idea how on some days CLG just collectively uninstall their brains. Wtf is this team comp? Wtf was the early game supposed to be? Before they just tried to 4v2'd and then wild Lulu appeared, everything was ok. They recovered very well after early losses, but this play just threw everything away. Well, typical CLG-C9 game, one mistake = game. Next week there is holy derby, so it's ok. Meteos is pissed even more than Bjergsen, holy shit. Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:50 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Well, at least Doublelift secured me a week 1 win in fantasy, but i'm going to be salty whole day on exams =/ Someone needs to chill Seraph, seriously. I bet, he's like - "I'm playing bad, i have to make something happen now and right now" and he just tilts ): On May 26 2014 09:45 Arbax wrote:
Doublelift, mechnics in teamfight blows so hard... they need to restrategize, and put some of that babysitting/farm, laneswap FOR DL to better use... Liftlift haters ^.^ Sweet. Not hating, just facts, look at his positioning and decisions every game... its not that good... His positioning was almost immense on Vayne this game, you can't just stay back and think that everyone will just wait until you kill them. This blind watching of stats is ridiculous sometimes. Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:52 arb wrote:On May 26 2014 09:41 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:38 Zato-1 wrote:On May 26 2014 09:27 Sandster wrote:
Are you seriously ragging on Seraph? The team decided to take the wrong fucking buff and run into 4 people at their own red. They decided not to dive Balls top when there was a huge creep wave and Meteos was bot (dexter was bot jungle). How is any of this Seraph's fault? And yes I'm seriously ragging on Seraph, he's been so, so heavy this whole week Its not Seraph's fault really that he is ALWAYS under farmed, under level'ed, its clg's strategy to babysit DL..., that leaves Seraph behind every game, and he hasnt been able to do anything yet... Dont think Doublelift is that impressive anymore tbh. He didnt even outfarm Sneaky that game LOOOOOL.
Not sure what game your watching, but he hasnt done a whole lot thats impressive, then at key spots where his positioning matters he blows it, for example the fight near the inhib after CLG chases C9 all the way back to CLG's base, CLG gains a small edge for the fight, then DL decides to run alone to there backside for no reason other then blindedly going after lucian, just to get smacked, where as he could have focused on the shyvana with the teamfight edge they gained, and then work his way around if needed...
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On May 26 2014 09:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:53 wei2coolman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:50 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Well, at least Doublelift secured me a week 1 win in fantasy, but i'm going to be salty whole day on exams =/ Someone needs to chill Seraph, seriously. I bet, he's like - "I'm playing bad, i have to make something happen now and right now" and he just tilts ): On May 26 2014 09:45 Arbax wrote:
Doublelift, mechnics in teamfight blows so hard... they need to restrategize, and put some of that babysitting/farm, laneswap FOR DL to better use... Liftlift haters ^.^ Sweet. Not hating, just facts, look at his positioning and decisions every game... its not that good... Vayne into zyra is bad pick. Vaynes lack of range leaves her vulnerable to all of zyra's cc. Lift lift had to play super cautious all teamfight. Except he didn't and his positioning was just bad, tumbling into a bunch of dmg, etc. His mechanics in team fights are not as good as people think they are. But props to him for not eating a skillshot and dying while sieging a tower this game though.
I dunno. His lack of deaths suggest he was dodging enough stuff imo. Problem is with vayne here was lack of frontline to help peel. The ori ults weren't hitting whem they beeded to be hit. They were almost exclusively used as damage with no followup from CLG. That means no time for DL to hit people while they're bwing rearranged from shockwave. Irelia was pretty much useless. Did no damage offered 0 peel. No map presence.
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On May 26 2014 09:55 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:41 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:38 Zato-1 wrote:On May 26 2014 09:27 Sandster wrote:
Are you seriously ragging on Seraph? The team decided to take the wrong fucking buff and run into 4 people at their own red. They decided not to dive Balls top when there was a huge creep wave and Meteos was bot (dexter was bot jungle). How is any of this Seraph's fault? And yes I'm seriously ragging on Seraph, he's been so, so heavy this whole week Its not Seraph's fault really that he is ALWAYS under farmed, under level'ed, its clg's strategy to babysit DL..., that leaves Seraph behind every game, and he hasnt been able to do anything yet... Dude, you're like stuck in Season 3, seriously. If CLG's strategy was to babysit DL, he would have played Jinx, Vayne and Tristana every game, not Sivir. Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:53 Disengaged wrote:
XwX gonna be weeek 1 mvp
WAIT WHAT
Oh so they are now putting the same person in the OP of the week as well as MVP. Well then Same was with Kerp.
First time I'm finding this out because I've stopped caring to watch the EU LCS religiously as before because its just so god damn boring lol
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but was a nice week of lcs
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The NA LCS Summer Split Week 1 MWP award (Most Westrice Player) goes to InnoX, of Evil Geniusses. I have to say that this week in LA has shown mostly mediocrity. No one really shined, but the players we expected to get destroyed managed to suprise us. Westrice himself outplayed both Balls and Zionspartan and his biggest problem seemed to be not being on the same page as the rest of the team rather than individual play. In the end, it were Innox's limited champion pool, inability to hold advantages and general lack of impact that won him this award. Let's hear what Gtrsrs had to say about his player.
On May 26 2014 00:50 gtrsrs wrote:
i don't understand the consistent criticisms of innox's play or his champ selection
the kid has been playing out of his mind this whole split, all of relegations, and the last 5 weeks or so of last split. he's not flame, and his play isn't flawless, but he's extremely good and has the potential to be the strongest top laner NA by next split if not by the end of this split
Let's hope he get's his coughing cured as well!
You can learn more about MWP award below.
+ Show Spoiler +It is my firm belief that top lane is the role with the shallowest talent pool in the west, with only two good players - Zorozero and Balls. After watching Westrice's awe-inspiring play against Team Coast in the NA promotion series, I decided to establish the Westrice Awards - a recognition for all the players whose struggle reminds us, that toplane is hard. The list of awards handed out so far:
All-stars 2014: Achie, for worthy representation of his region
EU LCS S4 Summer W1: Darien, for 0.82 KDA and living up to the "Feed to win (or lose)" motto
NA LCS S4 Summer W1: InnoX, for consistent lack of impact and limited champion pool
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I'm impressed with how much Aphro improved this year. First time he was in CLG he felt mediocre, this season he's their best player
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On May 26 2014 09:58 AlterKot wrote:The NA LCS Summer Split Week 1 MWP award (Most Westrice Player) goes to InnoX, of Evil Geniusses. I have to say that this week in LA has shown mostly mediocrity. No one really shined, but the players we expected to get destroyed managed to suprise us. Westrice himself outplayed both Balls and Zionspartan and his biggest problem seemed to be not being on the same page as the rest of the team rather than individual play. In the end, it were Innox's limited champion pool, inability to hold advantages and general lack of impact that won him this award. Let's hear what Gtrsrs had to say about his player. Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 00:50 gtrsrs wrote:
i don't understand the consistent criticisms of innox's play or his champ selection
the kid has been playing out of his mind this whole split, all of relegations, and the last 5 weeks or so of last split. he's not flame, and his play isn't flawless, but he's extremely good and has the potential to be the strongest top laner NA by next split if not by the end of this split Let's hope he get's his coughing cured as well! You can learn more about MWP award below. + Show Spoiler +It is my firm belief that top lane is the role with the shallowest talent pool in the west, with only two good players - Zorozero and Balls. After watching Westrice's awe-inspiring play against Team Coast in the NA promotion series, I decided to establish the Westrice Awards - a recognition for all the players whose struggle reminds us, that toplane is hard. The list of awards handed out so far:
All-stars 2014: Achie, for worthy representation of his region
EU LCS S4 Summer W1: Darien, for 0.82 KDA and living up to the "Feed to win (or lose)" motto
NA LCS S4 Summer W1: InnoX, for consistent lack of impact and limited champion pool
Would help if he wasn't so god damn stubborn to just play carry top lanes and play some tanky top lanes. Would be for the benefit of the team because look at how his carry top laners are working out for him and the team.
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On May 26 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:53 wei2coolman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:50 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Well, at least Doublelift secured me a week 1 win in fantasy, but i'm going to be salty whole day on exams =/ Someone needs to chill Seraph, seriously. I bet, he's like - "I'm playing bad, i have to make something happen now and right now" and he just tilts ): On May 26 2014 09:45 Arbax wrote:
Doublelift, mechnics in teamfight blows so hard... they need to restrategize, and put some of that babysitting/farm, laneswap FOR DL to better use... Liftlift haters ^.^ Sweet. Not hating, just facts, look at his positioning and decisions every game... its not that good... Vayne into zyra is bad pick. Vaynes lack of range leaves her vulnerable to all of zyra's cc. Lift lift had to play super cautious all teamfight. Except he didn't and his positioning was just bad, tumbling into a bunch of dmg, etc. His mechanics in team fights are not as good as people think they are. But props to him for not eating a skillshot and dying while sieging a tower this game though. I dunno. His lack of deaths suggest he was dodging enough stuff imo. Problem is with vayne here was lack of frontline to help peel. The ori ults weren't hitting whem they beeded to be hit. They were almost exclusively used as damage with no followup from CLG. That means no time for DL to hit people while they're bwing rearranged from shockwave. Irelia was pretty much useless. Did no damage offered 0 peel. No map presence.
This was a game where killing vayne didn't matter at all and all they had to do was cut through an irelia with no tank items. He's very fortunate aphro and link were protecting him as well. But don't just take this game as an example, almost all of his games in fall split were underwhelming and he never carried his team. The ONLY impressive game from him last split was the one where he was on caitlyn vs. TSM which they ended up losing. Other than that his mechanics are not great and he eats more skillshots than almost anyone but turtle.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 26 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:53 wei2coolman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:50 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Well, at least Doublelift secured me a week 1 win in fantasy, but i'm going to be salty whole day on exams =/ Someone needs to chill Seraph, seriously. I bet, he's like - "I'm playing bad, i have to make something happen now and right now" and he just tilts ): On May 26 2014 09:45 Arbax wrote:
Doublelift, mechnics in teamfight blows so hard... they need to restrategize, and put some of that babysitting/farm, laneswap FOR DL to better use... Liftlift haters ^.^ Sweet. Not hating, just facts, look at his positioning and decisions every game... its not that good... Vayne into zyra is bad pick. Vaynes lack of range leaves her vulnerable to all of zyra's cc. Lift lift had to play super cautious all teamfight. Except he didn't and his positioning was just bad, tumbling into a bunch of dmg, etc. His mechanics in team fights are not as good as people think they are. But props to him for not eating a skillshot and dying while sieging a tower this game though. I dunno. His lack of deaths suggest he was dodging enough stuff imo. Problem is with vayne here was lack of frontline to help peel. The ori ults weren't hitting whem they beeded to be hit. They were almost exclusively used as damage with no followup from CLG. That means no time for DL to hit people while they're bwing rearranged from shockwave. Irelia was pretty much useless. Did no damage offered 0 peel. No map presence.
Agreed.
Link ults were hitting people but it's just too damn dangerous to go in with Vayne not knowing that you will get a kill and get out 100%, when your frontline is either on tilt or just didn't have enough farm.
I honestly think, it was better choice to pick Tristana or Jinx here, just because of lack of raw damage but Liftlift did everything he could with this pick.
On May 26 2014 10:03 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:53 wei2coolman wrote:On May 26 2014 09:50 Arbax wrote:On May 26 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Well, at least Doublelift secured me a week 1 win in fantasy, but i'm going to be salty whole day on exams =/ Someone needs to chill Seraph, seriously. I bet, he's like - "I'm playing bad, i have to make something happen now and right now" and he just tilts ): On May 26 2014 09:45 Arbax wrote:
Doublelift, mechnics in teamfight blows so hard... they need to restrategize, and put some of that babysitting/farm, laneswap FOR DL to better use... Liftlift haters ^.^ Sweet. Not hating, just facts, look at his positioning and decisions every game... its not that good... Vayne into zyra is bad pick. Vaynes lack of range leaves her vulnerable to all of zyra's cc. Lift lift had to play super cautious all teamfight. Except he didn't and his positioning was just bad, tumbling into a bunch of dmg, etc. His mechanics in team fights are not as good as people think they are. But props to him for not eating a skillshot and dying while sieging a tower this game though. I dunno. His lack of deaths suggest he was dodging enough stuff imo. Problem is with vayne here was lack of frontline to help peel. The ori ults weren't hitting whem they beeded to be hit. They were almost exclusively used as damage with no followup from CLG. That means no time for DL to hit people while they're bwing rearranged from shockwave. Irelia was pretty much useless. Did no damage offered 0 peel. No map presence. This was a game where killing vayne didn't matter at all and all they had to do was cut through an irelia with no tank items. He's very fortunate aphro and link were protecting him as well. But don't just take this game as an example, almost all of his games in fall split were underwhelming and he never carried his team. The ONLY impressive game from him last split was the one where he was on caitlyn vs. TSM which they ended up losing. Other than that his mechanics are not great and he eats more skillshots than almost anyone but turtle.
You didn't like their game against C9, when they rolled Draven-Thresh lane with Sivir-Leona? D:
Or his Lucian against TSM?
CLG in whole stepped up a lot last split, they didn't have a carry, it was a cohesive unit.
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Tristana is never a good pick... Never
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On May 26 2014 10:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Tristana is never a good pick... Never
Good in EU since games go to 50 min regularly.
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Man being a CLG fan is like being in an abusive relationship. Fuck this shit I'm out. Now Im only going to care for the play not the team
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I'm glad Dig went 3-1 but the loss to Curse almost stings more than the win over c9 was good, probly just the order tho
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On May 26 2014 10:13 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Man being a CLG fan is like being in an abusive relationship. Fuck this shit I'm out. Now Im only going to care for the play not the team
Clg best team at giving false hope and then making you regret it.
Also crumbz saying crs would be ez win was such a giveaway that they would lose lol.
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To be honest, I didn't really enjoy any game except for CLG vs LMQ. Not sure what I expected :p
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Seraph being underfarmed is one thing, but he made many MANY questionable decisions and engages throughout the whole game.
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