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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 26 2014 21:59 hasuprotoss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 20:31 Gorsameth wrote:On April 26 2014 20:28 hasuprotoss wrote:You know, we could expand the LCS... Oh wait, Rito controls everything and probably doesn't want to play more money on player salaries...  Why would you expand the LCS? So more bad teams can hand around being punching bags while there is even less talent in the challenger scene? Yeah, let's make it so that the initial bad teams who were lucky enough to get into the LCS are slightly less bad than those unlucky enough to not be the original few in the LCS so they can continue being trash. That's essentially what I'm seeing out of all this. While an expansion may not help, at least the scene wouldn't grow stale, which it certainly is beginning to feel like.
Who were unlucky enough to get into LCS? Wolves who stomped their way to it? Millenium, who were best team in Europe for 8 weeks in Summer? There are no trash teams in LCS, there are some players who can be subbed, but in general they're best.
And adding teams like Denial or C9E without k0u won't help the competition, it will just help getting wins to top dogs.
On April 26 2014 22:42 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 21:59 hasuprotoss wrote:On April 26 2014 20:31 Gorsameth wrote:On April 26 2014 20:28 hasuprotoss wrote:You know, we could expand the LCS... Oh wait, Rito controls everything and probably doesn't want to play more money on player salaries... Why would you expand the LCS? So more bad teams can hand around being punching bags while there is even less talent in the challenger scene? Yeah, let's make it so that the initial bad teams who were lucky enough to get into the LCS are slightly less bad than those unlucky enough to not be the original few in the LCS so they can continue being trash. That's essentially what I'm seeing out of all this. While an expansion may not help, at least the scene wouldn't grow stale, which it certainly is beginning to feel like. Not sure what you are talking about, quite a few of the "initial teams" have been removed/replaced by now. Frankly the promo series show that the system works, if your 8th place team is still strong enough to beat the "best" challenger team they deserve to play in the league. Remember how C9 stomped promos?
To be completely honest, C9 were predicted to be at least top-3 easy before Promotions by many.
After Promotions, i was telling to friends that if this team beats TSM in Week 1, they will dominate.
Then 25-3 occured, so it's not best case to use :D
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On April 26 2014 22:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 21:59 hasuprotoss wrote:On April 26 2014 20:31 Gorsameth wrote:On April 26 2014 20:28 hasuprotoss wrote:You know, we could expand the LCS... Oh wait, Rito controls everything and probably doesn't want to play more money on player salaries... Why would you expand the LCS? So more bad teams can hand around being punching bags while there is even less talent in the challenger scene? Yeah, let's make it so that the initial bad teams who were lucky enough to get into the LCS are slightly less bad than those unlucky enough to not be the original few in the LCS so they can continue being trash. That's essentially what I'm seeing out of all this. While an expansion may not help, at least the scene wouldn't grow stale, which it certainly is beginning to feel like. Who were unlucky enough to get into LCS? Wolves who stomped their way to it? Millenium, who were best team in Europe for 8 weeks in Summer? There are no trash teams in LCS, there are some players who can be subbed, but in general they're best. And adding teams like Denial or C9E without k0u won't help the competition, it will just help getting wins to top dogs. Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 22:42 Tula wrote:On April 26 2014 21:59 hasuprotoss wrote:On April 26 2014 20:31 Gorsameth wrote:On April 26 2014 20:28 hasuprotoss wrote:You know, we could expand the LCS... Oh wait, Rito controls everything and probably doesn't want to play more money on player salaries... Why would you expand the LCS? So more bad teams can hand around being punching bags while there is even less talent in the challenger scene? Yeah, let's make it so that the initial bad teams who were lucky enough to get into the LCS are slightly less bad than those unlucky enough to not be the original few in the LCS so they can continue being trash. That's essentially what I'm seeing out of all this. While an expansion may not help, at least the scene wouldn't grow stale, which it certainly is beginning to feel like. Not sure what you are talking about, quite a few of the "initial teams" have been removed/replaced by now. Frankly the promo series show that the system works, if your 8th place team is still strong enough to beat the "best" challenger team they deserve to play in the league. Remember how C9 stomped promos? To be completely honest, C9 were predicted to be at least top-3 easy before Promotions by many. After Promotions, i was telling to friends that if this team beats TSM in Week 1, they will dominate. Then 25-3 occured, so it's not best case to use :D
C9 is a bit of a fluke. I mean... they were even more dominant in the scene than LMQ has been. Can't use them as the standard.
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Just make LCS like OGN Champions and everyone will be happy.
I missed the roster swaps discussion - IMHO Unlimited is very good, I'm suprised someone said he should be replaced. The only roster change in EU I care about is new solo laners for CW, I'd still love to see Gambit with a different ADC but I doubt it'll happen, so let's see who'll find his fortune in NA. Well, I'd also love to see Creaton in Roccat (he played with some of them in in the past and their manager was his manager in CRS.eu and earlier Millenium lineup), but Roccat is probably not looking for roster changes after a good split and neither is Creaton after re-qualifying.
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i am so hyped for todays lmq vs xdg
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It will be a very interesting day if ether XDG or LMQ win.
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The Promotions being one Bo5 for each team is a bit jarring and sometimes lead to unfortunate situations. There can be argument for making the overall margin of error larger by making it a 6 team double-elim thing in which
LCS 7 v Challenger 1
LCS 6 v Challenger 2
is the upper bracket
and LCS 8 v Challenger 3
leads to the lower bracket, with the top 3 teams advancing
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On April 27 2014 02:35 Kupon3ss wrote:
The Promotions being one Bo5 for each team is a bit jarring and sometimes lead to unfortunate situations. There can be argument for making the overall margin of error larger by making it a 6 team double-elim thing in which
LCS 7 v Challenger 1
LCS 6 v Challenger 2
is the upper bracket
and LCS 8 v Challenger 3
leads to the lower bracket, with the top 3 teams advancing
Best idea I've ever heard of.
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GO GO LMQ!!!!!!
I have been waiting for this BO5 for the last 2 months.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
LMQ gonna destroy, I hope.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
I'm on XDG hype train tonight with Fusilero.
HWAITING~
Ultimate bravery game before this epic match will be good, brb.
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xdg to defend freedom gogo
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RiP XDG
I'll miss you Xmithie
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I actually think XDG will win this. Crazy, right?
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Really hyped for this. Go LMQ! XDG dun goofed for long enough now.
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RIP XDG, Fusilero curse stronk.
I'd pay mucho e-sport dollars just to have a camera on the XDG Owner/Kenma during this series.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
XDG, LET'S GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD
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Gogo XDG :p lets see if the US can also keep all there LCS teams ^^
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EPT
