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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 18:55:54
March 16 2014 18:55 GMT
#4521
yeah reccles going 1 v 1 vs ryze. Looks like he has no idea who ryze is.
Science>Mechanics
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
March 16 2014 18:55 GMT
#4522
On March 17 2014 03:53 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Inc "international tournaments suck, stop inviting koreans"

"the international scene can't develop if Koreans get all the money"


"Plz Riot give us an infrastructure where regions can develop strength in their own ecosystem instead of getting constantly crushed by Asians"
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 16 2014 18:55 GMT
#4523
What is TSM's record vs Koreans again? like, 0-16 or something?
Writer:o
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
March 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#4524
On March 17 2014 03:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:51 Slow Motion wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.

I trust their bot lane and mid to do really well but everywhere else will be a huge problem imo.

That's good enough, 2 lanes to win, is enough to be strong team. TSM would be top 8 in korea, pretty easily imo, would be respectably strong team.

I doubt TSM mid and bot will win hard enough to counteract the fact that dyrus would get absolutely shit on my korean top laners
Jaedong :D
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#4525
On March 17 2014 03:53 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:50 killerdog wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:43 skykh wrote:
Ktb isnt even top 8 they are c-tier korean teams...


On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


I predict them not even being top 12 next post, anyone else wanna bid?


TL at its finest -.-, but really they arent in the top 5 atm probably, we'll have to wait for OGN games, but people are overreacting because a few bad masters games.


i think they can scrape in the top 5 because there are a few teams that are on par with them in skill level it just depends on which one shows up. On a good day KTB is easily a top 4 team z.z

But yes people are dumb for overreacting for a couple of bad Masters' game, a league where it was established as something that teams don't take as seriously as OGN. Faker himself even said "yeah we don't want to reveal strats in Masters" or something to that effect z.z
TranslatorBaa!
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
March 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#4526
On March 17 2014 03:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:51 Slow Motion wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.

I trust their bot lane and mid to do really well but everywhere else will be a huge problem imo.

That's good enough, 2 lanes to win, is enough to be strong team. TSM would be top 8 in korea, pretty easily imo, would be respectably strong team.

What are the 2 lanes TSM is good at?
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#4527
On March 17 2014 03:54 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:51 Slow Motion wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.

I trust their bot lane and mid to do really well but everywhere else will be a huge problem imo.

That's good enough, 2 lanes to win, is enough to be strong team. TSM would be top 8 in korea, pretty easily imo, would be respectably strong team.

Come on man. I know you troll/shit post a lot around here but you need to hide it some at least for someone to take the bait.

I'm surprised you guys really think TSM wouldn't be top 8 in Korea, they have the international level players to do it. WT/xpecial, Bjerg are all world class players, and TOO and Dyrus can hold their own. Not even a TSM fan....
liftlift > tsm
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 18:56:41
March 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#4528
On March 17 2014 03:54 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:51 Slow Motion wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.

I trust their bot lane and mid to do really well but everywhere else will be a huge problem imo.

That's good enough, 2 lanes to win, is enough to be strong team. TSM would be top 8 in korea, pretty easily imo, would be respectably strong team.


LOL


@wei are you trolling right now ?
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#4529
On March 17 2014 03:55 Kiett wrote:
What is TSM's record vs Koreans again? like, 0-16 or something?


Something like that, they have zero wins vs. Korean teams.
TranslatorBaa!
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
March 16 2014 18:57 GMT
#4530
ktb gave SKT a run for their money, in the OGN tournament, even though it was 3-0, they were tough games, except the first
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 18:57:55
March 16 2014 18:57 GMT
#4531
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.


You mean NLB?
4th place EU team Fnatic > 2nd place NA team C9
8th place KR team KTb > 4th place EU team Fnatic > 2nd place NA team C9

given C9 and TSM are only one game apart and C9 winning head to head,l its safe to say the skill level of C9 is equivalent to TSM

The only team TSM can beat by the looks of it is MIDAS or maybe Prime Optimus.
If you count getting relegated every season as 'doing well in OGN', sure, TSM will '' do well''
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
March 16 2014 18:57 GMT
#4532
On March 17 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:54 Aando wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:51 Slow Motion wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.

I trust their bot lane and mid to do really well but everywhere else will be a huge problem imo.

That's good enough, 2 lanes to win, is enough to be strong team. TSM would be top 8 in korea, pretty easily imo, would be respectably strong team.

Come on man. I know you troll/shit post a lot around here but you need to hide it some at least for someone to take the bait.

I'm surprised you guys really think TSM wouldn't be top 8 in Korea, they have the international level players to do it. WT/xpecial, Bjerg are all world class players, and TOO and Dyrus can hold their own. Not even a TSM fan....


Trying way too hard.
Jaedong & Faker
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
March 16 2014 18:57 GMT
#4533
People who think KT is a bad korean team because of masters where they played around with their roster are stupid
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
March 16 2014 18:57 GMT
#4534
i think fanatic is playing well, just some big time mistakes cost them. they need to clean up their mechanics
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#4535
On March 17 2014 03:57 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:54 Aando wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:51 Slow Motion wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:48 skykh wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


and you posting it for the 10th time this weekend doesn't make that fact any more valid either.


I hate reddit threads that saying c9/tsm/fnatic/gambit can beat top 8 korean teams LOL stop being delusional, maybe those 4 teams start to believe it thats why they doesnt even tryhard in lcs.

TSM could do pretty good in OGN imo, not top 4 or anything, but they'd hold their own really well.

I trust their bot lane and mid to do really well but everywhere else will be a huge problem imo.

That's good enough, 2 lanes to win, is enough to be strong team. TSM would be top 8 in korea, pretty easily imo, would be respectably strong team.

Come on man. I know you troll/shit post a lot around here but you need to hide it some at least for someone to take the bait.

I'm surprised you guys really think TSM wouldn't be top 8 in Korea, they have the international level players to do it. WT/xpecial, Bjerg are all world class players, and TOO and Dyrus can hold their own. Not even a TSM fan....


Trying way too hard.


wei2hardman
TranslatorBaa!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
March 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#4536
On March 17 2014 03:55 Kiett wrote:
What is TSM's record vs Koreans again? like, 0-16 or something?


Yes but the image it gives is a bit tainted because any NA team that had to play their caliber of opponents would have sufferend the same. For example CLG had a "better" record because they were able to play weak teams in OGN groups while TSM got the strong teams that travelled internationally.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
March 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#4537
that 3th game is depressing on some way. Naniwa would have left the building already.
Science>Mechanics
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
March 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#4538
Wildturtle in old quantic as adc not even top 10 na when he joined tsm top 5 adc in the world same with bjergsen, tsm fanboys love to exaggerate
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#4539
On March 17 2014 03:57 chatuka wrote:
ktb gave SKT a run for their money, in the OGN tournament, even though it was 3-0, they were tough games, except the first

Why point out irrelevant facts. KT B without Kakao are two completely different teams.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
March 16 2014 18:59 GMT
#4540
On March 17 2014 03:53 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 03:50 killerdog wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:43 skykh wrote:
Ktb isnt even top 8 they are c-tier korean teams...


On March 17 2014 03:44 skykh wrote:
not even top 10 korean> gambit , fnatic fucking pathetic.


I predict them not even being top 12 next post, anyone else wanna bid?


TL at its finest -.-, but really they arent in the top 5 atm probably, we'll have to wait for OGN games, but people are overreacting because a few bad masters games.

They still have issues obviously, compare their rotations and warding and stuff to what you can see in OGN. Still too many mistakes, Ryu clearly underperforming, what can Insec do without K6 ?
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