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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#101
On July 26 2013 05:46 ReketSomething wrote:
Ashe hit every arrow I think...pretty amazing!

Nope one missed when Jarvan ulted in front of mid tower.
Off-season = best season
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
July 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#102
On July 26 2013 05:46 ReketSomething wrote:
Ashe hit every arrow I think...pretty amazing!

Not all of them. I think it was the third arrow missed because Jarvan ulted out of the way right when it was fired. Doesn't really matter, because they still won the fight hard.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
July 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#103
On July 26 2013 05:42 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:39 Kiett wrote:
was janna banned? why would VES not pick her vs that comp...

They thought they are startegical masterminds if they dont let Lemon pick Zyra.


The casters made such a big deal about that making it sound like lemon only plays one champion, it was pretty annoying.
OMG you nasty gurl
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
July 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#104
On July 26 2013 05:45 Volband wrote:
3000 elo Ashe ult or 300 elo ADC positioning?


Zuna/10 comment.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 25 2013 20:48 GMT
#105
--- Nuked ---
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
July 25 2013 20:48 GMT
#106
On July 26 2013 05:45 Wineandbread wrote:
Can someone explain ecco's TF build to me? double dorans, fine, but into twin shadows & boots of swiftness?


Twin shadows gives MR, movespeed and the active allows you to chase the poor fool you ulti gank, swiftness boots are the fastest in the game. The movespeed allows you to continue to keep your opponent in gold card range. I am unsure but he may have gone 21 points into utility and picked up the speed upgrades as well, but that last bit I am unsure.
Inno pls...
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 25 2013 20:48 GMT
#107
On July 26 2013 05:45 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:42 Prog wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:41 DragoonTT wrote:
Ecco is not going well this match at all, and VES pretty much hinges on him making the plays...


C9 plays pretty much the perfect anti-TF strat though. Keep the laneing phase as short as possible and then force teamfights with a midgame powerspike.

Funny thing is VES were the ones to force the first teamfight by clumping on dragon.


And we all saw how that turned out... :D



To be fair, I think they didn't want to force the fight, but misjudged the situation and thought they could get dragon quickly enough and run away.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:49 GMT
#108
On July 26 2013 05:45 Wineandbread wrote:
Can someone explain ecco's TF build to me? double dorans, fine, but into twin shadows & boots of swiftness?

Ecco plays a pick oriented TF, with swifties and twin shadows he can easily track multiple people down with the help of his ult and ms
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#109
Another quick game for Cloud9 oO
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#110
VES should have swapped their bot lane top to extend laning phase. TF could continue to get picks and THEN they can get dragon instead of randomly grouping.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 20:51:14
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#111
woooooo TSM TSM TSM TSM!!!

ez 2-0 today, I can feeeel it -- TSM is back baby!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#112
On July 26 2013 05:48 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:45 Slow Motion wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:42 Prog wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:41 DragoonTT wrote:
Ecco is not going well this match at all, and VES pretty much hinges on him making the plays...


C9 plays pretty much the perfect anti-TF strat though. Keep the laneing phase as short as possible and then force teamfights with a midgame powerspike.

Funny thing is VES were the ones to force the first teamfight by clumping on dragon.


And we all saw how that turned out... :D



To be fair, I think they didn't want to force the fight, but misjudged the situation and thought they could get dragon quickly enough and run away.

They fought they can get drag quickly enough so they waited 15 secs to start it? Also, kobe's explanation was bad about the situation; he said VES waited cuz they didnt know where Balls is. So, when they see Balls is in their butt they start it, but when Balls could be far-far away, they wait instead? makes no sense.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3303 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#113
On July 26 2013 05:47 phathom321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:45 Wineandbread wrote:
Can someone explain ecco's TF build to me? double dorans, fine, but into twin shadows & boots of swiftness?

He prioritizes movement speed on TF because he wants to catch people. Afaik he also runs 9/0/21 masteries. Let's him split push and chase people down all day long


Dont need to chase people if u one shot them with Lichbane-> goldcard+cone pretty much is a kill. Lichbane also gives MS
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#114
On July 26 2013 05:48 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:45 Slow Motion wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:42 Prog wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:41 DragoonTT wrote:
Ecco is not going well this match at all, and VES pretty much hinges on him making the plays...


C9 plays pretty much the perfect anti-TF strat though. Keep the laneing phase as short as possible and then force teamfights with a midgame powerspike.

Funny thing is VES were the ones to force the first teamfight by clumping on dragon.


And we all saw how that turned out... :D



To be fair, I think they didn't want to force the fight, but misjudged the situation and thought they could get dragon quickly enough and run away.

They didn't burst down dragon fast enough and then all clumped when trying to disengage (caught by a literally perfect Ashe ult from Sneaky).
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#115
On July 26 2013 05:48 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:45 Slow Motion wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:42 Prog wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:41 DragoonTT wrote:
Ecco is not going well this match at all, and VES pretty much hinges on him making the plays...


C9 plays pretty much the perfect anti-TF strat though. Keep the laneing phase as short as possible and then force teamfights with a midgame powerspike.

Funny thing is VES were the ones to force the first teamfight by clumping on dragon.


And we all saw how that turned out... :D



To be fair, I think they didn't want to force the fight, but misjudged the situation and thought they could get dragon quickly enough and run away.

Which would have been true initially, but wasn't by the time they acted. It's too bad because after that C9 just absolutely bullied. I'm not totally convinced C9 doesn't just hit that group up and stomp point eventually anyway, but it might not have been quite so devastating.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
July 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#116
On July 26 2013 05:45 Wineandbread wrote:
Can someone explain ecco's TF build to me? double dorans, fine, but into twin shadows & boots of swiftness?

Very gank-focused build, didn't make any sense in this situation though, especially after they lost that first fight so decisively. Laning phase (and therefore, ganking opportunities) was over, and every C9 champ was easily able to duel TF.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 25 2013 20:53 GMT
#117
On July 26 2013 05:50 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:48 Prog wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:45 Slow Motion wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:42 Prog wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:41 DragoonTT wrote:
Ecco is not going well this match at all, and VES pretty much hinges on him making the plays...


C9 plays pretty much the perfect anti-TF strat though. Keep the laneing phase as short as possible and then force teamfights with a midgame powerspike.

Funny thing is VES were the ones to force the first teamfight by clumping on dragon.


And we all saw how that turned out... :D



To be fair, I think they didn't want to force the fight, but misjudged the situation and thought they could get dragon quickly enough and run away.

They fought they can get drag quickly enough so they waited 15 secs to start it? Also, kobe's explanation was bad about the situation; he said VES waited cuz they didnt know where Balls is. So, when they see Balls is in their butt they start it, but when Balls could be far-far away, they wait instead? makes no sense.


The only way for me to explain is that at first they did not know where rumble was, so they were too scared. Then they saw Rumble together with some other champ (don't remember who) pushing mid, so they thought C9 wants to trade mid tower for the dragon. So they went for it. If they wanted to go for the 5v5 fight, why should they wait in first place when they don't see Rumble?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2013 20:53 GMT
#118
Solid play by cloud9. Very smart strategical approach against that comp.
However that FB was unnecessary... Lemonnation is still my favourite player though
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 25 2013 20:54 GMT
#119
twin shadows+swifties is fine.. but if he indeed runs 9/0/21, as well that's totally overkill and deals no dmg at all until he finishes an actual good item like lichbane.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
July 25 2013 20:55 GMT
#120
Thanks for the clarification! Yeah it didn't seem to make much sense to me either given the teamfight presence of all of c9's champ picks; I feel a build like that relies very heavily on your teammates to follow up on damage since twin shadows & swifties provide minimal burst potential compared to something like lich bane
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