EPT[OGN] Hotsix The Champions Summer 2013 - Page 72
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GolemMadness
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Googled Twitch Download. Downloaded the 30 minutes with the opening in it. Then cut the intro out in FLV editor. Then upload to YT. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
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TheLink
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Chexx
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bittman
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EDIT: Btw, how come there are no recommend polls for OGN threads? | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:03 TheLink wrote: Ryze built Frozen Heart because it deals more damage than dedicated tank items like Spirit Visage... why is that so bad? he's getting so much crap for it. :S It does not, that's part of the point.^^ Mana items give you more burst, but Spirit Visage more damage overall because of CDR. | ||
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DragoonTT
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Edit: Also, if you have teleport lategame, and can afford having a squishy build, backing out and teleporting in, it's probably the single best use of teleport if you don't have anything to splitpush anyway. | ||
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asLeep
United States293 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:03 TheLink wrote: Ryze built Frozen Heart because it deals more damage than dedicated tank items like Spirit Visage... why is that so bad? he's getting so much crap for it. :S prob because since other team had mainly magic dmg with kennen/tf/fiddle ult he doesn't really stay in fights long enough to do that dmg since he had to recall and tp back in constantly | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:03 TheLink wrote: Ryze built Frozen Heart because it deals more damage than dedicated tank items like Spirit Visage... why is that so bad? he's getting so much crap for it. :S He keeps getting melted in the teamfights thus doing less damage that's why he's getting flak | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:04 Prog wrote: It does not, that's part of the point.^^ Mana items give you more burst, but Spirit Visage more damage overall because of CDR. But Frozen Heart gives the CDR and the mana. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
True, it just takes waaaay longer to get and until you complete it, it does less. Edit: remember that he did not build glacial first, but rather the pure armor items. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:03 TheLink wrote: Ryze built Frozen Heart because it deals more damage than dedicated tank items like Spirit Visage... why is that so bad? he's getting so much crap for it. :S You cant do damage when you are dead. Last 3 big fights he had to back, TP back in and carry on. Dont forget he got out lucky 3 times on < 20% hp | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:07 ihasaKAROT wrote: You cant do damage when you are dead. Last 3 big fights he had to back, TP back in and carry on. Dont forget he got out lucky 3 times on < 20% hp Not necessarily agreeing with it. It's just weird that we're criticising an AP carry so much for building a 3rd damage item rather than a tank one. It's not like he hasn't noticed the mass AP thing he just priorities damage over defense which is an arguable stance for him to take. I mean are we going to start criticising Kog-Maw for not rushing Spirit Visage? | ||
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Chexx
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Poll: Who will win between Blaze and Sword? CJ Entus Blaze (4) Najin Black Sword (1) 5 total votes Your vote: Who will win between Blaze and Sword? | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:10 TheLink wrote: Not necessarily agreeing with it. It's just weird that we're criticising an AP carry so much for building a 3rd damage item rather than a tank one. It's not like he hasn't noticed the mass AP thing he just priorities damage over defense which is an arguable stance for him to take. I mean are we going to start criticising Kog-Maw for not rushing Spirit Visage? But why not take Spirit Visage first and then get another damage item? You could even (for the sake of argument) go for SV and 2 mana crystals for the same damage that FH gives, but with a better build path, more tankiness and the (argueably) better passive. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:10 TheLink wrote: Not necessarily agreeing with it. It's just weird that we're criticising an AP carry so much for building a 3rd damage item rather than a tank one. It's not like he hasn't noticed the mass AP thing he just priorities damage over defense which is an arguable stance for him to take. I mean are we going to start criticising Kog-Maw for not rushing Spirit Visage? He didn't build a damage item. He build a hybrid item that leaned more on damage side against this comp than defense side. SV is the same but leans more to defensive side. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On July 17 2013 21:10 TheLink wrote: Not necessarily agreeing with it. It's just weird that we're criticising an AP carry so much for building a 3rd damage item rather than a tank one. It's not like he hasn't noticed the mass AP thing he just priorities damage over defense which is an arguable stance for him to take. I mean are we going to start criticising Kog-Maw for not rushing Spirit Visage? Your last comment is pointless, Kog is not in the same position in the fight as Ryze is. Ryze is an engager / catcher / blocker for Kog , while Kog just shoots from a safe distance. What Ryze did was try and capitalize on a hook or bad positioning from the other team, they put him near the frontline. Near the frontline you will take damage, and magicdamage was pretty much all the damage they did. The CDR you get from both items, you can cross that out, leaves armor + mana or healing + MR. Healing with his ult on in teamfights + mitigating magicdamage is waaay stronger then the manacrystal in that formula. The frozenheart has just too many wasted stats on Ryze vs that team, the armor and attackspeedreduction are fine, but just not there. Again my previous statement, you cant do damage when you are dead. If you can heal for that much more and take that much less damage, its so much better than the 'damageitem'. Even IF he wanted to get more raw damage, voidstaff would have been a good choice there. | ||
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Chexx
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