EPTIn other news, did anyone else see that LoL had almost 90% of the viewership on tving? On a sunday?
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
In other news, did anyone else see that LoL had almost 90% of the viewership on tving? On a sunday? | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On May 26 2013 21:05 wei2coolman wrote: They're all visibly better than yellowpete. Mechanically speaking they are far stronger than yellowpete. Their ability to carry and kite out a team fight is just a step above . Also in current meta aggressive adcs seem to reign king. Dont get me wrong. I understand yellowpete gets shafted by farm priorities on his team. But even so he's marketdly worse than cop who share same farm priority. And id name all those adc as better adcs then cop (in a vacuum) I'm sorry to be so rude, but you are regurgitating the same inane argument that will never evolve beyond simple beliefs that cannot be disproven. Regardless of whether you are right or wrong, the way you construct your arguments are totally invalid from the start. You are simply attatching random qualities you "eye-tested" personally to players you are familiar with without referencing to any specific games, or professional opinions, or even cross-referencing any of tournaments they played in. How do you rate a player in "vacuum" when obviously a player's performance varies [iheavily][/i] on various circumstances including their team's performance, the quality of the opposition, the numerous in-game circumstances I have mentioned in my previous post, and their ever-changing form? It's totally retarded to rate players without accounting for the patch they are playing in, the circumstances of the tournament they were playing in, their opposition, the team-composition, the events that happened in-game that directly influenced their performance, and even then we cannot know for sure because we never have the full scope of understanding of the actual state of things as a mere spectator. Hell, like I mentioned beforehand, even professional players do not have neccesarily have the correct view on things. It's okay to believe in some things. I think amateur players on the Korean server such as Crumble Cookies has more crisp mechanics and champion pool than many of the famous professional players, and have personally seen him out-perform professional players on the Challenger League in Korea. However, I do not go around stating things as status quo, asserting a particular agenda on public forums by stating such as: "Oh my god guys, Crumble Cookies has such an insane champion pool, and his mechanics are so out of this world, he mocks the opposition with awesome jabs at their obvious lack of skill, as he does his full rotation of skills in a perfect order. Imagine how good he would be if he didn't troll around! Also his farming is so good, he never misses a single CS! He is obviously way better than these famous players like Ocelote, Scarra, and Reginald. The difference in their mechanics is so obvious. Remember that time he outplayed Toyz when they met on the Korean Challenger League? When's the last time any of the players I listed did anything close to that? He is the greatest. I just know it." It's stupid to state things like the above, because there's no point in spewing out your beliefs if you cannot back it up with proper arguments. I really can't see the difference in the uselessness of the statement above, and your method of rating AD carries in particular. Of course nobody can disprove your beliefs, but at the same time, there's no value at all in your statements at all because they are nothing but your personal beliefs. There's more to explaning why a certain players are better or worse than the other than putting random qualities you believe to be superior in certain players than the other. Do it in detail. Explain in which games you've watched in order to arrive to this conclusion, why these games back up your beliefs, and how the situation in the games allows you to judge the aspects of these players you noted accurately, and fairly. Until you do so, some kid might as well start listing a random bunch of solo-que heroes people never heard of, but he thought were awesome when he watched them streaming, proceed to announce them as the greatest players ever because in vacuum they were better mechanically, with amazing decision making, and out of the world farming ability. How can you tell? Because he just knows after watching them. He just can tell. See how unproductive and time-wasting these kind of arguments can be? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
what's the definition of athletic anyway in that way. bruce lee definitely was atheltic lol. Every worldclass gymnast is athletic as hell. And asians are top notch there, too. Just finished watching today games. Korea dominant. Just amazing play. As xpecial said you can't outban them and it's so hard to pick against them. they have so many champs that are so strong. I mean you can't even outban 1, how you want to do it against 4 or 5. Koreans showing the world how to esports once again. Until other nations going to take esports serious enough (china comes close I guess) it will stay that way. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
damn this is sooo high level. Still confused how Insec makes Lee word so good, Lee feels sooo weak currently whenever I play him in soloQ or meet another Lee, he even goes sightstone after Madred's so no real Combat stats. And Madlife just *____* I wonder if Misaya was abit cocky in Game 1 not banning TF although ambition has 100% in comp. play with him. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On May 26 2013 23:33 AsnSensation wrote: Rewatching the CH vs KOR series currently because I was half asleep this morning damn this is sooo high level. Still confused how Insec makes Lee word so good, Lee feels sooo weak currently whenever I play him in soloQ or meet another Lee, he even goes sightstone after Madred's so no real Combat stats. And Madlife just *____* I wonder if Misaya was abit cocky in Game 1 not banning TF although ambition has 100% in comp. play with him. Ambition said in his post-game interview that he purposefully refrained from playing Twisted Fate too much when they scrimmed against Team WE (they do so a lot). He felt like Misaya didn't expect him to pick Twisted Fate, because he played mind tricks on Misaya by playing AOE champions like Kennen versus the North American All Stars team, and that put him off his game. The champions he really wanted to take for his team were Twisted Fate, Jayce, and Khazix, but he didn't play any of those champions in the previous round in order to confuse Misaya. I'm not sure if it worked out, or if it just happened to be Misaya feeling confident against playing Twisted Fate, a champion he understands fully. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13933 Posts
On May 26 2013 18:20 Fionn wrote: The finals were probably the most high level games of the weekends with a lot of cool stuff, but all four games on the final day were total stomps. But the last two were at least stylish stomps. NA/Korea was just kind of sad, you knew it was coming and this is how it's going to go stomps. The second day was pretty good I think. NA vs EU is a series people are going to be feeling for a long long time afterwords and the KR CN p1 and SEA CN series weren't too bad either. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On May 26 2013 18:33 SnK-Arcbound wrote: It is entirely for the better. Anyone that would rather listen to blathering nonsense, rather then something stimulating, is a fickle one. You do cater to a casual audience. Everyone benefits from insightful commentary. No one benefits from retarded screaming. The only reason why your numbers aren't super high, is an english speaking audience usually isn't awake when you're casting. I highly disagree. For League of Legends, I don't care about analysis. I watch it to have a good time, joke around with friends. I don't need analysis. Phreak trolling, and Kobe saying silly stuff adds to the flavor for me. I like Doa and MC too, but usually I prefer the Riot casters. If having a different opinion than you makes me fickle, or what not, then so be it! Also, being a casual myself, I definitely feel Riot does a better job of catering to me. I watch League like I watch sports. Commentators on mostly for the one liners while laughing with friends. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
On May 26 2013 23:45 Letmelose wrote: Ambition said in his post-game interview that he purposefully refrained from playing Twisted Fate too much when they scrimmed against Team WE (they do so a lot). He felt like Misaya didn't expect him to pick Twisted Fate, because he played mind tricks on Misaya by playing AOE champions like Kennen versus the North American All Stars team, and that put him off his game. The champions he really wanted to take for his team were Twisted Fate, Jayce, and Khazix, but he didn't play any of those champions in the previous round in order to confuse Misaya. I'm not sure if it worked out, or if it just happened to be Misaya feeling confident against playing Twisted Fate, a champion he understands fully. Where are you getting the interviews ? | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Korean broadcast I guess | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On May 26 2013 23:45 Letmelose wrote: Ambition said in his post-game interview that he purposefully refrained from playing Twisted Fate too much when they scrimmed against Team WE (they do so a lot). He felt like Misaya didn't expect him to pick Twisted Fate, because he played mind tricks on Misaya by playing AOE champions like Kennen versus the North American All Stars team, and that put him off his game. The champions he really wanted to take for his team were Twisted Fate, Jayce, and Khazix, but he didn't play any of those champions in the previous round in order to confuse Misaya. I'm not sure if it worked out, or if it just happened to be Misaya feeling confident against playing Twisted Fate, a champion he understands fully. thx for the insight, Amibition you sly dog :D holy fucking shit, in game 2 Shy was just raping PDD, I didn't even think of waiting till all the zac blobs are in the center and kill them all of at once with one acceleration Blast. That was sick :D | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On May 27 2013 01:51 AsnSensation wrote: thx for the insight, Amibition you sly dog :D holy fucking shit, in game 2 Shy was just raping PDD, I didn't even think of waiting till all the zac blobs are in the center and kill them all of at once with one acceleration Blast. That was sick :D Even PDD did not think of this. He posted of Weibo(Chinese version of Twitter) that he never though that Jayce EQ could just kill all his blobs at one like that. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
really looking forward to some player thoughts about the games. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GhE5sVb.jpg) lol at Insec'ica Alba and Shy Hooker | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On May 27 2013 03:31 checo wrote: I would have love to see a NA vs Garena match... just for the hell of it Next year Riot should really do some kind of round robin/group play for the five teams. Then seed the 4 best into a bracket. The format for this years All-Stars was pretty lame and it would've been a lot cooler to get to see all five teams play against each other. How would EU fair against CN? What about NA, EU, or KR against SEA? It could potentially be too expensive or something as they'd either need to make it a four day event or else play a ton. Although, maybe they could just do the group play on Friday/Saturday and then do the semi-finals and finals on Sunday. Aside from the format this event was spectacular though. Riot did a great job with their first All-Star event. I wonder if next time regions will vote differently or if we'll still see Gambit and WE win all five spots. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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redemption
United States112 Posts
On May 27 2013 03:35 krndandaman wrote: yes i'm not denying that bruce lee is athletic or that gymnasts are athletic. i'm saying that NBA players are by far the MOST athletic. they are physical specimens beyond their peers. for one, to even compete in the NBA you need to be at the very least somewhere above 6 foot. and even then, these guys are quick as hell. basketball requires extreme speed/agility, body control, physical strength, vertical leap, etc. no other sport demands that much physical requirements. athleticism is so important in basketball that some people who are completely dumb and have extremely low basketball IQ are in the NBA (ex. Kwame Brown) just because of their rare physical attributes. Guys like Lebron James can probably play multiple sports as a professional athlete easy. I'm willing to bet my money that LBJ could become an NFL player right this second and that if he wanted to, could have been a professional soccer player or baseball player. He is just that physically gifted and athletic. just curious, do you watch basketball/NBA? I would say both football and soccer require significantly more athleticism than basketball. I don't understand how you can say NBA players are the "most" athletic. Sure, Lebron James could probably play football instead of basketball if he wanted to, but he's a freak of nature. Most NBA players would get completely crushed in the NFL, who are you kidding? Derrick Rose gets injured if someone breathes on him, while football players get tackled and beaten up every single day. | ||
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redemption
United States112 Posts
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