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overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 08 2012 12:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Indeed. All looked at and written off. Maybe crucified if that team lost so they have a scapegoat. There's no solid evidence that anyone cheated. I'm pretty sure you could find questionable plays that every team did and make a case that they were cheating. The fact that this involves the most popular team and a non-western team points to bias. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On October 08 2012 11:20 TheYango wrote: TBH the best use of a booth-less environment IMO is the way some Chinese DotA tournaments were--where teams are actively allowed to shout across the stage at each other (taunting, trolling, all that). It becomes part of the spectacle, and in some way it adds more than it detracts if you embrace the open-ness of a booth-less setup. But in the way Riot has it set up (headsets that block sound, forcing players to look forward), they have the closed atmosphere of booths without actually having the booths to really make it closed and comfortable for the players--the worst of both worlds. This is basically how it is/ or was at MLG Halo events, there is lots of taunts and trash talk, it can get very heated. It's really touch and go though, cause for a lot of it, the fans get in to it, and it's all fun, but some times teams or players can take it to far and they have had incidents where gears players have got in fights, I think a player got beat up once(this was a non professional team though, and I don't know all of the details, it really sucks though Sundance made a big post about behavior, there was also a huge problem where MLG fans were tearing up the hotels and Sundance was having trouble being hosted in new places cause of the bad reputation, One MLG Orlando had a ton of hotel damage in the rooms/and to the building.) I know this was just assholes ruining it for everyone else, but yeah. Also while the trash talk is great for the fans, I remember at events where someone would get a triple kill and then jump up, turn to other team and scream at them lol.. really got us in the stands in to it, also when I played the open bracket it was so exciting when something big happened and the crowd around me got excited, I never finished well in these tournaments I'm no xxxMLGxxx2393923xx PRO, but man I had a match go to time once, so no other matches were going on, so we had a small crowd despite being unknown, and it was one of the most exciting moments of my life with people going crazy when the game ended(we won a king of the hill game by two seconds)... I'll never forget it, my best friend was from that team and we play LOL together and visit each other in different states despite not being on a team anymore. Also sometimes it doesn't look so professional, I'm sure sponsors and stuff take that in to mind, but to be fair look at other t.v. hits like wrestling and maybe professionalism isn't the best, rivalries can create quite the hype going in to a tournament, especially if they are heated. I am all for booths, despite my love for the open environment. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
One quote stuck out for me: On October 07 2012 04:38 cascades wrote: So all the weixiao hype. Someone tell me what WX does right cos I don't see it. This is a consistent opinion just like the WX hype by certain posters. hype? l0l Misaya kinda disappointed me from the series in terms of teamfighting. He's a better AP mid than Froggen but he's not showing it (outside laning phase) as convincingly as he can be. Caomei is beasting though, at least compared to expectations. | ||
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
On October 08 2012 12:07 overt wrote: There's no solid evidence that anyone cheated. I'm pretty sure you could find questionable plays that every team did and make a case that they were cheating. The fact that this involves the most popular team and a non-western team points to bias. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HNbhk.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hntqU.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Fw6hy.jpg) | ||
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CeriseCherries
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 08 2012 12:07 overt wrote: There's no solid evidence that anyone cheated. I'm pretty sure you could find questionable plays that every team did and make a case that they were cheating. The fact that this involves the most popular team and a non-western team points to bias. No solid evidence is in the eye of the beholder. Do you honestly believe nobody cheated when it was that easy? | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
In case you missed, that is nowhere close to being a solid evidence. You also proved his point, since you didn't include any popular western teams doing something similar. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
Give WE a couple months and possibly a couple more roster tweaks if necessary and they will be beast. Top 3 with Frost and Blaze easy IMO. | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
Look how TSM is looking at the minimap, while azubu is looking in the same direction as the filthy TSM cheaters. There's no way Azubu could've seen anything on the minimap here, while TSM did. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 08 2012 12:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: No solid evidence is in the eye of the beholder. Do you honestly believe nobody cheated when it was that easy? I actually think it's very likely that everyone cheated. Or at least that most people cheated. Good luck proving it though. The community is only outraged and looking for examples of teams that aren't western teams. Dyrus got caught looking too. People are okay with it since it was during a pause, and they re-made the game. So no harm no foul right? But the ping in that one screen shot is likely non-consequential considering the stream is on a ten second delay, meaning the ping happened ten seconds before the Frost player even looked at the stream. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On October 08 2012 12:50 1ntrigue wrote: Just watched the VODs of CLG.eu vs WE since I was busy on the weekend. One quote stuck out for me: hype? l0l Misaya kinda disappointed me from the series in terms of teamfighting. He's a better AP mid than Froggen but he's not showing it (outside laning phase) as convincingly as he can be. Caomei is beasting though, at least compared to expectations. Lol indeed. That post was made at the start of Game 1 of CLG.eu-WE, where I thought WX got caught a second time without flash up and gave up FB, which would have been a very amateur mistake, Instead it was someone else. Only excuse was that I was tired watching it in like 3am. In any case, he conclusively proved it later on in the series. That was an obvious display of class. When their team is beasting, ADCs simply just need to do their job. I had failed to spot the small things that still alerted others to his class, and I would still like others to enlighten me here. Misaya was outplaying Froggen hard at least in game 1, haven't looked through the other games where he may have failed. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
Weixiao is probably the absolute best "standard" AD carry player in the world. His mechanics are best, his positioning is the best, and his farming is the best (all of which are better than Doublelift), but what really sets him apart is that he rarely makes bad decisions. He doesn't man-mode unless he knows he can do it, and he always waits until the critical spells are blown before he jumps in and cleans up. He's the quintessential AD carry of the current pro scene. On the other hand, Weixiao rarely makes huge plays in the midgame around the time of the first major item like Doublelift or aphromoo (although he destroys the laning phase), but tbh, this fits WE's playstyle more as they require a farmed AD carry for lategame while Misaya dictates the midgame. Together, WE has better teamfight play than even CLG.eu (mostly due to yellowpete being far worse than Weixiao). Their problem has always been the lack of jungle presence, which against good teams, takes away the midgame strength from Misaya, and allows their bot lane to be camped, meaning that their weak top lane gets wrecked at will. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Can I ask who didn't see this coming? Or at least even the possibility? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 08 2012 17:01 Itsmedudeman wrote: Really, they should have implemented LAN/save points BEFORE this event. Idk why people say it's acceptable to learn from their mistakes NOW after so many public LAN events from other games, many of which also happened to LoL. And yeah, there's definitely no 100% soundproof headset, especially when it gets really loud. The table angle related to the big-screen was completely unacceptable and so easy to fix, and you didn't even need a booth. Can I ask who didn't see this coming? Or at least even the possibility? Someone made the point that having a soundproof headset is also pretty pointless if your mic pics up the ambient sound anyway. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On October 08 2012 15:08 1ntrigue wrote: Misaya's Orianna wasn't that impressive. + Show Spoiler + There were times when he used his ult prematurely and another time when he whiffed it, and he got caught out several times as well by Malphite and Cho'Gath. Maybe I'm just used to him playing on a higher level, but his teamfighting wasn't as good as the Misaya I'm used to seeing. Weixiao is probably the absolute best "standard" AD carry player in the world. His mechanics are best, his positioning is the best, and his farming is the best (all of which are better than Doublelift), but what really sets him apart is that he rarely makes bad decisions. He doesn't man-mode unless he knows he can do it, and he always waits until the critical spells are blown before he jumps in and cleans up. He's the quintessential AD carry of the current pro scene. On the other hand, Weixiao rarely makes huge plays in the midgame around the time of the first major item like Doublelift or aphromoo (although he destroys the laning phase), but tbh, this fits WE's playstyle more as they require a farmed AD carry for lategame while Misaya dictates the midgame. Together, WE has better teamfight play than even CLG.eu (mostly due to yellowpete being far worse than Weixiao). Their problem has always been the lack of jungle presence, which against good teams, takes away the midgame strength from Misaya, and allows their bot lane to be camped, meaning that their weak top lane gets wrecked at will He's the only Orianna player I've seen who can actually consistently place it correctly when using it as an escape tool though. Most people end up pulling nme champs towards them when trying to get away  Well, I say consistently but I remember 2 moments when he does it perfectly to escape ganks that stick out in my recollection. On October 08 2012 09:47 nojitosunrise wrote: According to reddit (from Krepo's stream) Matches to be replayed on Wednesday (fresh Bo3 for CLG and WE) Official Riot Statement http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2655300 Fresh bo3? Game 1 was legitimately won and over, have riot actually said this? | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On October 08 2012 18:55 Full.tilt wrote: He's the only Orianna player I've seen who can actually consistently place it correctly when using it as an escape tool though. Most people end up pulling nme champs towards them when trying to get away Well, I say consistently but I remember 2 moments when he does it perfectly to escape ganks that stick out in my recollection. Fresh bo3? Game 1 was legitimately won and over, have riot actually said this? It was such a shitstorm that I'm pretty happy they decided the whole Bo3 was not legitimate and everything should be played from scratch. MOAR GAMES TO COMMENT FOR ME :D | ||
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SlayerS_Jigglypuff
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