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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 08 2012 11:47 GMT
#12021
On October 08 2012 20:21 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote:
I can't believe that people are still raging about Azubu Frost cheating. Be happy it was broadcasted live and that we all could enjoy the great matches. My opinion: people who are raging about Azubu Frost are just sore losers and fans of TSM. You didn't really expected TSM could beat Azubu Frost? :O


WTF somebody coming in declare alot of people as sore losers because they raised a valid point that there was a possibility
that somebody looked at the minimap.
In my opinion that ping of Azubu Frost is wierd but if Riot says that they did not cheat. Because they had better camera view and refeeres for that. I believe them.

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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 08 2012 11:51 GMT
#12022
Everyone is still going about TSM because most of the American lol community (eg reddit) are basically extreme TSM fanboys and won't stop complaining until something happens (unlikely) or something new happens at which point they will all forget about it.

Riot's statement is pretty useless, but tbh it's impossible situation for them to make any meaningful statement or decisions in apart from saying sorry awkwardly.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
October 08 2012 11:53 GMT
#12023
On October 08 2012 17:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Really, they should have implemented LAN/save points BEFORE this event. Idk why people say it's acceptable to learn from their mistakes NOW after so many public LAN events from other games, many of which also happened to LoL. And yeah, there's definitely no 100% soundproof headset, especially when it gets really loud. The table angle related to the big-screen was completely unacceptable and so easy to fix, and you didn't even need a booth.

Can I ask who didn't see this coming? Or at least even the possibility?


Yeah I agree. Like nobody from riot when they were setting up the stage sat down at the player's table and looked around, noticing the visible minimap thought that something might be problematic ?
It's a million dollar tournament, of course the temptation of cheating is gonna be there, riot should have prevented any way of doing so - which isn't difficult on such a stage.
It's a massive screw up on riot's part.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 12:37:37
October 08 2012 12:31 GMT
#12024
On October 08 2012 06:25 SkelA wrote:
So this tourney just was a total disaster for riot/lol ? With all that money I thought they could at least do a better job organizing their own tourney.


ITS OK WE GET DOUBLE IP FOR ONE DAY. ALL IS FORGIVEN -.-

srsly wtf


On October 08 2012 20:21 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote:
I can't believe that people are still raging about Azubu Frost cheating. Be happy it was broadcasted live and that we all could enjoy the great matches. My opinion: people who are raging about Azubu Frost are just sore losers and fans of TSM. You didn't really expected TSM could beat Azubu Frost? :O


Has esport sunk so low that we should be happy with free streams and live broadcasts? O_O
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 12:37:47
October 08 2012 12:36 GMT
#12025
----
double post
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
October 08 2012 12:43 GMT
#12026
I can't believe that people are still raging about Azubu Frost cheating. Be happy it was broadcasted live and that we all could enjoy the great matches. My opinion: people who are raging about Azubu Frost are just sore losers and fans of TSM. You didn't really expected TSM could beat Azubu Frost? :O


Be happy I sat there for what, 7 hours? For a best of 3 that never concluded? 3 dropped games in that time and a ton of downtime in between? I'm REAL thankful for that! No I love Riot for it, because I haven't seen any other esports tournament ever online, and every other tournament is rife with cheating so there's nothing special here other than the fact that for the first time I get to watch it!

"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
October 08 2012 12:49 GMT
#12027
On October 08 2012 21:31 CROrens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 06:25 SkelA wrote:
So this tourney just was a total disaster for riot/lol ? With all that money I thought they could at least do a better job organizing their own tourney.


ITS OK WE GET DOUBLE IP FOR ONE DAY. ALL IS FORGIVEN -.-

srsly wtf


Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 20:21 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote:
I can't believe that people are still raging about Azubu Frost cheating. Be happy it was broadcasted live and that we all could enjoy the great matches. My opinion: people who are raging about Azubu Frost are just sore losers and fans of TSM. You didn't really expected TSM could beat Azubu Frost? :O


Has esport sunk so low that we should be happy with free streams and live broadcasts? O_O


Uh what's so bad about the double IP?

They admitted they fucked up pretty bad. They acknowledged that the visible minimap was horrible. Should they have seen that coming? sure, but afterwards that's the only thing they can do and don't repeat it in the future.

They also acknowledged that being reliant on an ISP for the game itself is a bad idea, therefor they are working on LAN now.

Sure, they should have done all of that before, and you don't have to be a genuis to see that coming, or at least the possibility. As I said they fucked up pretty damn bad. And riot basically said that themselfm, too. As long as they actually act on what they say they did everything right after the accident.. No need to call them out on the double IP. It's just an extra they give to please the stupid crowd. (who probably will cry for more anyway lol).
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 08 2012 12:50 GMT
#12028
The double IP is more for the online viewers than live spectators, most of them said they weren't discouraged at all
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 08 2012 12:52 GMT
#12029
Of course it's just to calm down the sheeping masses, but I wanna get RP instead.

fk IP.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
October 08 2012 13:09 GMT
#12030
It's such an obvious mistake to not have booths, it makes me wonder if they didn't put it there on purpose.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 08 2012 13:11 GMT
#12031
the crowd was having too much fun cheering at every ward kill!
KarlKaliente
Profile Joined March 2012
United States434 Posts
October 08 2012 13:14 GMT
#12032
On October 08 2012 22:11 Slayer91 wrote:
the crowd was having too much fun cheering at every ward kill!


I was getting into that at home, seemed like a good way to release some energy after a long day. It was funny to see the players confused by all the noise as well. Sad the last game was dropped so early.
UMS > Melee
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
October 08 2012 13:21 GMT
#12033
When I watched TI2 for Dota2 in the booths there were 3 ppl standing behind eache team at all time.

Why they cant afford to do the same to monitor for cheating like that ? Its a big tourney and any form of cheating should be punished without mercy.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
October 08 2012 13:38 GMT
#12034
On October 08 2012 21:49 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 21:31 CROrens wrote:
On October 08 2012 06:25 SkelA wrote:
So this tourney just was a total disaster for riot/lol ? With all that money I thought they could at least do a better job organizing their own tourney.


ITS OK WE GET DOUBLE IP FOR ONE DAY. ALL IS FORGIVEN -.-

srsly wtf


On October 08 2012 20:21 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote:
I can't believe that people are still raging about Azubu Frost cheating. Be happy it was broadcasted live and that we all could enjoy the great matches. My opinion: people who are raging about Azubu Frost are just sore losers and fans of TSM. You didn't really expected TSM could beat Azubu Frost? :O


Has esport sunk so low that we should be happy with free streams and live broadcasts? O_O


Uh what's so bad about the double IP?

They admitted they fucked up pretty bad. They acknowledged that the visible minimap was horrible. Should they have seen that coming? sure, but afterwards that's the only thing they can do and don't repeat it in the future.

They also acknowledged that being reliant on an ISP for the game itself is a bad idea, therefor they are working on LAN now.

Sure, they should have done all of that before, and you don't have to be a genuis to see that coming, or at least the possibility. As I said they fucked up pretty damn bad. And riot basically said that themselfm, too. As long as they actually act on what they say they did everything right after the accident.. No need to call them out on the double IP. It's just an extra they give to please the stupid crowd. (who probably will cry for more anyway lol).


Of course nothing is wrong with free IP, but it looks pitiful. I hate when someone tries to buy me off. Id rather they didnt do the whole free ip for a day at all.
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 08 2012 13:41 GMT
#12035
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you have to turn your head sideways and then clearly upwards to talk to an ally? I mean, were there pictures of people turning to face the opposite direction of the minimap, or did everyone just happen to turn towards them? I guess I just don't understand having to turn 110 degrees to talk to an ally. I'm just kinda confused why anyone's allowed to do it.
Hey! How you doin'?
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 08 2012 13:45 GMT
#12036
On October 08 2012 22:21 SkelA wrote:
When I watched TI2 for Dota2 in the booths there were 3 ppl standing behind eache team at all time.

Why they cant afford to do the same to monitor for cheating like that ? Its a big tourney and any form of cheating should be punished without mercy.


According to Riot they had people monitoring all player cams at alltime.

@the guy who waited 7hours

Apparently you found the games so interesting that you got out of your way to wait 7hours. Its not like you never watch a SC tournament before.
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DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 14:13:35
October 08 2012 14:13 GMT
#12037
On October 08 2012 22:45 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 22:21 SkelA wrote:
When I watched TI2 for Dota2 in the booths there were 3 ppl standing behind eache team at all time.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=29971787#29971787
"Players make eye contact on stage fairly regularly"

it's impressive how easily the community swallows the shameless doublespeak of riot
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
October 08 2012 14:37 GMT
#12038
On October 08 2012 22:38 CROrens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 21:49 Keniji wrote:
On October 08 2012 21:31 CROrens wrote:
On October 08 2012 06:25 SkelA wrote:
So this tourney just was a total disaster for riot/lol ? With all that money I thought they could at least do a better job organizing their own tourney.


ITS OK WE GET DOUBLE IP FOR ONE DAY. ALL IS FORGIVEN -.-

srsly wtf


On October 08 2012 20:21 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote:
I can't believe that people are still raging about Azubu Frost cheating. Be happy it was broadcasted live and that we all could enjoy the great matches. My opinion: people who are raging about Azubu Frost are just sore losers and fans of TSM. You didn't really expected TSM could beat Azubu Frost? :O


Has esport sunk so low that we should be happy with free streams and live broadcasts? O_O


Uh what's so bad about the double IP?

They admitted they fucked up pretty bad. They acknowledged that the visible minimap was horrible. Should they have seen that coming? sure, but afterwards that's the only thing they can do and don't repeat it in the future.

They also acknowledged that being reliant on an ISP for the game itself is a bad idea, therefor they are working on LAN now.

Sure, they should have done all of that before, and you don't have to be a genuis to see that coming, or at least the possibility. As I said they fucked up pretty damn bad. And riot basically said that themselfm, too. As long as they actually act on what they say they did everything right after the accident.. No need to call them out on the double IP. It's just an extra they give to please the stupid crowd. (who probably will cry for more anyway lol).


Of course nothing is wrong with free IP, but it looks pitiful. I hate when someone tries to buy me off. Id rather they didnt do the whole free ip for a day at all.


oh yea i get that. And it felt like riot did that before.

Anyway as long as they adress the real problem which they did I don't see a problem with it.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 08 2012 14:45 GMT
#12039
On October 08 2012 23:13 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 22:45 Chexx wrote:
On October 08 2012 22:21 SkelA wrote:
When I watched TI2 for Dota2 in the booths there were 3 ppl standing behind eache team at all time.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=29971787#29971787
"Players make eye contact on stage fairly regularly"

it's impressive how easily the community swallows the shameless doublespeak of riot


your point is.... ?

WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
October 08 2012 15:16 GMT
#12040
On October 08 2012 22:45 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 22:21 SkelA wrote:
When I watched TI2 for Dota2 in the booths there were 3 ppl standing behind eache team at all time.

Why they cant afford to do the same to monitor for cheating like that ? Its a big tourney and any form of cheating should be punished without mercy.


According to Riot they had people monitoring all player cams at alltime.

@the guy who waited 7hours

Apparently you found the games so interesting that you got out of your way to wait 7hours. Its not like you never watch a SC tournament before.

You are talking nonsense. He had to keep watching in case the games continued, which never happened. Even in that case, he wanted to wait for official statement from Riot, which rightfully should have been a wholeheartedly apology.
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