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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
October 08 2012 19:07 GMT
#12061
The double IP sounds pretty sweet. Now I can unlock runes and compete with the best ^_^
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 08 2012 19:10 GMT
#12062
On October 09 2012 02:06 TheYango wrote:
Riot also vastly overhyped the tournament beyond belief, which raised expectations through the roof. That's why people are so disappointed.

When you make a promo video that's basically shitting on all your competitors with language like "we're raising the bar to where it belongs" and "elevating e-sports", and then produce a tournament that's systematically worse than your competitor's tournament in virtually ALL regards, of course people are going to be disgruntled. Particularly when it's also clear that you tried to one-up their prize pool but also very clearly put significantly less time/money/effort into actually running the tournament.


The problem they have is many of us LIKE the other e-sports. So when the casters bug DJWheat, have you ever seen a crowd this excited? Have you ever seen a tournament like this? This is the best, the best!. It kind of got on my nerves, Oh well I mean I like the fact they are putting money in to the game for season three, looking forward to seeing the season structure.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
KarlKaliente
Profile Joined March 2012
United States434 Posts
October 08 2012 19:27 GMT
#12063
On October 09 2012 02:06 TheYango wrote:
Riot also vastly overhyped the tournament beyond belief, which raised expectations through the roof. That's why people are so disappointed.

When you make a promo video that's basically shitting on all your competitors with language like "we're raising the bar to where it belongs" and "elevating e-sports", and then produce a tournament that's systematically worse than your competitor's tournament in virtually ALL regards, of course people are going to be disgruntled. Particularly when it's also clear that you tried to one-up their prize pool but also very clearly put significantly less time/money/effort into actually running the tournament.


CPL was going to be the best. CGS was going to be the best. Any event, especially if they have some sort of factual claim ($2 mil prize pool is the biggest), is going to hype themselves as much as possible. I agree with you that its unnecessary and causes failure to be even worse, but I somehow doubt leagues and companies are going to be more conservative and stop hyping themselves to the extreme. Its more realistic to look past the hype yourself and set your own expectations.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 08 2012 19:42 GMT
#12064
There's a difference between saying "this is going to be the best event ever" and saying "we're going to show all our competitors how its done"...and proceed to show competitors how it SHOULDN'T be done.
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Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 19:58:24
October 08 2012 19:53 GMT
#12065
On October 09 2012 01:48 KarlKaliente wrote:
It's refreshing to see Riot scrambling to churn out some PR damage control, reward the live audience for their patience, and promising to work on fixes so that it doesn't happen again. Blizzard just laughs and says 'fuck you, you don't matter' whenever there's a disaster at an event.

Support the smaller devs, they work harder for your dollar :>

Since when is Tencent small? It has nearly three times as many employees as Activision-Blizzard. There is nothing small about the company that makes LoL, unless your point of comparison is a company like IBM or Coca Cola...

I will grant that Riot does a better job at customer service than Blizzard, but I think that's related to business strategy, not company size.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 08 2012 21:44 GMT
#12066
On October 09 2012 04:53 Fischbacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 01:48 KarlKaliente wrote:
It's refreshing to see Riot scrambling to churn out some PR damage control, reward the live audience for their patience, and promising to work on fixes so that it doesn't happen again. Blizzard just laughs and says 'fuck you, you don't matter' whenever there's a disaster at an event.

Support the smaller devs, they work harder for your dollar :>

Since when is Tencent small? It has nearly three times as many employees as Activision-Blizzard. There is nothing small about the company that makes LoL, unless your point of comparison is a company like IBM or Coca Cola...

I will grant that Riot does a better job at customer service than Blizzard, but I think that's related to business strategy, not company size.


Having a majority share owned by Tencent doesn't mean Tencent will pour their budget into Riot Games. They only bought Riot to profit off them, not to promote e-sports. But I agree that Riot doesn't have any money problems and that Riot doesn't really fit in the 'indie' genre anymore.
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
October 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#12067
On October 09 2012 04:53 Fischbacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 01:48 KarlKaliente wrote:
It's refreshing to see Riot scrambling to churn out some PR damage control, reward the live audience for their patience, and promising to work on fixes so that it doesn't happen again. Blizzard just laughs and says 'fuck you, you don't matter' whenever there's a disaster at an event.

Support the smaller devs, they work harder for your dollar :>

Since when is Tencent small? It has nearly three times as many employees as Activision-Blizzard. There is nothing small about the company that makes LoL, unless your point of comparison is a company like IBM or Coca Cola...

I will grant that Riot does a better job at customer service than Blizzard, but I think that's related to business strategy, not company size.

At least make the correct comparison. Tencent is to Riot what Vivendi is to Activision-Blizzard - the company holding the majority share. Riot is by no means a "small dev" any more, but Blizzard still is far, far bigger - WoW alone generates as much money per year as Tencent shelled out to acquire Riot.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 08 2012 22:27 GMT
#12068
set for wednesday @5pm pdt

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30026924#30026924

Casters will remain the same for English

maaan

would like it if they took out two certain casters...

AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#12069
5pm pst are you kidding me.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#12070
sucks I'll be at work and miss it v_v had to call in sick so I could watch the cluster fuck this weekend turned out to be already
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 08 2012 22:40 GMT
#12071
On October 09 2012 07:27 kainzero wrote:
set for wednesday @5pm pdt

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30026924#30026924

Show nested quote +
Casters will remain the same for English

maaan

would like it if they took out two certain casters...


That alone tells me Riot isn't committed to being the best. Those 2 are so horrible that they will hurt people's enjoyment of the game. Not to mention casting is such a big part of esports.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 08 2012 22:46 GMT
#12072
On October 09 2012 07:27 kainzero wrote:
set for wednesday @5pm pdt

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30026924#30026924

Show nested quote +
Casters will remain the same for English

maaan

would like it if they took out two certain casters...



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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 22:51:03
October 08 2012 22:50 GMT
#12073
I can't tell if that means they're also trying to cram the semis in after that series or if it hasn't been scheduled yet. Seems like the prior.
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 22:51:45
October 08 2012 22:50 GMT
#12074
On October 09 2012 07:50 Craton wrote:
I can't tell if that means they're also trying to cram the semis in after that series or if it hasn't been scheduled yet.

"Finishing the playoffs" would include the semis, too.

Horrible time for EU, being in the middle of the week additionally to in the middle of the night.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 08 2012 22:51 GMT
#12075
On October 09 2012 07:50 Craton wrote:
I can't tell if that means they're also trying to cram the semis in after that series or if it hasn't been scheduled yet. Seems like the prior.


The conclusion of the playoffs makes that a definite yes. You can't conclude the playoffs without playing the semis.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
October 08 2012 22:52 GMT
#12076
who are the two horrible casters//?
byah!
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 08 2012 22:55 GMT
#12077
Well, if it's the same casters, it should be Deman & Jatt

But I dunno where this is coming from now, Deman is a fucking boss. (Jatt is a little bit boss, but pales besides him)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
October 08 2012 23:00 GMT
#12078
if the casters are going to be the same that means that deman and jatt are going to be doing the first and last series with phreak and riv doing the middle one
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
October 08 2012 23:07 GMT
#12079
For real, I've seen enough of CLG_EU vs WE for a lifetime but I'm (kind of) pissed off that I won't be able to watch the semi live cause they'll be between 4 and 6 AM in the middle of the week ? that suxx...

I hope to wake up with the announce of a M5 vs Azubu Frost finale...
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#12080
It sucks for EU fans, and I realize that this is mostly due to the scene growing so much, but I don't remember NA fans bitching nearly as much during Season 1 Finals. And the times for Season 1 were pretty ridiculous for NA.
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