On October 07 2012 15:52 NeoIllusions wrote: It'd be too harsh to penalize players for this, although you'd hope they have more sportsmanship than to look up at the screen behind them, huehue.
I doubt that glimpse at the screen is ever enough to change the outcome of anything.
TL;DR: Booths solve everything
I thought Korean teams would be more respectful towards Esports than to pull that shit Q_Q
When a single matchup entails thousands of dollars and a better shot towards 1 mil ethics are hard pressed to find in the shadow of temptation.
On October 07 2012 16:01 Parnage wrote: Oh shake, I am sorry but no the Koreans awesome they may be can be just as willing to cheat, seek advantage and otherwise force outcomes that wouldn't happen. Then again re-reading perhaps you are being sarcastic..I don't know.
At least no one rigged the map so that the more popular team would win.
Your first sentence did some weird things to my brain, Parnage! No I wasn't being sarcastic I'm just sad that they would pull that stuff =(. Though I'm more appalled that they have the balls to do that when 500k people are watching them.
So what happened after the internet shutdown in the "third" game? Did they start a regame of the third game? Or was it already decided there to to reschedule the program?
On October 07 2012 16:01 Parnage wrote: Oh shake, I am sorry but no the Koreans awesome they may be can be just as willing to cheat, seek advantage and otherwise force outcomes that wouldn't happen. Then again re-reading perhaps you are being sarcastic..I don't know.
At least no one rigged the map so that the more popular team would win.
Your first sentence did some weird things to my brain, Parnage! No I wasn't being sarcastic I'm just sad that they would pull that stuff =(. Though I'm more appalled that they have the balls to do that when 500k people are watching them.
It's possible that they weren't in the first day of play. Again though, this is the sort of thing where if you notice enough other teams doing it and no ruling made, you've got a tough decision to make. Do you go with the flow or potentially lose your shot at a million when the team you're against does it and you don't?
I'm not convinced that this is something that just one or two teams did. Either we're blowing it out of proportion and nothing happened, or it's very likely something that every team did in some capacity.
On October 07 2012 16:01 Parnage wrote: Oh shake, I am sorry but no the Koreans awesome they may be can be just as willing to cheat, seek advantage and otherwise force outcomes that wouldn't happen. Then again re-reading perhaps you are being sarcastic..I don't know.
At least no one rigged the map so that the more popular team would win.
Your first sentence did some weird things to my brain, Parnage! No I wasn't being sarcastic I'm just sad that they would pull that stuff =(. Though I'm more appalled that they have the balls to do that when 500k people are watching them.
Sorry sir, I tend to wax lyrically(quite poorly might I ad) on subjects I care about. Cheating isn't limited to one team or another and temptation as others have said is quite large when you have huge sums of money on the line and more people are watching the game you are playing then watching you.
The real issue is rather or not it changed any game outcomes, I kinda doubt it did to be honest. No one not even the most fanatical fan when faced with the facts and the games can really say that some guy taking a half second sideways glance at the screen really gives much information. Maybe it did maybe they knew "zomg x is invading" but you have to assume most NA teams are going to try to invade anyway it didn't change one team being beat out in cs or not preforming as well in lane or teamfights. *shrug*
When are game-makers gonna realize that any game worth becoming an e-sport needs LAN support? In fact... why the hell didn't RIOT setup special servers on-site to avoid such a sutpid ending? Yesterday was a great example on how to make fun of esports as any form of meaningful competition.
I'm wondering if it would've been technically feasible to have had 2 loops for the setup. One local tournament server, all the gaming PC's, caster PC's, and then have the stream output PC(s) externalized with only a audio+video output between them. Even if you brought down the internet of the whole world, people at the live event would've still been happy. So long as you have redundancy built in/backups, you can fix local problems, and external ones(power outages maybe?) don't stop you from running the event.
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote: The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)
Are you real ? Did you even watch the video ? He basically said they "played better".
Also the whole fuss about Azubu and WE watching the minimap behind their shoulders is really sad. No character, I'm pretty sure CLG.eu didn't do that.
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote: The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)
Are you real ? Did you even watch the video ? He basically said they "played better".
Also the whole fuss about Azubu and WE watching the minimap behind their shoulders is really sad. No character, I'm pretty sure CLG.eu didn't do that.
The ironic thing is if this was KESPA tournament AF would 100% get Disqualified for this. What they did is BLATANT cheating. That ping: http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/334537601?t=332m38s It's just obvious they looked and he pinged to say where TSM were.