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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
October 07 2012 05:45 GMT
#11621
On October 07 2012 13:57 Kupon3ss wrote:
One has to feel bad for Riot. They've been under some extreme pressure given how well the International 2 went off and I think went too fast trying to "outdo" it in every way. Some more of the prize money definitely should have been put into production expenses and more consulting with companies like OGN and MLG or some Hollywood showmen about how do events without a hitch.

But regardless of what they should have done, it's really just plain bad luck that things worked out this horribly wrong. Really hoping that they'll produce the finals at a much higher level (now that they have more game content and a ton of experience and feedback) and get an event that at least rivals the Internaional 2

Conveniently enough Hollywood showmen failed to provide enough bandwidth for Stewart vs Oreilly on the same exact day.
You just can't prepare for things like that.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
October 07 2012 05:48 GMT
#11622
On October 07 2012 14:43 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 14:41 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
I went to sleep after game one between CLG.eu and WE. Is it true one of the games had no kills for 40 minutes?

Not quite 40 mins but it was def pushing ~30 with absolutely no fights. It was pretty much both killing wards over and over again lol


Oh lol, I would kill myself in anticipation for a fight.
End my suffering
jarek.exe
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland60 Posts
October 07 2012 05:48 GMT
#11623
Are there any VODs?
I fell asleep
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
October 07 2012 05:50 GMT
#11624
On October 07 2012 14:44 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 14:42 Kavas wrote:
TBF Jatt didn't do too bad, although he does mis-speak sometimes. LAN & soundproof booths definitely though. Amazed Riot can't just contact someone in OGN and get them to help?


They never wanted soundproof booth because then the teams are isolated from the crowd. I dont mind that there is no soundproof booths, but was I mind is that they can peak behind their back and see the screen. In addition the Headsets should cancel to 100% outside noises.
If you dont have booth you should eliminate that possibility.

Then it's just dumb; what does it mean "because then the teams are isolated from the crowd"? There's a time for competition and a time for fan-meetings and so and so forth. Should fans be allowed to mob around players then? This is the quarter finals, not one of dozens of group stage and open bracket matches.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
October 07 2012 05:56 GMT
#11625
On October 07 2012 14:43 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 14:41 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
I went to sleep after game one between CLG.eu and WE. Is it true one of the games had no kills for 40 minutes?

Not quite 40 mins but it was def pushing ~30 with absolutely no fights. It was pretty much both killing wards over and over again lol


Yep. There was a point when the crowd was so thirsty for action they literally cheered over a ward kill, at was nearly at that point I realized putting off the other half of my errands was not acceptable.
jarek.exe
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland60 Posts
October 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#11626
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/334689407

That's first part of last game vs CLG and WE, but it ends in ~25 minute of the game.
Is there 2nd part somewhere?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 06:27:17
October 07 2012 06:26 GMT
#11627
On October 07 2012 14:42 Kavas wrote:
TBF Jatt didn't do too bad, although he does mis-speak sometimes. LAN & soundproof booths definitely though. Amazed Riot can't just contact someone in OGN and get them to help?


Don't get me wrong, Djwheat, deman, and jatt are fine. But what I'd like is casters that can really hype you up during the game, and who can do proper analysis of a game after the game ends. Kind of like tasteless and artosis of LoL. If they can't find people who can do both, just make 2 groups, 1 for the game, 1 for the post/pre game

And they NEED soundproof booths. They're still with the audience. It's not like soundproof booths have 4 solid walls. You can still see in/out of them lol....

And LAN. Like wtf. LAN is so fucking important for esports it's not even funny. No lag, no internet issues, nothing. Just straight up playing the game. That's what you need. It eliminates as much outside factors as possible.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 07 2012 06:28 GMT
#11628
On October 07 2012 15:22 jarek.exe wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/334689407

That's first part of last game vs CLG and WE, but it ends in ~25 minute of the game.
Is there 2nd part somewhere?

Probs not, game never finished they're going to have to replay it at a later time.
Also Jatt did fine yeah, I liked the part where he said ryze was really slow at lvl1. Not like pretty much any ryze has 400ms @ lvl1 or anything, nope.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 07 2012 06:29 GMT
#11629
On October 07 2012 14:44 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 14:42 Kavas wrote:
TBF Jatt didn't do too bad, although he does mis-speak sometimes. LAN & soundproof booths definitely though. Amazed Riot can't just contact someone in OGN and get them to help?


They never wanted soundproof booth because then the teams are isolated from the crowd. I dont mind that there is no soundproof booths, but was I mind is that they can peak behind their back and see the screen. In addition the Headsets should cancel to 100% outside noises.
If you dont have booth you should eliminate that possibility.

I don't know how you prioritize "interaction" in this case over balanced competition in this case, when there's a million dollars on the line.

You think the crowd chanting "CLG" or "TSM" doesn't get into the other teams' head and affect their mental state? For all the talk a few days ago about providing a fair chance to lesser known/less popular team, this is one thing that clearly helps popular teams and hurts unpopular ones.
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jarek.exe
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland60 Posts
October 07 2012 06:32 GMT
#11630
Hm? 3rd game did not finish? Same problem? Internet issues?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
October 07 2012 06:32 GMT
#11631
On October 07 2012 15:32 jarek.exe wrote:
Hm? 3rd game did not finish? Same problem? Internet issues?

Indeed. Regame is under "secure internet conditions"
boomer hands
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
October 07 2012 06:33 GMT
#11632
Feel pretty bad fro Riot, I mean they make a free game, a free tournament with great price pool and a quality stream with the best teams in the world and this happens. Anyway hope this whole mess can be solved somehow without major problems...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 07 2012 06:37 GMT
#11633
On October 07 2012 15:33 fishinguy wrote:
Feel pretty bad fro Riot, I mean they make a free game, a free tournament with great price pool and a quality stream with the best teams in the world and this happens. Anyway hope this whole mess can be solved somehow without major problems...

Unfortunately, World Championships are also trailing on the heels of TI2. As much as we might not like it, the comparison is inevitable.

As Dustin Beck might say, Valve has "raised the bar to where it belongs".
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 07 2012 06:39 GMT
#11634
Does valve steam DotA2 in HD as well? Just wondering, I don't really watch it.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 07 2012 06:42 GMT
#11635
Honestly, this is just out of riot's reach. They couldn't foresee the internet problems, atleast they made the right decision to postpone instead of trying to play with a shitty connection. Ofcourse Lan would be the best, but Riot isn't the only who needs to fix their game up with a LAN function lolol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 07 2012 06:43 GMT
#11636
On October 07 2012 15:39 BlackPaladin wrote:
Does valve steam DotA2 in HD as well? Just wondering, I don't really watch it.


They also had in client broadcasts, with tons of people watching, and in client broadcasts take fractions the bandwidth livestreaming does. That eases a lot of the load because for every one person watching at 720p you could probably have 10+ people watching in client without issues/
Porouscloud - NA LoL
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
October 07 2012 06:44 GMT
#11637
The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)
Barackopala
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 07 2012 06:46 GMT
#11638
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote:
The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)


Mobs r dum
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 07 2012 06:47 GMT
#11639
But seriously, wtb booths Riot. Sun and all is nice... but we (players and live fans alike) would benefit more from a hall like TI2. ;;
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 07 2012 06:49 GMT
#11640
it's not that bad for Riot

if everything ends well, people will care a lot less about the regames and Internet connectivity issues
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
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