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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 06:51:12
October 07 2012 06:50 GMT
#11641
On October 07 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote:
The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)


Mobs r dum

Still i have to admit the players attitude in the pics look quite suspicious to say the least

Pics:
http://i.imgur.com/gtrjm.jpg - WE vs CLG.eu (last match before the shutdown i beleive (?))

http://i.imgur.com/CEKv2.jpg - Frost vs TSM (2nd match during the pause)

I must admit the stage looked quite silly, the way the screens were orientated made easier for players to look at their side and take a little sight on what happened
Barackopala
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 07 2012 06:52 GMT
#11642
It'd be too harsh to penalize players for this, although you'd hope they have more sportsmanship than to look up at the screen behind them, huehue.

I doubt that glimpse at the screen is ever enough to change the outcome of anything.

TL;DR: Booths solve everything
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 06:52:21
October 07 2012 06:52 GMT
#11643
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 07 2012 06:54 GMT
#11644
You pretty much can't penalize for something that a) is enabled by Riot's setup, and b) is not listed as being penalize-able in the rules. For all we know, every team may have been doing this in some capacity since day 1 (I expect this was the case). Penalizing one team without any prior ruling is unfair to that team.
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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 07:01:30
October 07 2012 06:55 GMT
#11645
On October 07 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote:
The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)


Mobs r dum


its pretty big deal to see where the enemy team is during an invade

riot is dum for stage design

edit- also lol at "good joke TSM" comment. did you watch the rest of the video to see what chaox said about the games? you imply like he's saying that azubu won because they looked at the screen
hihihi
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 06:56:47
October 07 2012 06:55 GMT
#11646
On October 07 2012 15:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
It'd be too harsh to penalize players for this, although you'd hope they have more sportsmanship than to look up at the screen behind them, huehue.

I doubt that glimpse at the screen is ever enough to change the outcome of anything.

TL;DR: Booths solve everything

There's no denial on the booths part, but on the azubu match, it was quite important for frost to know on the first minutes of the fight, as chaox stated, their "move" was to take a early lead (that statement made me giggle a bit too much but hey, it was their plan), the one from WE vs CLG.eu was a bit more obvious, definately they need booths, it was amazingly stupid how casters kept motivating people to "chant louder so players could hear you through our soundproof headphones HUEHUE"...






On October 07 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote:
You pretty much can't penalize for something that a) is enabled by Riot's setup, and b) is not listed as being penalize-able in the rules. For all we know, every team may have been doing this in some capacity since day 1 (I expect this was the case). Penalizing one team without any prior ruling is unfair to that team.

You kind of expect players to not play dirty, and you know when you play dirty, sniping (ghosting) is really bad seen in the sc2 community, i don't see why wouldn't this be the case.
Barackopala
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 07 2012 06:56 GMT
#11647
On October 07 2012 15:55 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote:
The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)


Mobs r dum


its pretty big deal to see where the enemy team is during an invade

riot is dum for stage design

Doesn't the big screen have a 3minute delay, pretty hard to see where teh enemy team is while invading. Also 1 peek at the big screen and taric just dazzled you.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
October 07 2012 06:57 GMT
#11648
On October 07 2012 15:56 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 15:55 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 07 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 07 2012 15:44 WilDMousE wrote:
The saddest point of it is that all this thing has gotten a lot of people to pitchfork about everything, now there's a witch-hunt to azubu frost for "peeking" at the main screen during the game 2 pause, (wich acording to chaox in this video) caused TSM to lose (Good joke TSM, you sure had it...)


Mobs r dum


its pretty big deal to see where the enemy team is during an invade

riot is dum for stage design

Doesn't the big screen have a 3minute delay, pretty hard to see where teh enemy team is while invading. Also 1 peek at the big screen and taric just dazzled you.

Nope, it wasn't a 3 min delay, else we would've known most game ended prior to that just by looking at players expresions :x
Barackopala
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
October 07 2012 06:58 GMT
#11649
The screens are 3 min delay anyway, aren't they?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 07 2012 06:58 GMT
#11650
On October 07 2012 15:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
It'd be too harsh to penalize players for this, although you'd hope they have more sportsmanship than to look up at the screen behind them, huehue.

I doubt that glimpse at the screen is ever enough to change the outcome of anything.

TL;DR: Booths solve everything

I thought Korean teams would be more respectful towards Esports than to pull that shit Q_Q
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
October 07 2012 07:01 GMT
#11651
so was this like legit corporate espionage or are dota fans really that mad?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 07 2012 07:01 GMT
#11652
Oh shake, I am sorry but no the Koreans awesome they may be can be just as willing to cheat, seek advantage and otherwise force outcomes that wouldn't happen. Then again re-reading perhaps you are being sarcastic..I don't know.

At least no one rigged the map so that the more popular team would win.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 07:06:10
October 07 2012 07:04 GMT
#11653
no, it was live, the players could take a peek by looking to the side and also be alarmed when the crowd was loud.

But you cant tell if someone is intentionally looking at the minimap or of he is just looking in the general direction, its in plain view. Its like my little brother playing cards with me and holding them in a way that if i want to look at my beer, i see them.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 07 2012 07:05 GMT
#11654
On October 07 2012 16:01 Parnage wrote:
Oh shake, I am sorry but no the Koreans awesome they may be can be just as willing to cheat, seek advantage and otherwise force outcomes that wouldn't happen. Then again re-reading perhaps you are being sarcastic..I don't know.

At least no one rigged the map so that the more popular team would win.


I dunno, those coins seemed pretty rigged against Clg.na
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
October 07 2012 07:07 GMT
#11655
So, I'm back home after a long night of casting !
I hoped everybody here who watched the French stream enjoyed it, and that you heard my shoutout to TL I would really love if anybody could provide feedback on my casting, it was on of the first times I had the occasion to cast live LoL games, and that was a pretty big first time >>

I was the guy with the «REPENT AND SIN NO MORE» T-shirt, in case you wonder ^_^
The legend of Darien lives on
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 07 2012 07:08 GMT
#11656
CLG.eu was blue team that game. If WE didn't look at the minimap it would have been an unfair advantage for CLG!! :O
We wouldn't want that, right?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 07 2012 07:10 GMT
#11657
On October 07 2012 16:07 mr_tolkien wrote:
So, I'm back home after a long night of casting !
I hoped everybody here who watched the French stream enjoyed it, and that you heard my shoutout to TL I would really love if anybody could provide feedback on my casting, it was on of the first times I had the occasion to cast live LoL games, and that was a pretty big first time >>

I was the guy with the «REPENT AND SIN NO MORE» T-shirt, in case you wonder ^_^


Sadly I don't speak French but I did tune in and I did enjoy it. You guys did amazing keeping us entertained during all the downtime. Much better then any of the other casters from what I saw and I didn't even understand most of it. So in that department you and everyone else did fantastic.

I do wish I could comment more on the actual casting but alas a language barrier prevents me from such.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 07 2012 07:11 GMT
#11658
On October 07 2012 16:08 BlackPaladin wrote:
CLG.eu was blue team that game. If WE didn't look at the minimap it would have been an unfair advantage for CLG!! :O
We wouldn't want that, right?


maybe clg.eu learned all the strategies for pruple so that clg as a whole is complete.



i can only understand very little french since i had latin in school instead, so cant comment on that too much, but it sure looked fun.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 07 2012 07:22 GMT
#11659
It was 5AM for me when the re-game between CLG.eu vs WE finished. So I went to sleep. Could you guys please summarize what happen after that for me? I've read the last few pages of this thread and I am confusing. Is this because of the internet or something the player did that force Riot to postpone the game?
Terran
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 07 2012 07:23 GMT
#11660
On October 07 2012 16:22 Caphe wrote:
It was 5AM for me when the re-game between CLG.eu vs WE finished. So I went to sleep. Could you guys please summarize what happen after that for me? I've read the last few pages of this thread and I am confusing. Is this because of the internet or something the player did that force Riot to postpone the game?

More DCs, more re-games, game 3 still yet to actually be conclusively finished.

Basically you didn't miss anything worth watching.
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