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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
August 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#1701
On August 27 2012 09:31 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:26 Gorsameth wrote:
There is not a single piece of proof there was a case of money splitting. No statement from Curse/Dignitas or MLG mentions it.
MLG stated "manipulate Rankings or Brackets" Which isnt splitting money. Its the ARAM screwing with the #1/2 spots aka there Ranking!.


The money splitting is still irrelevant. MLG's conduct code which every team should have been aware of was broken, thus MLG was right in their decision.


Im not saying MLG wasnt well with there right to DQ. I was talking about people talking about money splitting which is still unproven.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
August 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#1702
What exactly happened between the teams?
aka SethN
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#1703
On August 27 2012 09:33 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:31 Wingblade wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:26 Gorsameth wrote:
There is not a single piece of proof there was a case of money splitting. No statement from Curse/Dignitas or MLG mentions it.
MLG stated "manipulate Rankings or Brackets" Which isnt splitting money. Its the ARAM screwing with the #1/2 spots aka there Ranking!.


The money splitting is still irrelevant. MLG's conduct code which every team should have been aware of was broken, thus MLG was right in their decision.


Im not saying MLG wasnt well with there right to DQ. I was talking about people talking about money splitting which is still unproven.


According to Adam, everyone in the room heard them talking about it.
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Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#1704
HATERS? Where did you all go?
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#1705
Wasn't it Dignitas that needed to win?

They lost didn't they?
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#1706
On August 27 2012 09:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't understand how anybody is defending crs/dig here or questioning MLG's actions. It blows my mind.

I'm not a fan of the first game. but I what I don't understand is MLG's explanation for their decision. Neither team forfeited a game, and it's clear from the Curse victory that Dignitas winning game one had nothing to do with a conspiracy to move them up in the rankings. The real reasoning is that the teams were unprofessional and made the competition look like a farce (at least for one game), This is a valid reason, but what I don't like is MLG being dishonest and pretending that Curse and Dignitas violated an explicit rule. That makes this organization look 100 times more unprofessional thatn either Curse or Dignitas in my opinion.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#1707
On August 27 2012 09:29 Jaegeru wrote:
Christ I feel sorry for Dignitas, Odee seems really mad from what I've read on twitter.


As he should. I thought Scarra would have the professional sense to consult with Odee and Riot beforing pulling something like that..
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#1708
Except that you're wrooooooooooooong.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#1709
On August 27 2012 09:33 TylerThaCreator wrote:
What exactly happened between the teams?


Apparently, Dig/Curse talked about it in a public crowded setting so the whole venue knew about it. So we'll see the proof sometime soon, but the results still stand.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:36:22
August 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#1710
On August 27 2012 09:34 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't understand how anybody is defending crs/dig here or questioning MLG's actions. It blows my mind.

I'm not a fan of the first game. but I what I don't understand is MLG's explanation for their decision. Neither team forfeited a game, and it's clear from the Curse victory that Dignitas winning game one had nothing to do with a conspiracy to move them up in the rankings. The real reasoning is that the teams were unprofessional and made the competition look like a farce (at least for one game), This is a valid reason, but what I don't like is MLG being dishonest and pretending that Curse and Dignitas violated an explicit rule. That makes this organization look 100 times more unprofessional thatn either Curse or Dignitas in my opinion.


They heard the teams talking about splitting the money/fixing.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 27 2012 00:36 GMT
#1711
On August 27 2012 09:33 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:31 Wingblade wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:26 Gorsameth wrote:
There is not a single piece of proof there was a case of money splitting. No statement from Curse/Dignitas or MLG mentions it.
MLG stated "manipulate Rankings or Brackets" Which isnt splitting money. Its the ARAM screwing with the #1/2 spots aka there Ranking!.


The money splitting is still irrelevant. MLG's conduct code which every team should have been aware of was broken, thus MLG was right in their decision.


Im not saying MLG wasnt well with there right to DQ. I was talking about people talking about money splitting which is still unproven.


Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#1712
Inb4 it's something along the lines of:

"Yo, let's take our prize money and go drink!"

"Yeah we'll split the costs!"

zzzzzz
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#1713
On August 27 2012 09:33 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:31 Wingblade wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:26 Gorsameth wrote:
There is not a single piece of proof there was a case of money splitting. No statement from Curse/Dignitas or MLG mentions it.
MLG stated "manipulate Rankings or Brackets" Which isnt splitting money. Its the ARAM screwing with the #1/2 spots aka there Ranking!.


The money splitting is still irrelevant. MLG's conduct code which every team should have been aware of was broken, thus MLG was right in their decision.


Im not saying MLG wasnt well with there right to DQ. I was talking about people talking about money splitting which is still unproven.


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Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:39:56
August 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#1714
IF, Note IF, they actualy decided to split winning then yes there stupid and probably deserve this and maybe more but ill wait for something to do come Curse/Dig about this before being totaly convinced.

Fear you realise there is a difference between wanting to see evidence and baselessly accusing teams of splitting winning right? oh wait no you have already shown you dont.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#1715
On August 27 2012 09:35 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:34 Slow Motion wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't understand how anybody is defending crs/dig here or questioning MLG's actions. It blows my mind.

I'm not a fan of the first game. but I what I don't understand is MLG's explanation for their decision. Neither team forfeited a game, and it's clear from the Curse victory that Dignitas winning game one had nothing to do with a conspiracy to move them up in the rankings. The real reasoning is that the teams were unprofessional and made the competition look like a farce (at least for one game), This is a valid reason, but what I don't like is MLG being dishonest and pretending that Curse and Dignitas violated an explicit rule. That makes this organization look 100 times more unprofessional thatn either Curse or Dignitas in my opinion.


They heard the teams talking about splitting the money.

If they did then what they is is definitely fair, but I haven't found any MLG statements that say that is the reason. I wouldn't be surprised if the two teams did do it but I also would like to see some proof or even an actual accusation of money splitting. Maybe I just missed it though so if you could link me to where they talk about money splitting I'd like to read it.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:39:25
August 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#1716
Like, my only real skepticism is I can't imagine someone like Scarra saying "Yeah bro, let's go do this." He always seemed like a more level headed dude who knew that this stuff wasn't right. o_O

@above: https://twitter.com/MrMLGAdam/status/239882897107075073
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:39:34
August 27 2012 00:39 GMT
#1717
On August 27 2012 09:34 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't understand how anybody is defending crs/dig here or questioning MLG's actions. It blows my mind.

I'm not a fan of the first game. but I what I don't understand is MLG's explanation for their decision. Neither team forfeited a game, and it's clear from the Curse victory that Dignitas winning game one had nothing to do with a conspiracy to move them up in the rankings. The real reasoning is that the teams were unprofessional and made the competition look like a farce (at least for one game), This is a valid reason, but what I don't like is MLG being dishonest and pretending that Curse and Dignitas violated an explicit rule. That makes this organization look 100 times more unprofessional thatn either Curse or Dignitas in my opinion.


Aside from the fact that there seems to be apparent proof that they had colluded on who was going to win, I wouldn't have been shocked if they were going to be punished for the ARAM. I think the only reason it isn't being used as the reason is because they only did it once (probably forced to play serious after the 1) and they have the more obvious reason of the collusion.

Using ARAM to me is definitive proof of not playing to win, ergo playing essentially to lose, ergo bracket manipulation. It is better for MLG, in a way, that they have proof/evidence/whatever that there was further collusion going on because justifying punishment for ARAM is certainly harder to do.

edit: wordchoice
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mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
August 27 2012 00:39 GMT
#1718
On August 27 2012 09:30 SoraLimit wrote:
Why is everyone saying it's due to the ARAM game? If that was the case, I'm pretty sure the officials would have stopped it waayy before the game started, and had a proper game.


How in the fuck would "the officials" know about this "wayy" before the game started? Did you watch the cast and see how awkward the commentators were?

Do you think that Dignitas went up to the admins "wayy" before the game and said "Hey, we've agreed to not play a real competitive game for your finals. We're going to BS around instead. Sound good?"

More importantly why in god's name would you think that the last 4 games of the tournament were elaborate "mock games" intending curse to win, and the ARAM was not the issue? Have you heard of Occam's razor? Use it.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
August 27 2012 00:39 GMT
#1719
Good job.
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:41:55
August 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#1720
On August 27 2012 09:38 Gorsameth wrote:
IF, Note IF, they actualy decided to split winning then yes there stupid and probably deserve this and maybe more but ill wait for something to do come Curse/Dig about this before being totaly convinced.


Honestly I won't be surprised if both teams are suspended from all MLG events next year (using SSBB drama as precedent here). If that happens, Odee might even consider disbanding the team since he doesn't deal with bullshit like that and holds his players to a pretty high professional standard. curse will probably be fine since hubert is chill.
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