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On August 27 2012 09:21 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:18 Nabes wrote:On August 27 2012 09:17 Celestial wrote:I'm not entirely surprised by this result, honestly the whole thing was not needed at all. Curse nor Dignitas didn't even need to reveal anything for PAX, they could've played champions they played the whole tournament already and not showed a single new thing. This is the result of doing something inappropriate during a finals when Riot is trying to improve their image of a professional competitive scene and MLG being quick on the uptake. I dont even think aram was the big deal, it was settled before the finals that dig and crs would split the money And half the people here were telling me I'm a retarded conspiracy theorist when it's clear as hell they were gonna split the money. "We have determined that there was collusion between the two final teams" Agreeing to play ARAM is not collusion, otherwise any kind of talk between any teams would also be considered collusion.
I would say agreeing to play ARAM is both of them colluding to lose. Both teams are agreeing to not try at all, thus manipulating the bracket.
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On August 27 2012 09:23 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:19 Feartheguru wrote:
Don't worry, these guys are so rich they don't care about a little money lost anyways. Considering there going to get atleast 15k next week i dont think either of em are bothered about this
i was under the assumption crs and/or dig needed the circuit points? those are getting revoked from riot too, not just the prize money.
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There is not a single piece of proof there was a case of money splitting. No statement from Curse/Dignitas or MLG mentions it.
MLG stated "manipulate Rankings or Brackets" Which isnt splitting money. Its the ARAM screwing with the #1/2 spots aka there Ranking!.
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On August 27 2012 09:26 Nabes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:23 Gorsameth wrote:On August 27 2012 09:19 Feartheguru wrote:
Don't worry, these guys are so rich they don't care about a little money lost anyways. Considering there going to get atleast 15k next week i dont think either of em are bothered about this i was under the assumption crs and/or dig needed the circuit points? those are getting revoked from riot too, not just the prize money.
They dont. Both teams are assured there spots.
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No proof of money splitting. Neither team forfeited game one, Dignitas was playing just as loose as Curse was. And if Curse and Dignitas conspired to fix the brackets by giving Dignitas a free win they sure fucked up hard.
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On August 27 2012 09:25 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:21 Feartheguru wrote:On August 27 2012 09:18 Nabes wrote:On August 27 2012 09:17 Celestial wrote:I'm not entirely surprised by this result, honestly the whole thing was not needed at all. Curse nor Dignitas didn't even need to reveal anything for PAX, they could've played champions they played the whole tournament already and not showed a single new thing. This is the result of doing something inappropriate during a finals when Riot is trying to improve their image of a professional competitive scene and MLG being quick on the uptake. I dont even think aram was the big deal, it was settled before the finals that dig and crs would split the money And half the people here were telling me I'm a retarded conspiracy theorist when it's clear as hell they were gonna split the money. "We have determined that there was collusion between the two final teams" Agreeing to play ARAM is not collusion, otherwise any kind of talk between any teams would also be considered collusion. How is agreeing to play a certain way in a match with your opponent NOT collusion?
So if team A tells team B if you take champ C we'll take champ D, teams B says ok, they picked champs C and D respectively, mlg has the right to take their prize money away?
That's the same extent of collusion.
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I must've missed the fun tonight, what did they do to be disqualified? Something about an ARAM? wat
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Christ I feel sorry for Dignitas, Odee seems really mad from what I've read on twitter.
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Basically the two teams tried to have fun.
And proceeded to get disqualified.
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On August 27 2012 04:02 Aurdon wrote:
If I was MLG, I would be pissed.
Making competitive gaming look like a big joke.
Good prediction
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GG haters, my work here is done.
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Why is everyone saying it's due to the ARAM game? If that was the case, I'm pretty sure the officials would have stopped it waayy before the game started, and had a proper game.
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I don't understand how anybody is defending crs/dig here or questioning MLG's actions. It blows my mind.
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On August 27 2012 09:28 Slow Motion wrote:
No proof of money splitting. Neither team forfeited game one, Dignitas was playing just as loose as Curse was. And if Curse and Dignitas conspired to fix the brackets by giving Dignitas a free win they sure fucked up hard.
according to MLG adam there was proof of collusion
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On August 27 2012 09:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Basically the two teams tried to have fun.
And proceeded to get disqualified.
Improper time and place with a bunch of other things involved are not the kind of fun Riot or MLG want to promote, unfortunately for Curse/Dig.
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On August 27 2012 09:26 Gorsameth wrote:
There is not a single piece of proof there was a case of money splitting. No statement from Curse/Dignitas or MLG mentions it.
MLG stated "manipulate Rankings or Brackets" Which isnt splitting money. Its the ARAM screwing with the #1/2 spots aka there Ranking!.
The money splitting is still irrelevant. MLG's conduct code which every team should have been aware of was broken, thus MLG was right in their decision.
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On August 27 2012 09:30 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:28 Slow Motion wrote:
No proof of money splitting. Neither team forfeited game one, Dignitas was playing just as loose as Curse was. And if Curse and Dignitas conspired to fix the brackets by giving Dignitas a free win they sure fucked up hard. according to MLG adam there was proof of collusion https://twitter.com/MrMLGAdam/status/239878409382133760
Never felt so good to prove a bunch of idiots wrong. Even after they announced taking the prizemoney away people were still arguing that they did it all cause of the ARAM. I expected more from you TL.
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The money splitting doesn't matter anyways. MLG has a code of conduct for its players. The two teams broke the code of conduct. Riot agreed with MLG's decision. End of story.
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