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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 27 2011 14:38 GMT
#61
On August 27 2011 23:36 Cel.erity wrote:
So does Curse have any chance at not 0-3ing this tournament? I don't recognize a few of their players, and it seems like a team that was kind of thrown together on the fly. Has anyone else seen them play together?


Crs is former unR. They aren't put together on the fly. They're around the skill level of Rock Solid but they're more known because they're sponsored.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 27 2011 14:38 GMT
#62
On August 27 2011 23:35 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:28 DoXa wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:24 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:18 JBright wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:14 NoobieOne wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:13 Aurdon wrote:
Jester hat. Seems gimmicky.

How do you require all you casters to wear dress shirt and sport coat and then just say fuck it and let him wear a jester hat?



cause its awesome?

On August 27 2011 23:14 RoieTRS wrote:
My god I'm sick of casters treating their audience like 4 year olds. There isn't a single sc2 caster that doesn't.


I agree 100%, I am not that good at LoL (not even level 30 yet and only about 15 or so games over 50%) and I am sick of the way that they are talking. They treat the audience like they never play. I am sure 99% of the people who would watch this would have played LoL or another MOBA where the mechanics are all the same.


The point of these are for the live audience who may not play the game....and didn't people complain about casters leaving out info during IEM?


I am a player. I play the game. I'm sick of stuff like companies making games for the low level masses, I'm sick of commentary aimed at low level masses, and I'm sick of things like MLG creating the most bullshit tournament format so they can have Idra vs Bomber day 1.

I've been competing in video games for over 5 years and this whole "esports" industry is becoming less and less watchable with every year.


Yeah, let's make tournaments only for elitist gamers who think it's not ok to let average people watch and play a game. I hate to say it, but this is ruining esports


If that is truly the case, then fuck esports. Everything is ruined by money. Whatever happened to casting for the love of the game rather than trying to appease the most amount of people?


OH NOES in downtime where there's nothing happening they're introducing the game concepts!

There's downtime, they wanted to fill it with something. I'd rather they talk about stuff that most (keyword being MOST) people know about, than just have a shot of the crowd sat around like the SC2 streams.

What else are they meant to talk about? With nothing happened yet, there's not that much else.


I guess they could appease the masses by starting the game on time instead of over 30 minutes late.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#63
Disappointed that the stream doesn't have a viewer counter. Interested to see what the numbers are off of own3d.
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#64
On August 27 2011 23:36 Cel.erity wrote:
So does Curse have any chance at not 0-3ing this tournament? I don't recognize a few of their players, and it seems like a team that was kind of thrown together on the fly. Has anyone else seen them play together?


Curse has pobelter, doublelift, sydtko, nyjacky, lapaaka, and a huge lineup of high elo players. Just look through the first 2 pages of top solo queue elo, there's a lot of curse players.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 27 2011 14:42 GMT
#65
On August 27 2011 23:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Disappointed that the stream doesn't have a viewer counter. Interested to see what the numbers are off of own3d.

Riot will likely release figures after asking MLG for the numbers. Good results will finally keep the LoL haters quiet I think. I think the timing is also pretty good for both NA and EU viewers.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 27 2011 14:44 GMT
#66
EST is definitely the best time zone for NA and EU. Unlike IEM, I'm not having to wake up at 2 AM just to watch the first game.
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 27 2011 14:44 GMT
#67
On August 27 2011 23:30 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:28 DoXa wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:24 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:18 JBright wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:14 NoobieOne wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:13 Aurdon wrote:
Jester hat. Seems gimmicky.

How do you require all you casters to wear dress shirt and sport coat and then just say fuck it and let him wear a jester hat?



cause its awesome?

On August 27 2011 23:14 RoieTRS wrote:
My god I'm sick of casters treating their audience like 4 year olds. There isn't a single sc2 caster that doesn't.


I agree 100%, I am not that good at LoL (not even level 30 yet and only about 15 or so games over 50%) and I am sick of the way that they are talking. They treat the audience like they never play. I am sure 99% of the people who would watch this would have played LoL or another MOBA where the mechanics are all the same.


The point of these are for the live audience who may not play the game....and didn't people complain about casters leaving out info during IEM?


I am a player. I play the game. I'm sick of stuff like companies making games for the low level masses, I'm sick of commentary aimed at low level masses, and I'm sick of things like MLG creating the most bullshit tournament format so they can have Idra vs Bomber day 1.

I've been competing in video games for over 5 years and this whole "esports" industry is becoming less and less watchable with every year.


Yeah, let's make tournaments only for elitist gamers who think it's not ok to let average people watch and play a game. I hate to say it, but this is ruining esports


If that is truly the case, then fuck esports. Everything is ruined by money. Whatever happened to casting for the love of the game rather than trying to appease the most amount of people?


If you watch any major sporting event on TV they do exactly the same thing. They hype the stars more than they deserve, they cover basic (very basic) game strategy and commonly get it wrong.
Heck, they many time get commentators who know next to nothing about the game just for their personality.

This is just the way sports work. It isn't changing anytime soon. There is power in numbers so catering to the small percentage is, indirectly, bad for the game. That is because it is much harder to generate the numbers required to attract the sponsors who make games happen.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 27 2011 14:46 GMT
#68
I don't see any mention of MLG on any headlines on any websites, clg just has MLG on their sidebar and when it comes live, solomid just has 2 articles on it, and riot has nothing about it on their mainpage

doubt this will get many viewers =/

than again this MLG is smaller than previous ones by the looks of it.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 27 2011 14:47 GMT
#69
On August 27 2011 23:44 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:28 DoXa wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:24 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:18 JBright wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:14 NoobieOne wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:13 Aurdon wrote:
Jester hat. Seems gimmicky.

How do you require all you casters to wear dress shirt and sport coat and then just say fuck it and let him wear a jester hat?



cause its awesome?

On August 27 2011 23:14 RoieTRS wrote:
My god I'm sick of casters treating their audience like 4 year olds. There isn't a single sc2 caster that doesn't.


I agree 100%, I am not that good at LoL (not even level 30 yet and only about 15 or so games over 50%) and I am sick of the way that they are talking. They treat the audience like they never play. I am sure 99% of the people who would watch this would have played LoL or another MOBA where the mechanics are all the same.


The point of these are for the live audience who may not play the game....and didn't people complain about casters leaving out info during IEM?


I am a player. I play the game. I'm sick of stuff like companies making games for the low level masses, I'm sick of commentary aimed at low level masses, and I'm sick of things like MLG creating the most bullshit tournament format so they can have Idra vs Bomber day 1.

I've been competing in video games for over 5 years and this whole "esports" industry is becoming less and less watchable with every year.


Yeah, let's make tournaments only for elitist gamers who think it's not ok to let average people watch and play a game. I hate to say it, but this is ruining esports


If that is truly the case, then fuck esports. Everything is ruined by money. Whatever happened to casting for the love of the game rather than trying to appease the most amount of people?


If you watch any major sporting event on TV they do exactly the same thing. They hype the stars more than they deserve, they cover basic (very basic) game strategy and commonly get it wrong.
Heck, they many time get commentators who know next to nothing about the game just for their personality.

This is just the way sports work. It isn't changing anytime soon. There is power in numbers so catering to the small percentage is, indirectly, bad for the game. That is because it is much harder to generate the numbers required to attract the sponsors who make games happen.


Real sports have made their bad precedents. This is a new generation and a new industry, and is a new chance to change things. Saying "that is just how these things work" is poisonous thinking.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 14:50:04
August 27 2011 14:49 GMT
#70
On August 27 2011 23:46 taLbuk wrote:
I don't see any mention of MLG on any headlines on any websites, clg just has MLG on their sidebar and when it comes live, solomid just has 2 articles on it, and riot has nothing about it on their mainpage

doubt this will get many viewers =/

than again this MLG is smaller than previous ones by the looks of it.



It is interesting that when you log into LoL that there isn't a giant banner highlighting this event with a link to the stream like the other big competitions.

Maybe they will add it later, but yeah that will hurt the viewership.


Yeah, they got a little banner in the rest of the news, but it is not that prominent and if I wasn't looking for it, I would not have noticed it with all the other clutter on the intro page.
soulpoetry
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom177 Posts
August 27 2011 14:50 GMT
#71
picks and bans starting!
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
August 27 2011 14:50 GMT
#72
It looks like we won't be able to see the bans and picks?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#73
uh, pretty sure Pobelt leaving isn't because of runes...

wai u lie to us MLG
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NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
August 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#74
On August 27 2011 23:50 hasuprotoss wrote:
It looks like we won't be able to see the bans and picks?


It was in blind pick for some reason.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#75
Running on Skarner patch. :O
Healers still OP.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#76
On August 27 2011 23:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:36 Cel.erity wrote:
So does Curse have any chance at not 0-3ing this tournament? I don't recognize a few of their players, and it seems like a team that was kind of thrown together on the fly. Has anyone else seen them play together?

Crs is the former uNR. Pobelter, Sydtko, Lapaka, etc with a recent acquisition of Doublelift.


Ah, I know who uNR is, but I didn't see doublelift on the roster. Pobelter and Lapaka are the only names I recognize.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#77
On August 27 2011 23:47 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:44 petered wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:28 DoXa wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:24 RoieTRS wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:18 JBright wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:14 NoobieOne wrote:
On August 27 2011 23:13 Aurdon wrote:
Jester hat. Seems gimmicky.

How do you require all you casters to wear dress shirt and sport coat and then just say fuck it and let him wear a jester hat?



cause its awesome?

On August 27 2011 23:14 RoieTRS wrote:
My god I'm sick of casters treating their audience like 4 year olds. There isn't a single sc2 caster that doesn't.


I agree 100%, I am not that good at LoL (not even level 30 yet and only about 15 or so games over 50%) and I am sick of the way that they are talking. They treat the audience like they never play. I am sure 99% of the people who would watch this would have played LoL or another MOBA where the mechanics are all the same.


The point of these are for the live audience who may not play the game....and didn't people complain about casters leaving out info during IEM?


I am a player. I play the game. I'm sick of stuff like companies making games for the low level masses, I'm sick of commentary aimed at low level masses, and I'm sick of things like MLG creating the most bullshit tournament format so they can have Idra vs Bomber day 1.

I've been competing in video games for over 5 years and this whole "esports" industry is becoming less and less watchable with every year.


Yeah, let's make tournaments only for elitist gamers who think it's not ok to let average people watch and play a game. I hate to say it, but this is ruining esports


If that is truly the case, then fuck esports. Everything is ruined by money. Whatever happened to casting for the love of the game rather than trying to appease the most amount of people?


If you watch any major sporting event on TV they do exactly the same thing. They hype the stars more than they deserve, they cover basic (very basic) game strategy and commonly get it wrong.
Heck, they many time get commentators who know next to nothing about the game just for their personality.

This is just the way sports work. It isn't changing anytime soon. There is power in numbers so catering to the small percentage is, indirectly, bad for the game. That is because it is much harder to generate the numbers required to attract the sponsors who make games happen.


Real sports have made their bad precedents. This is a new generation and a new industry, and is a new chance to change things. Saying "that is just how these things work" is poisonous thinking.


The great thing about the internet is you can start you own brand of casting on youtube, cast for some smaller tournaments, and then make your way up the ladder. Since you seem to know a better way of doing it, I think you would probably quickly make a name for yourself and become a big star and educate everyone on how true casting could be done.

You could be the next Husky casting next to Day9 on the big stage. Fight the good fight.
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 14:53:03
August 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#78
Why are they doing blind pick? :/

EDIT: Or am i missing something?
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
August 27 2011 14:53 GMT
#79
Still in blind pick. Let's just guess assume that Ori and Nid were banned.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 27 2011 14:53 GMT
#80
On August 27 2011 23:49 Aurdon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:46 taLbuk wrote:
I don't see any mention of MLG on any headlines on any websites, clg just has MLG on their sidebar and when it comes live, solomid just has 2 articles on it, and riot has nothing about it on their mainpage

doubt this will get many viewers =/

than again this MLG is smaller than previous ones by the looks of it.



It is interesting that when you log into LoL that there isn't a giant banner highlighting this event with a link to the stream like the other big competitions.

Maybe they will add it later, but yeah that will hurt the viewership.


Yeah, they got a little banner in the rest of the news, but it is not that prominent and if I wasn't looking for it, I would not have noticed it with all the other clutter on the intro page.


yea I didn't open my client to check but so far and judging by the player area this seems to be a half assed event but it's more than likely a logistics run for mlg, kind of like when they introduced sc2 in the middle of the season in columbus last year i believe.
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