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Patch 5.21: Live on Nov. 11th, 2015
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Noticed that a bunch of abilities were changed to enter cooldown on buff expiration, not on cast. I guess they want to preemptively nerf CDR on those champions
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Still mildly disappointed they went with the whole 'all-in' thing for Trist. Always thought the sieging and long-range play were the more fun parts of her, not the suicidal rocket jump. Meh.
Interesting that Grievous Wounds no longer affects getting healed by Soraka/Sona/etc.
Didn't notice Rift Herald's buff only applied to the one who killed it. I guess giving it to everyone would've been kind of crazy. Certainly sounded crazy. It's hard to see that and the TP change pushing TP out more than occasionally, but who knows. I'd love to actually fight people...
I'm glad Zephyr's dead. Good riddance.
AD itemization's interesting. They added choice mostly through utility and unique passives. Kind of makes a lot of sense in hindsight. Notably you can buy different early items for health or armor stacking, with BotRK (and math) making ASPD carries better against health stacking than Crit carries and vice versa. They've alleviated some BS with crit too. Feels a lot shittier to get hit with the 1 in 7 crit of old Zeal than the 1 in 5 of new Zeal, and Avarice is dead now.
With Stealth Wards gone, I wonder how likely it is that we'll see the upgraded Targon Sightstone around midgame on certain tops.
20% tenacity? That's... why, Riot.
Maw looks slightly better, I guess? Probably about matches the old values with the pen, if I were guessing, only it's probably slightly more attractive to ADCs. I have no idea why the fuck they thought it was 'never an efficient combination of stats.
RIP one in seven Zed/Talon crits.
Tiamat losing the cleave is mildly infuriating. Not a clue why they'd put Black Cleaver so close to its old awkward stat values, but ok.
RIP one in ten Tforce crits.
Looking at just how many AD items got split into new components, they basically fundamentally separated ADC itemization from general items from ADC items. Thankfully doesn't look as bloated as I thought it would.
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Hell, it's about time.
Really looking forward to this season. Everything is bright and new and Riot isn't doing a massive jungle rehaul that they will make suck 2 months down the line!
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I like most changes, except the minion changes. +90% damage while you are ahead? So you just have to keep them busy and your lanes push in really fast?
Also, did someone look at the ancient coin wording? it says
"FAVOR GOLD GENERATION 3 gold when a nearby enemy minion dies ⇒ 4 gold when a nearby minion dies"
Does that mean, it gives you gold when friendly minions die or did they just forget the enemy? Because it says enemy on the upgrades
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+90% damage when you're 3 levels ahead and you've killed two turrets in the lane. Three average levels is an enormous advantage.
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MINION DAMAGE BONUS If your team's average level is higher than the enemy's, your minions deal 10% bonus damage to enemy minions. If you've taken cumulatively more turrets than the enemy team, damage is further increased by 10% for each turret you have over your opponents.
You don't need a massive lead to get free wave pushes.
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On November 11 2015 06:35 Vallelol wrote:
I like most changes, except the minion changes. +90% damage while you are ahead? So you just have to keep them busy and your lanes push in really fast?
Also, did someone look at the ancient coin wording? it says
"FAVOR GOLD GENERATION 3 gold when a nearby enemy minion dies ⇒ 4 gold when a nearby minion dies"
Does that mean, it gives you gold when friendly minions die or did they just forget the enemy? Because it says enemy on the upgrades
Common sense tells me that is a typo.
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Wait wtf... they took cleave off of Tiamat? I like a lot of the less contrived changes, but why?
No one will ever build it ever.
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On November 11 2015 08:26 iCanada wrote:
Wait wtf... they took cleave off of Tiamat? I like a lot of the less contrived changes, but why?
No one will ever build it ever.
Because it costs 1200g now.
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Titanic and Ravenous still have the cleave. It's now 1200 instead of 1900 as well. It's just... that's a long time for wave clear for a number of champs. Notably Panth.
This really reminds me how badly Panth needs any attention at all. And not fucking Jungle Panth either.
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Is that the passive or the active? Or both? If it still has active it's nbd, if not its huge nerf.
Notes are vague.
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Should help against involuntary pushing for champs that wanna get hydra first though.
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i'm a little bit unsure of how these minion scaling changes will work out
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On November 11 2015 09:25 Osmoses wrote:
Should help against involuntary pushing for champs that wanna get hydra first though.
Yeah, if it is just passive on hit cleave you could argue it's a buff on most champs that buy it.
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Elise has Talisman as recommended but Machete is way better
Graves jungle speed is actually decent
got 2:57 doing unleashed golem->red->blue
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I wonder if new level 1 base AD from ADC's will make last hitting easier under turret before pickaxe/bf sword.
Also, soraka sounds a lot more op'd now with grevious wound change.
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yo Neo it still says patch 5.21 in your OP
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