EPT[Patch 5.22] What is Marksman Gameplay Discussion - Page 2
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Maluk
France987 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I have to admit that they look good. Also I was very sceptic if it comes to so many changes but after playing a couple of games I've changed my mind. New itemization, new meta, ADC buffs are awesome. I just have no idea which potions/items to start on certain champions, especially on Hecarim. I just start LS/3 pots... Also Death's Dance looks good on paper, gotta play more games to have some opinion on it. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
I've been seeing a bunch of people build the new Guinsoo's. I'm not quite sure whether I like it or not, but it doesn't seem too weak to me. Just wondering if there are better options. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
So much for meaningful choices in AD itemization  | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Celial
2602 Posts
Correction: With pots instead of flask Jax manages full clear at full hp period. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On November 12 2015 14:16 Slusher wrote: Lustboy was recommending doing a pitstop zeal with the crit lifesteal mastery for your early game lifesteal needs then delaying an actual lifesteal item till much later, I tried it in my MF game it felt aiight. BF->primary AS/Crit item->Finish IE seems a lot stronger on ADC's (that aren't ashe who did this last season too) just due to the lower AS scaling and the free lifesteal in general. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 12 2015 14:56 TheHumanSensation wrote: It's probably not good for anything, but I tested and found out that Shiv + the new single target Shiv work together, so when you have 100 stacks you have extended range lightning + bonus single target damage. Didn't feel like the stacks came twice as fast though, so it's minimal synergy. Can you buy that item on melee champs? I think that's be pretty good on volibear. The range would be godlike with flip, the as scales well with his ult as well. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35139 Posts
On November 12 2015 14:56 TheHumanSensation wrote: It's probably not good for anything, but I tested and found out that Shiv + the new single target Shiv work together, so when you have 100 stacks you have extended range lightning + bonus single target damage. Didn't feel like the stacks came twice as fast though, so it's minimal synergy. Yeah, all the Energized buffs stack. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Because your Q and E both proc your passive you can do a lot of damage really really fast with it, as well as juggle/time it so that your W AS buff is basically permanent. Because your ult still does damage you basically just keep it up all the time when you're 5 with your team, then pop it right as you do something interesting. Mainly it lets you catch waves and then return to your team. So as opposed to a dedicated split it simply lets you go defend a split and then return to your team. I feel like you can go 1/2 offensive -> tank pretty decently. Not sure about primary AD. Maybe? I tested the passive and it looks to be 2.93 second CD at 100% crit, so that isn't that great compared to just hitting harder with more AD/generating more with CDR and more Q's. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 12 2015 14:12 Zess wrote: Played a few games and the nerfed attack speed across the board means that BotRK is pretty much mandatory as the lifesteal item for AA based ADCs if you can't just chunk dudes with AD spell dmg. So much for meaningful choices in AD itemization You lose 5% AS on Shiv, 10% on Rapidfire Cannon (compareed to old Shiv) and PD, and you gain 5% on Greaves. So you usually lose 5% at most compared to before? Cait loses some base AS iirc and Graves' a special case, if you were thinking about them, but I don't see much of a difference for others (if anything, you get better dps because you get more crit). On November 12 2015 14:53 Goumindong wrote: BF->primary AS/Crit item->Finish IE seems a lot stronger on ADC's (that aren't ashe who did this last season too) just due to the lower AS scaling and the free lifesteal in general. Ashe's autos don't autocrit anymore. Damage calculation is the same but it's the buff for hitting frosted target, not a crit. Crits use her normal crit% and simply apply a stronger slow now. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Maluk
France987 Posts
Also, as a Miss Fortune player, her buff is absolutely huge. I feel like she will get nerfed soon because they took a champion that was already fine for SoloQ purposes and pretty much increased her overall damage by 50%. ADCs overall are probably way too strong this patch. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35139 Posts
On November 12 2015 21:39 M2 wrote: So as a jungler now if you want to pick blue/red smite you either have to buy sightstone or sacrifice oracle if you want to be able to ward. is this correct? Yup. As a note: AP Lucian W hurts like fuck. | ||
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