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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 27 2015 14:18 GMT
#401
It's gonna be hard to show her LCS while Phreak is casting if she's struggling with Vlad.
Also you should try jungling Singed. Sure it's less effective than Volibear but he's the better flipper by far.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 14:19 GMT
#402
On August 27 2015 23:18 Alaric wrote:
It's gonna be hard to show her LCS while Phreak is casting if she's struggling with Vlad.
Also you should try jungling Singed. Sure it's less effective than Volibear but he's the better flipper by far.

Next time I play top I'll Singed. She's less amused by laning because running in circles isn't as exciting as exploring the jungle and ganking people.

For that matter, I enjoy jungling for the same reasons.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 14:19 GMT
#403
On August 27 2015 23:18 Ketara wrote:
She didn't like Hecarim because you don't have Arcade Hecarim.

She did look at the skin and said it was the best one, but I don't want to buy RP right now.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 27 2015 14:19 GMT
#404
You should jungle Sejuani anyway, she's the real jungler.

Alternatively, Zac. Bitches love Zac.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 14:20 GMT
#405
On August 27 2015 23:19 Ketara wrote:
You should jungle Sejuani anyway, she's the real jungler.

Alternatively, Zac. Bitches love Zac.

Tried that

"Who are you"
"I'm Zac! I'm made of goo"
"These sound effects are disgusting why are you doing this"
"Well, it's fun!"
"JUMP ON THAT PERSON'S FACE"

It went ok.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 27 2015 14:21 GMT
#406
I think we need a thread of Otters champion reactions.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 27 2015 14:22 GMT
#407
On August 27 2015 23:19 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:18 Alaric wrote:
It's gonna be hard to show her LCS while Phreak is casting if she's struggling with Vlad.
Also you should try jungling Singed. Sure it's less effective than Volibear but he's the better flipper by far.

For that matter, I enjoy jungling for the same reasons.

All I read is that you're a pussy laner.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 14:25 GMT
#408
On August 27 2015 23:22 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:19 Requizen wrote:
On August 27 2015 23:18 Alaric wrote:
It's gonna be hard to show her LCS while Phreak is casting if she's struggling with Vlad.
Also you should try jungling Singed. Sure it's less effective than Volibear but he's the better flipper by far.

For that matter, I enjoy jungling for the same reasons.

All I read is that you're a pussy laner.

I really am. I'm crap at playing squishy champions so I end up playing tanky things and just running around slap fighting people until mid/late. Also leads to me being bad at carrying from lane :\
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 14:29:02
August 27 2015 14:28 GMT
#409
Somebody playing on NA show him how to turn even Maokai or Malphite into a trainfreight of pain from level 3.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 27 2015 15:05 GMT
#410
I tried playing Heca jungle once. Squishy as shit. Team got all mad my ganks ended up feeding the enemy laners.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 15:10 GMT
#411
On August 28 2015 00:05 Osmoses wrote:
I tried playing Heca jungle once. Squishy as shit. Team got all mad my ganks ended up feeding the enemy laners.

Yeah totes. He's one of those characters who is really sick good when he gets huge but is pretty underwhelming otherwise in my experience. Probably could get better at him and get better results... but eh. Bear.
It's your boy Guzma!
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
August 27 2015 15:19 GMT
#412
On August 27 2015 23:28 Alaric wrote:
Somebody playing on NA show him how to turn even Maokai or Malphite into a trainfreight of pain from level 3.

I know just the perfect CN top lane sub for this...
xd
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 27 2015 15:20 GMT
#413
On August 27 2015 23:03 Requizen wrote:
Perspective of someone coming back who's still bad at the game:

Played a bunch of different junglers last night. Hec didn't really work, Rammus did alright but couldn't solo carry bads, Diana was great except I think I need to go defensive runes/masteries because I kept blowing up as soon as team fights started, even with Zhonya's.

You know who carried like a champ? Volibear. Like, dang. I know who my new main is.

what problems did you have on hecarim?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 15:28 GMT
#414
On August 28 2015 00:20 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:03 Requizen wrote:
Perspective of someone coming back who's still bad at the game:

Played a bunch of different junglers last night. Hec didn't really work, Rammus did alright but couldn't solo carry bads, Diana was great except I think I need to go defensive runes/masteries because I kept blowing up as soon as team fights started, even with Zhonya's.

You know who carried like a champ? Volibear. Like, dang. I know who my new main is.

what problems did you have on hecarim?

Just general dying too easily. Even with W up in fights I would explode.

Then again, maybe it was how I set up. Went Offensive Masteries and Chilling Smite/Runeglaive instead of Trailblazer/Cinder. Though, in the past, I often felt that if you went too tanky early on you had no effect on the game other than your (admittedly mediocre) ult.
It's your boy Guzma!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 27 2015 15:35 GMT
#415
On August 28 2015 00:28 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 00:20 Frolossus wrote:
On August 27 2015 23:03 Requizen wrote:
Perspective of someone coming back who's still bad at the game:

Played a bunch of different junglers last night. Hec didn't really work, Rammus did alright but couldn't solo carry bads, Diana was great except I think I need to go defensive runes/masteries because I kept blowing up as soon as team fights started, even with Zhonya's.

You know who carried like a champ? Volibear. Like, dang. I know who my new main is.

what problems did you have on hecarim?

Just general dying too easily. Even with W up in fights I would explode.

Then again, maybe it was how I set up. Went Offensive Masteries and Chilling Smite/Runeglaive instead of Trailblazer/Cinder. Though, in the past, I often felt that if you went too tanky early on you had no effect on the game other than your (admittedly mediocre) ult.

you could go giants belt immediately after warrior if you're really struggling but you should be fine just rushing triforce.
spend your time farming and play cleanup crew. try to enter fights with ghost + e and use ult to follow up after someone flashes.
if you come in late you don't take as much damage.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 27 2015 15:37 GMT
#416
On August 28 2015 00:35 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 00:28 Requizen wrote:
On August 28 2015 00:20 Frolossus wrote:
On August 27 2015 23:03 Requizen wrote:
Perspective of someone coming back who's still bad at the game:

Played a bunch of different junglers last night. Hec didn't really work, Rammus did alright but couldn't solo carry bads, Diana was great except I think I need to go defensive runes/masteries because I kept blowing up as soon as team fights started, even with Zhonya's.

You know who carried like a champ? Volibear. Like, dang. I know who my new main is.

what problems did you have on hecarim?

Just general dying too easily. Even with W up in fights I would explode.

Then again, maybe it was how I set up. Went Offensive Masteries and Chilling Smite/Runeglaive instead of Trailblazer/Cinder. Though, in the past, I often felt that if you went too tanky early on you had no effect on the game other than your (admittedly mediocre) ult.

you could go giants belt immediately after warrior if you're really struggling but you should be fine just rushing triforce.
spend your time farming and play cleanup crew. try to enter fights with ghost + e and use ult to follow up after someone flashes.
if you come in late you don't take as much damage.

Why Warrior? I understand better AD scaling and CDR is great on him, but if I want damage don't you think Runeglaive is better with the Q spamming?
It's your boy Guzma!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 27 2015 15:41 GMT
#417
On August 28 2015 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 00:35 Frolossus wrote:
On August 28 2015 00:28 Requizen wrote:
On August 28 2015 00:20 Frolossus wrote:
On August 27 2015 23:03 Requizen wrote:
Perspective of someone coming back who's still bad at the game:

Played a bunch of different junglers last night. Hec didn't really work, Rammus did alright but couldn't solo carry bads, Diana was great except I think I need to go defensive runes/masteries because I kept blowing up as soon as team fights started, even with Zhonya's.

You know who carried like a champ? Volibear. Like, dang. I know who my new main is.

what problems did you have on hecarim?

Just general dying too easily. Even with W up in fights I would explode.

Then again, maybe it was how I set up. Went Offensive Masteries and Chilling Smite/Runeglaive instead of Trailblazer/Cinder. Though, in the past, I often felt that if you went too tanky early on you had no effect on the game other than your (admittedly mediocre) ult.

you could go giants belt immediately after warrior if you're really struggling but you should be fine just rushing triforce.
spend your time farming and play cleanup crew. try to enter fights with ghost + e and use ult to follow up after someone flashes.
if you come in late you don't take as much damage.

Why Warrior? I understand better AD scaling and CDR is great on him, but if I want damage don't you think Runeglaive is better with the Q spamming?

you want it for cdr and armor pen. also if you intend to build triforce which is probably his best damage item you can't get runeglaive
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 27 2015 15:47 GMT
#418
Plus you tend to run ArPen runes (iirc ArPen+MS quints is the basic set of runes for jungle Hecarim), so with Warrior on top if makes your spellblade effects from Sheen/Triforce hurt, while Runeglaive is magical damage so it's not nearly as much.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 27 2015 15:47 GMT
#419
The old Heca top used to go cinderhulk into triforce. Is that not viable in the jungle?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 18:09:26
August 27 2015 18:07 GMT
#420
On August 27 2015 23:07 Complete wrote:
3 questions

1) How does tower kill gold distribution work? Do you need to be near the tower? Does it differ between outer/inner/base towers?

2) Does GP ult cross map give experience to things he kills if he's not in experience range?

3) Does Fiora need vision to do damage from Q? i.e. she Q's right next to a bush someone is standing in but she doesn't have vision in it, does it do damage?


1) there is a base amount: 100 gold/person that you get always. There is a bonus amount 250 gold that is split between all members in range of the tower when it falls. If you watch LCS when they fast push they will retreat the other members to give the one person they want to have an advantage solo gold.

2) I believe so, yes. As it is with any ability. If you like nid spear then flash away and the nid spear hits way out of xp range you still get the xp.

3) not a clue but I suspect yes. There are very few collision skill shot or dashes that do not do damage to things you can't see. I can only think of non-targeted abilities that work like that
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